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And realizing it's almost a Starfinder AP In and of itself.
If you think about Destiny as the connecting glue, you have both the adventure of exploring the Destiny of itself with the various stops on worlds as 'rooms' in a mega dungeon.
Kind of like Reign of Winter... in space.
I was so disappointed when that series was discontinued. :(
What is SGU? :-)
Stargate Universe
Hmmm.... *Starts devious plotting.*
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I loved watching SG way back when. It was my first scifi procedural(discounting Frisco County, but I digress). I recently tried to get back to it since I have a ton of free time, but damn: I can't stomach more than an hour of "McGyver in Space featuring the Monster of the Week" before disintegrating!
I miss Sg-1 terribly.
We all do, my friend, we all do.
I miss Sg-1 terribly.
This shows you have good taste.
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BattleStargate Universe was pretty good. The first few episodes, anyway.
What started with an amazing premise and art direction, loaded with possibilities, soon got really repetitive, really fast.
Oh look, the Mad Scientist who thinks he's better than everyone else and has betrayed people repeatedly wants us to trust him. Maybe things will be different this time? I mean, he wouldn't do that five times in a row, right?
Oh, those military people? They must be bad, you can't trust them to lead. It's not like they have an organized structure where people know what to do and who to listen to. Let's us, as a group of random, unaffiliated civilians, convince others that we should be in charge even though we have no plans and will begin turning on each other at a moments notice. We'll screw things up for awhile, the military guys will un-screw it, then we'll start this process again.
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It IS much like a Pathfinder AP, though, I'll give you that. I think you have that backwards in that it would serve as a great inspiration for a campaign IN Starfinder. What with the stellar exploration, this can be a way to do it. Don't even have to bother with piloting ships and whatnot if the party doesn't want to.
At low levels, you explore this space-bound mega-dungeon. As you get higher in level, you can start exploring the worlds and places it stops by. As you go up, others start attacking or trying to board or whatnot, and then you have the 'reverse dungeon' where the bad guys are kicking down the doors to your home and you have to defend it. The best thing is, whatever part the party tends to like more you can throw back in there. The ship big enough? Well, they can never fully explore it, so at higher levels there can still be convenient dungeons on-board. They like the planetary exploration? Give them more of that. They want to start dealing with other spaceships, well, they can find the controls for the turrets or finally gain access to a ship's hangar, and BOOM, there you go.
Thanks for the idea. Totally going to do this. ;)
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Concur with Arturius' assessment.
SG-1 = far superior to SGU, but if I look at SGU as a group of random Pathfinder PCs at a convention doing a weird special it does make a strange sort of sense...
Random Player: What?! I know it's strangely inappropriate to somehow have a civilian military contractor who is somehow wholly unfamiliar with the way that military contractors work, but it's the only character I have in tier!
Other Player: Oh, man, sorry you spent all of that prestige on getting that political appointment for your character, rather than saving to be able to come back. We'd chip in to raise you, but this particular special only lets you come back if you have enough prestige banked to rewrite plot...
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Pft, Stargate in general (Movie, SG-1, SG:Atlantis, SGU) ALL fit well into a Pathfinder/Starfiner dynamic. It's all for the most part team-based. Each member of the team fills a particular niche/roll, each with their own skills and capabilities...
Why have I not run this before myself!?
*Starts writing down notes for future games*
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who owns the rights to the brand? any hope of a new series in the setting on the horizon?
I believe Emmerich (but not Devlin) is trying to do a Stargate movie sequel. The problem being now that the Stargate concept is now more tied to the tv series than it is to the Movie. So I don't think it will fly.
In terms of the series, there has been nothing. I think the later producers have moved on to the .. well ugly.. Dark Matter. Ive seen a few episodes and well.. Asian Sword Master? Yeah no more tropes for me.
I should also rephrase my original comment. I miss Seasons 1-7 of SG-1 Terribly, but not stuff after that. I missed O'Neil... but also the situations they got into. To me the Go'auld were always gonna be the top dog on the show and when Humanity got a little.. too powerful I started to not enjoy the show as much.
I miss Sg-1 terribly.This shows you have good taste.PLEASE TAKE THAT BACK!
I enjoy Lexx which proves I have NO Taste whatsoever.
I only enjoyed the latter parts of Lexx.
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I only enjoyed the latter parts of Lexx.I miss Sg-1 terribly.This shows you have good taste.PLEASE TAKE THAT BACK!
I enjoy Lexx which proves I have NO Taste whatsoever.
Its an acquired taste. At the time I was a student at university and when I returned home via bus late at night, I would see a totally random episode. (it even made me create an npc basically who was Kai).
I also didn't like Atlantis. I think they had a good thing when they went for a civilian administrator, and then someone along the line they decided they just couldn't do a show without Earth being at threat so gave up. The safety of Earth yes was a central premise in Sg-1, I just wish it hadn't become so in Atlantis. Some of the characters did feel like copies of Sg-1 . We had a sarcastic type in Sheppard (O'Neil), a smart scientist in Mckay (Carter) and a Teal'c type in Ronon Dex (and hell the showed played up on their similarities).
