Amulet of mighty fist and shielded gauntlet master interaction


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How do the two interact? Shielded gauntlet master gives an AC shield enhancement bonus equal to your gauntlet enhancement bonus, which is considered an unarmed attack. amulet of mighty fist gives an enhancement bonus to your unarmed attacks- so does a +5 amulet give a +5 AC shield bonus to someone with shielded gauntlet style for a total of +6? Furthermore would the gauntlet receive any other bonuses that the amulet might have such as furious which would bump the AC bonus even more if I happen to be raging? Does this work and if it does, is it worth it?

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Kinda hard to follow your logic without looking everything up. Please show rules and break it down.


Your main hurdle is, a gauntlet is a weapon. A weapon that allows you to do lethal damage equivalent to what your unarmed strikes do and that provokes, but still a distinct and separate weapon. AoMF wouldn't work on it. It would be a case of either or, a choice between making an attack with a "pure" unarmed strike (which then uses the AoMF) or using the gauntlet (which would then use the weapon enchantment, if any, and gain the style feat benefits).


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Skylancer4 wrote:
Your main hurdle is, a gauntlet is a weapon. A weapon that allows you to do lethal damage equivalent to what your unarmed strikes do and that provokes, but still a distinct and separate weapon. AoMF wouldn't work on it. It would be a case of either or, a choice between making an attack with a "pure" unarmed strike (which then uses the AoMF) or using the gauntlet (which would then use the weapon enchantment, if any, and gain the style feat benefits).

Nope.

Protoman's post sums it up very well. Gauntlets are not a weapon, they just provide a means of lethal damage with unarmed strikes.

AoMF specifically does work on them.

(Note: I will personally still allow them to be enchanted in home games, as I believe they should be weapons, but this is a rules forum.)


Sangerine wrote:
Skylancer4 wrote:
Your main hurdle is, a gauntlet is a weapon. A weapon that allows you to do lethal damage equivalent to what your unarmed strikes do and that provokes, but still a distinct and separate weapon. AoMF wouldn't work on it. It would be a case of either or, a choice between making an attack with a "pure" unarmed strike (which then uses the AoMF) or using the gauntlet (which would then use the weapon enchantment, if any, and gain the style feat benefits).

Nope.

Protoman's post sums it up very well. Gauntlets are not a weapon, they just provide a means of lethal damage with unarmed strikes.

AoMF specifically does work on them.

(Note: I will personally still allow them to be enchanted in home games, as I believe they should be weapons, but this is a rules forum.)

Well then, that is get for not being active on the forums for the last several months!

Kind of odd way to handle it I guess. Though that they haven't officially ruled it that way via FAQ is a bit odd if that is supposed to be the case, they may be reconsidering as even their "soon" isn't usually 5 months down the line.


Such a thing still needs to get clarified by a (hopefully soon) upcoming FAQ.


Protoman wrote:
Such a thing still needs to get clarified by a (hopefully soon) upcoming FAQ.

About the only other thing that took that long once it was announced was the damage dice progression. And that was more a, 'how the F do we make all the tables jive." This isn't nearly as complicated, so the amount of time is a bit odd.

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