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Rysky wrote:The Raven Black wrote:Mmm. No Golarion means no Drows, right ?Worse.
Dark Tapestry Drow!
Space drow! Who dual-wield light-scimitars and are good!
Is dragged off by IP lawyers
A half-orc looking being of pure energy bursts from the sun and rockets towards Quibblemuch at the last moment, fending off the space lawyers

Drahliana Moonrunner |
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Rysky wrote:In space, no one can hear you litigate...quibblemuch wrote:Is dragged off by IP lawyersA half-orc looking being of pure energy bursts from the sun and rockets towards Quibblemuch at the last moment, fending off the space lawyers
But you get served at the speed of light.

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Mmm. No Golarion means no Drows, right ?
By the same logic, no Golarion means no humans. Snd we know it's not the case.
Edit: also would mean no hslflings, gnomes or dwsrves. And we know they are there, so there's no particular reason for drows not being there. They could have survived the same ways the others did: being in the space or in Absalom Station when Golarion puffed out of the reality

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Kalindlara wrote:In addition, drow are not exclusive to Golarion - there are drow from other worlds in one of the Adventure Paths. ^_^Which ap where?
There's also a drider in Book 6, but her exact origin isn't clear.

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The Raven Black wrote:Humans exist on Earth too ;-)It's not exactly in the neighborhood. And the only means of access is pretty jealously guarded and kept secret.
Ah, but that was a LONG time ago. Who knows what might have happened in the meantime.
Maybe Earth humans already witnessed the end of the solar system and are now on New Earth ;-)

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IonutRO wrote:How will you handle the fact that Ysoki come from a world with much lower gravity than Golarion/Absalom Station?Yet ratfolk have adjusted to Golarion perfectly. :)
So ratfolk are either elves and magically adapt super fast or they're Supermice and their PF stats are only 1/3 of their true strength and speed.
High Gravity: On high-gravity worlds, characters are literally crushed to the planet’s surface by their increased weight, and their physical abilities are affected accordingly. For example, on Aucturn, where the gravity is twice as strong as on Golarion, a character weighs twice as much as he does on Golarion, but has only the same amount of strength. Such characters move at half speed, can only jump half as high or as far, and can only lift half as much. Their projectiles (though not those of natives) have their ranges cut in half as they fall to earth more rapidly. Personal effects (modifications to running, jumping, lifting, etc.) can be negated by spells such as freedom of movement, but projectiles remain affected. Characters who remain in a high-gravity environment for long periods often become fatigued.
^ Replace Golarion with Akiton, Aucturn with Golarion, twice with thrice, and half with third.

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Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:IonutRO wrote:How will you handle the fact that Ysoki come from a world with much lower gravity than Golarion/Absalom Station?Yet ratfolk have adjusted to Golarion perfectly. :)So ratfolk are either elves and magically adapt super fast or they're Supermice and their PF stats are only 1/3 of their true strength and speed.
James L. Sutter in Distant Worlds wrote:High Gravity: On high-gravity worlds, characters are literally crushed to the planet’s surface by their increased weight, and their physical abilities are affected accordingly. For example, on Aucturn, where the gravity is twice as strong as on Golarion, a character weighs twice as much as he does on Golarion, but has only the same amount of strength. Such characters move at half speed, can only jump half as high or as far, and can only lift half as much. Their projectiles (though not those of natives) have their ranges cut in half as they fall to earth more rapidly. Personal effects (modifications to running, jumping, lifting, etc.) can be negated by spells such as freedom of movement, but projectiles remain affected. Characters who remain in a high-gravity environment for long periods often become fatigued.^ Replace Golarion with Akiton, Aucturn with Golarion, twice with thrice, and half with third.
I don't think that replacement is valid, though. It's not a transitive property. Stats are presented in Golorian-standard gravity. So the Ysoki have been living in low gravity, and find they can no longer jump as high or carry as much. You might have a lower Strength score if you grew up in low-gravity, but that's about it.
Low-gravity areas, such as those in which the effects of multiple graviton-based artifacts interact in unpredictable ways, are PC playgrounds, in which characters' relatively hyper-developed muscles are far more effective than normal.
In an area with only a third of standard gravity, for example, PCs can jump three times as high and as far and lift three times as much. (Movement speed, however, stays the same, as moving in great bounds can be awkward and difficult to control.) Projectiles have their range categories tripled.

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IonutRO wrote:How will you handle the fact that Ysoki come from a world with much lower gravity than Golarion/Absalom Station?Yet ratfolk have adjusted to Golarion perfectly. :)
I wonder whether adapting easily to different gravity levels might be a racial ability of ratfolk in Starfinder?

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Yes, it's simply because elves cause cancer. They have leprosy as well.
How much proof do you need?