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I also didn't like Atlantis. I think they had a good thing when they went for a civilian administrator, and then someone along the line they decided they just couldn't do a show without Earth being at threat so gave up. The safety of Earth yes was a central premise in Sg-1, I just wish it hadn't become so in Atlantis. Some of the characters did feel like copies of Sg-1 . We had a sarcastic type in Sheppard (O'Neil), a smart scientist in Mckay (Carter) and a Teal'c type in Ronon Dex (and hell the showed played up on their similarities).
...as if Rodney McKay wasn't the high lord of sarcasm.
I mean, I get what you are saying, but Rodney did a really amazing job of distinguishing himself from the others. He's easily one of the best reasons to watch Atlantis.
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Hes certainly the one character people remember the most from Atlantis. Yes he was sarcastic as hell
personally for some strange reason I remember Lt Aiden Ford: A regular in season 1 who got little screen time, got turned into a strange hybrid wraith and well, made a few more appearances.
I guess I also like Sg-1 more because its adventure- action as opposed to Atlantis which is Action-Adventure. Just a subtle change in words but big difference to the shows.
I can see that. I appreciate both for what they are, though my family favors SG:A. I think the later seasons of SG-1 are my favorites... because Farscape was a great show.
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Its been years but didnt they do an episode or two with Dex and Teal'c pairing up? That could be an entertaining mini-series on its own...I only enjoyed the latter parts of Lexx.I miss Sg-1 terribly.This shows you have good taste.PLEASE TAKE THAT BACK!
I enjoy Lexx which proves I have NO Taste whatsoever.
Its an acquired taste. At the time I was a student at university and when I returned home via bus late at night, I would see a totally random episode. (it even made me create an npc basically who was Kai).
I also didn't like Atlantis. I think they had a good thing when they went for a civilian administrator, and then someone along the line they decided they just couldn't do a show without Earth being at threat so gave up. The safety of Earth yes was a central premise in Sg-1, I just wish it hadn't become so in Atlantis. Some of the characters did feel like copies of Sg-1 . We had a sarcastic type in Sheppard (O'Neil), a smart scientist in Mckay (Carter) and a Teal'c type in Ronon Dex (and hell the showed played up on their similarities).
Yeah and Teal'c wanted a gun like Dex's. Funny bit there.
Id love to play as Dr. Nicholas Rush.
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Id love to play as Dr. Nicholas Rush.
Many groups these days frown on PvP :D
I should also rephrase my original comment. I miss Seasons 1-7 of SG-1 Terribly, but not stuff after that. I missed O'Neil... but also the situations they got into. To me the Go'auld were always gonna be the top dog on the show and when Humanity got a little.. too powerful I started to not enjoy the show as much.
Yea, seasons 1-7 were the best. Don't get me wrong--I loved the whole series--but after season 7 it felt like Farscape SG-1. Heck, they should have just had Ben Browder BE John Crichton and Claudia Black BE Aeryn Sun and merged the two into one continuity. That would have been epic.
Heck, they should have just had Ben Browder BE John Crichton and Claudia Black BE Aeryn Sun and merged the two into one continuity. That would have been epic.
Someone, somewhere, already wrote that as a fanfiction.
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Yeah, and see I never liked Farscape. Which probably puts me in the minority here. I always thought Browder was an average actor and Claudia Black.. I can take her in small doses. Stargate was not at it's best when it was going for the funny plot, but when it accidentally had funny moments.
It was episodes like Window of Opportunity, and my personal all time 'The Fifth Race'. I much preferred it when Earth was under the heel, the SGC had to really scrimp to get the job done. Back when the Go'auld were a menace.
I didn't mind the Ori, and they definetly felt part of the setting and I liked how politics became part of the basically American held Stargate but later seasons with Teal'c and hair (and taking drugs so he didn't need a Symbiote) and Daniel becoming buff and ditching the glasses and just not being so Daniel like anymore.
Farscape was a great series... on its own.
Stargate SG-1 was an amazing series... on its own.
When the latter absorbed the former and became Fargate, that's when it went terribly downhill.
As soon as the main arc with the Goa'uld was finished, they should have ended the series. The silliness with the O'ri and all that extra nonsense could have been a completely different show in the Stargate multiverse.
It would even have been stronger as a 1-3 season series that focused on its own main plot arc. Babylon 5 proved that such a thing worked well if done from the outset, which is one reason Star Trek: Deep Space Nine aped it and turned out so well.
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Warhawk 7 mentioned, quite many days ago, that the Stargate series does well for conversions.
Not only the team aspect, but the Gate system itself works wonders for giving players new things to do. Since it can go potentially anywhere, but is always anchored at a 'home base', the DM can send their players on all sorts of adventures.
I admit, I cribbed it for my own games somewhat, where there are stone circles with Teleportation effects that allow heroes to move from one to the other if the know the combination of runes. Works great for skipping unnecessary travel back, and if they want to do something completely crazy, they can always enter random sequences until something works.
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There's a reason the "Tacked On" last season felt "tacked on".
Because it was.
The original show was supposed to be 5 seasons, but they were told around 4 that it wouldn't be.
So--they sped things up to complete the metaplot. About halfway through, they were told that they would, indeed, have a fifth season after all.
