Petition: Raise Animal Companion as Prestige Award


Pathfinder Society

Scarab Sages

The official Pathfinder Society guide (now quite dated in other ways, too) doesn't include a generic Prestige award that it really should include: raise animal companion. Can we please get some official errata for this, and how much should it cost?

Silver Crusade 5/5 5/5 **

While I'd like this added its no huge deal. The cash cost of buying a spell casting service is fairly low anyway.

Scarab Sages

The same could be said of most of the generic Prestige awards - nonetheless, they're on the list as options. This one's in the same vein, and needing a companion raised is a much more common situation than, for example, being struck blind or deaf (which I've never seen inflicted on PCs even once in all my years in Pathfinder Society).

4/5 ****

I vote no.

Raise animal companion is not a core spell so the text would need to be repeated which would take up more space.

Lets not bloat the guide with extra options because they would be nice.

Grand Lodge 2/5 *

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

This exact thread happened a few weeks ago (I should know, I started it); it's probably too soon to repeat it all.

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Pirate Rob wrote:

I vote no.

Raise animal companion is not a core spell so the text would need to be repeated which would take up more space.

Lets not bloat the guide with extra options because they would be nice.

The guide is rarely printed. As a PDF does anyone even care what the page count is?

Personally I was in favor of this 2 weeks ago and remain in favor of this now.

Scarab Sages

Pirate Rob wrote:

Raise animal companion is not a core spell so the text would need to be repeated which would take up more space.

Not necessarily - you'll notice that a lot of the new books (Occult Adventures as one outstanding example) reference boatloads of non-core material without reprinting it all.

Pirate Rob wrote:

Lets not bloat the guide with extra options because they would be nice.

It isn't just "nice." Being able to spend Prestige to get true seeing on demand would "be nice." This makes sense, and is totally in the same vein as existing generic Prestige awards.

Grand Lodge 4/5 **** Venture-Captain, California—Sacramento

Jessex wrote:
Pirate Rob wrote:

I vote no.

Raise animal companion is not a core spell so the text would need to be repeated which would take up more space.

Lets not bloat the guide with extra options because they would be nice.

The guide is rarely printed. As a PDF does anyone even care what the page count is?

Personally I was in favor of this 2 weeks ago and remain in favor of this now.

Yes. Because people keep complaining that it is too long to read it all, so they don't read any of it.

Scarab Sages

Jared Thaler wrote:

Yes. Because people keep complaining that it is too long to read it all, so they don't read any of it.

Admittedly, some of it is gratuitous "toddler-proofing" telling players not to bully or cheat. Tabletop RPGs have never been meant for the LCD, they shouldn't have to put that in there, should they?

The Exchange 5/5

I'm Hiding In Your Closet wrote:
Pirate Rob wrote:

Raise animal companion is not a core spell so the text would need to be repeated which would take up more space.

Not necessarily - you'll notice that a lot of the new books (Occult Adventures as one outstanding example) reference boatloads of non-core material without reprinting it all.

Paizo rarely worries about PFS campaign rules when publishing Pathfinder books.

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I'm Hiding In Your Closet wrote:
Pirate Rob wrote:

Raise animal companion is not a core spell so the text would need to be repeated which would take up more space.

Not necessarily - you'll notice that a lot of the new books (Occult Adventures as one outstanding example) reference boatloads of non-core material without reprinting it all.

I'm not sure what that has to do with OP guide bloat.

Scarab Sages

A) It makes the case that new options can be added without any "bloat" beyond a superscript citation of the book it's in.

B) I was, admittedly, thinking of this (which desperately needs a new edition anyway).

Scarab Sages

Most tables have access to Ultimate Magic, or its contents online. The fact that not 100% of everybody will be able to access it is no reason not to make it an option for the vast majority.

I can't understand why you're so adamantly opposed. Saying "we shouldn't make it an option because CORE can't use it" is tantamount to saying "we shouldn't allow ANY non-core material."

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AFAIK you can always free/dismiss and find a new companion or replace a companion with a 24h prayer ritual.

So this question is about a char being attached to his companion that much that he would want to raise this specific one?

Grand Lodge 4/5 **** Venture-Captain, California—Sacramento

Bustler wrote:

AFAIK you can always free/dismiss and find a new companion or replace a companion with a 24h prayer ritual.

So this question is about a char being attached to his companion that much that he would want to raise this specific one?

There are some unique named familiars on chronicles, where if the familiar dies, it is just gone, you can't replace it.

The Exchange 4/5 5/5

Bustler wrote:

AFAIK you can always free/dismiss and find a new companion or replace a companion with a 24h prayer ritual.

So this question is about a char being attached to his companion that much that he would want to raise this specific one?

1. Yes, partly. I would much rather pay to raise my friend than to recruit a new one.

2. A new companion does not have all the tricks known that the old one did. Some classes (like cavaliers) have even more penalties to the new animal for a time.
3. The spell also works on familiars. Which have significant costs associated with recruiting a new one. Having to recruit a new familiar is horrendous for a witch.

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I don't think you need the text of the spell in the guide. Just a line that says (must own book XYZ to use.)

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