IonutRO |

IonutRO wrote:Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:IonutRO wrote:How will you handle the fact that Ysoki come from a world with much lower gravity than Golarion/Absalom Station?Yet ratfolk have adjusted to Golarion perfectly. :)So ratfolk are either elves and magically adapt super fast or they're Supermice and their PF stats are only 1/3 of their true strength and speed.
James L. Sutter in Distant Worlds wrote:High Gravity: On high-gravity worlds, characters are literally crushed to the planet’s surface by their increased weight, and their physical abilities are affected accordingly. For example, on Aucturn, where the gravity is twice as strong as on Golarion, a character weighs twice as much as he does on Golarion, but has only the same amount of strength. Such characters move at half speed, can only jump half as high or as far, and can only lift half as much. Their projectiles (though not those of natives) have their ranges cut in half as they fall to earth more rapidly. Personal effects (modifications to running, jumping, lifting, etc.) can be negated by spells such as freedom of movement, but projectiles remain affected. Characters who remain in a high-gravity environment for long periods often become fatigued.^ Replace Golarion with Akiton, Aucturn with Golarion, twice with thrice, and half with third.I don't think that replacement is valid, though. It's not a transitive property. Stats are presented in Golorian-standard gravity. So the Ysoki have been living in low gravity, and find they can no longer jump as high or carry as much. You might have a lower Strength score if you grew up in low-gravity, but that's about it.
Low Gravity wrote:...Low-gravity areas, such as those in which the effects of multiple graviton-based artifacts interact in unpredictable ways, are PC playgrounds, in which characters' relatively hyper-developed muscles are far more effective than normal.
In an area with only a third of standard gravity, for example,
That's not how gravity works.

Drahliana Moonrunner |

UnArcaneElection wrote:Maybe it's missing for the same reason!^And this reminds me: What happens to Earth in Starfinder time??
It's not like it's really known to anyone outside of a certain group of adventurers. It seems to be located very very far away even in terms of star travel.

IonutRO |

IonutRO wrote:That's not how gravity works.I think you are confusing rules for reality. Gravity is not transitive.
I think you are confused about how gravity affects jumping and mass.
How high/far you can jump on another planet is equal to h/x where h is how high you can jump on your planet and x is how much of your planet's gravity the other planet has. For someone that can jump 4 feet high on Golarion who tries to jump on Akiton this would be 4/1/3, which is 4*3, because Akiton has a gravity one third that of Golarion.
The effect is reversed with mass. On Akiton things would weigh m*x (where m is their mass on Golarion) their normal weight, so a 100 lbs object from Golarion would weigh 30 lbs on Akiton. Because things weigh 1/3 as much on Akiton but your muscle fibers are just as strong as they ever were, if you were to go to Akiton you'd effectively be able to lift 3 times able much as normal, because to you everything is three times as light as on Golarion.
http://coolcosmos.ipac.caltech.edu/ask/73-How-strong-is-the-gravity-on-Mars -
https://museumvictoria.com.au/media/1870/how-high-can-you-jump-on-other-pla nets.pdf

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Yes, it's simply because elves cause cancer. They have leprosy as well.
How much proof do you need?
OMG, that was made 10 years ago. I feel old.

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So here's my take on this.
[silliness]
Elves are actually FROM the time/universe of starfinder, and got tired of all the goodness-knows-what that was coming from the Guild Of Players And Starfinders Of The Galaxy Inc. Co. Corp. LLC. TM ® ©, as they are genetically modified humans who have extreme life-extension tech and magic. They were also very full of themselves, and thought themselves superior to normal humans for being genetically modified. So what they decided to do as a species is time travel back in time to medieval-ey times, with Golarion still around, and place themselves as superior to humans during this era to give themselves an even bigger distinct advantage in the current time. The reason that they didn't know that they were ALREADY part of the human's history was that all of golarion's history of elves got erased with golarion, and what little remained everyone assumed was referring to the drow. Thus, most elves left the time of starfinder and created their own little paradox in that all elves, if their ancestry is traced back far enough, just leads back to themselves, and they have also trapped themselves way back in time.
[/silliness]
So yeah. Paradox. Fun stuff.

Matthew Shelton |

Speaking for myself, I would love to see Samarasans fleshed out.
It's not a big detail, but one thing I did for them was house rule that no other race ever reincarnates (even magically) as a Samsaran, AND Samsarans never reincarnate as anything but another Samsaran (even magically).

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KahnyaGnorc wrote:The Starfinder drow are an imperial race, militaristic and expansionist. As opposed to the pacifist and logical Starfinder elves.And they like to wear goatees and colored sashes over their shoulder that double as towels.
Is that a Star Trek / HHGTTG cross-over ?