You know, after they had written in all the major plot points.
This sort of 'tacked on' feel happens the exact same way in SG-1 at the beginning of Season 9. The main metaplot of the series is complete, but they have to find 'newer', 'badder' bad guys and it turned into Fargate, SG-1 with the cast.
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Don't see why you couldn't use D20 Modern for a quick Stargete D20 game, honestly. You have all the 3rd Ed / Pathfinder / D20 Modern stuff to pull from for creatures and whatnot.
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Season 4 of B5 was my favorite. It felt like the perfect culmination of the previous seasons. Ivanova's speech at the Battle of Mars is my all-time favorite of the series, with Sheridan's speech to the Vorlons and Shadows (and other First Ones) a close second.
To be honest, the most heart-wrenching part in the whole series though was the very last episode of the series. I'll be honest... I cried.
Well, they already did a Stargate d20 game (using Spy Craft) which proves that yes, it does translate well.
So this is new to me, did anyone else know they are doing a Stargate reboot? i saw a thing about it just now, they want to do a reboot trilogy of movies mixing elements of the original film and SG-1.
Thoughts on how good it will be?
Thoughts on how fast we can turn it around into an AP?
As for the reboot, it might be good, but none of the elements we know will be there, which might make it feel like a bitter-sweet alternate universe if it is good as it will just make us miss the show.
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If they really want to get some of the SG-1 feel into it then there should be a hidden scene during the credits where the SG-1 team is sitting around talking about this new Team Wormhole Xtreme movie and how good it makes them look.
I've read the people who bought the rights (who did the movie) hate SG-1, Atlantis, etc as it didn't fit their original vision, so I expect no good references to those franchises.
There's a reason the "Tacked On" last season felt "tacked on".
Because it was.
The original show was supposed to be 5 seasons, but they were told around 4 that it wouldn't be.
So--they sped things up to complete the metaplot. About halfway through, they were told that they would, indeed, have a fifth season after all.
You know, after they had written in all the major plot points.
According to jms at the time, they only moved up the plot several episodes so that they could wrap with Sheridan as President. The season 5 story was there all along (including hints to most of the major events throughout the previous seasons).
With how Tolkein-esque the whole arc was, Season 5 was the scouring of the Shire. Plus, jms said he didn't want to just have "and they won the war(s) - the end" but wanted to deal with the after effects of war which so many stories leave that out.
However, the reason they leave it out is because it's usually anti-climatic which is what season 5 wound up being. Although Peter Jackson did have a half hour of goodbyes at the end of the trilogy, he was at least smart enough to realize the scouring of the Shire would have been awful for plot pacing (and possibly a terrible ending for the movies for other reasons as well).
Even with his original vision of the story that was season 5 being shortened several episodes, it was still far too long to tell what amounts to a really long epilogue, but with some other subplots thrown in to try and mask the fact that it's an epilogue.
But considering that basically no show at the time had the concept of a pre-planned story arc until Lost (although they missed that all-important "pre-planned" part), it's still pretty cool what he managed to pull off, even if the last season was far weaker than seasons 2-4.
Sorry, I'm a B5 junkie. I could talk for hours about that show. But as for the original point of the thread - I love that idea of a campaign exploring a mysterious alien ship! Might have to start working on writing some stuff up.
Don't see why you couldn't use D20 Modern for a quick Stargete D20 game, honestly. You have all the 3rd Ed / Pathfinder / D20 Modern stuff to pull from for creatures and whatnot.
I'm not sure how hard it would be to find, but there is a d20 Stargate game. It's amazingly well written and filled with great information on the Stargate universe.
Edit : Just saw someone else pointed this out (it is the Spy craft system, close to d20 modern)
Season 4 of B5 was my favorite. It felt like the perfect culmination of the previous seasons. Ivanova's speech at the Battle of Mars is my all-time favorite of the series, with Sheridan's speech to the Vorlons and Shadows (and other First Ones) a close second.
To be honest, the most heart-wrenching part in the whole series though was the very last episode of the series. I'll be honest... I cried.
Delenn raising her hand, the dropping it? Yah. I still cry every time I rewatch it.
Although Ivanova waking up and telling Stephen what she remembered through her tears is a very close second.
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Yeah Im not sure about this Rebooting of the Stargate movie franchise. The original didn't exactly make box office gold. It might be possible with more of an ensemble cast but frankly far too many people know Stargate now more for SG-1 than the original Russell/Spader movie. (I always forget French Stewart was playing a non comedy role in this too).
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oh I prefer my Stargate Dark And Gritty.
If you don't believe me look at Stargate over the years. (I dub it the Showtime era and Syfy era).
Showtime era had some of the far more memorable episodes and arc plots (In fact it started most of them). SG-1 in the Showtime era had more horror aspects, used far less CGI than Syfy, gave us Apophis, Heru'ur, The Tok'ra and so on. Sure there were some stinkers (Bane, Broca Divide) but generally the episodes in this era were great.
When the show moved to Syfy I generally found it went from an Adventure action Military show to an Action show with sprinkles of Adventure. It relied more on CGI, there were more long shots and everything felt more glossy.