Buy a Wand of Lead Blades and have a decent Use Magic Device skill.
Clerics/Warpriests of Gorum get it, as do Occultists I believe.
Otherwise while you can't use a wand for a spell not on your spell list normally, Use Magic Device does allow that with a successful check.
You could play a Samsaran and use the Mystic Past Life ability to add it to your class list.
How High would decent be?
And can you use a wand including a spell not on your spell list?(or was it just you get a bonus or something like that if it is)
10 would be decent for activating a wand out of combat.
The DC to activate a wand of a spell not on your spell list is 20.
The answer to your second question is "no, unless." The unless is unless you use the Use Magic Device skill to activate the wand.
Deific Obedience Achekek: Sentinel 3/day
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Strongjaw seems to target all of the natural attacks as well so yeah it would be nice to have.
Unfortunately It'll probably be to expensive in a wand and I don't think I got much of a chance of finding it at my mostly Sorcerous spell list.
Dragon Disciple.
atm I got a lot of multiclassing going:
1 lvl Bloodrager(Some Bab and more Dragon Bloodline+ bloodrage)
1 lvl Oracle (Lunar for cha to AC & Reflex instead of dex)
3 lvl Sorcerer (Draconic Gold Bloodline)
5 lvl Dragon Disciple(Favored Class)
lvl 1 starting Attributes:
Str 17, Dex 7, Con 14, Int 12, Wis 14, Cha 16
with availible gear at lvl 10
Str 25, Dex 7, Con 16, Int 12, Wis 16, Cha 18
I suppose I could drop a lvl of Sorcer for a lvl of Feral Hunter.
What do you guys think/Suggest?
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Quite frankly, if you want to go dragon disciple, and be mostly melee, forget sorcerer. Just go bloodrager with a level of hunter or druid. You can even do well dropping dragon disciple altogether and just going with bloodrager. If you do that, I'd probably pick abyssal blood line over dragon for the free enlarge person while raging.
How High would decent be?
And can you use a wand including a spell not on your spell list?(or was it just you get a bonus or something like that if it is)
10 would be decent for activating a wand out of combat.
The DC to activate a wand of a spell not on your spell list is 20.
The answer to your second question is "no, unless." The unless is unless you use the Use Magic Device skill to activate the wand.
The DC to activate a wand in or out of combat is 20, and you "can NOT take 10" on the check per the Use Magic Device description. But yes a 10 is a decent bonus at least you would have an even (50/50) chance of activating the wand. Remember thou you are only increasing the damage dice by one size category so unless your base damage is 1d8, 1d10, 1d12 you would be better off with the flat +1 damage from a Magic Weapon spell by gaining the +1 to your attach roll. Otherwise you really only marginally increase the max damage but increase the possibility for lower damage by more.
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Quite frankly, if you want to go dragon disciple, and be mostly melee, forget sorcerer. Just go bloodrager with a level of hunter or druid. You can even do well dropping dragon disciple altogether and just going with bloodrager. If you do that, I'd probably pick abyssal blood line over dragon for the free enlarge person while raging.
Perhaps, you might be right.
Though For the sake of the Group I have to Down Prioritize Melee a bit, I was originally the only full caster in our group, but being the sole survivor of the Original crew I intend to have the character retire and make a new one.We're well covered in frontliners So I intend to be using Guisarme for reach and trip attacks most of the time, but the moment the opponent gets close I want to be able to explode into their face with natural attacks.
I will also have to be the Groups go to splash attack guy to handle swarms.
I however look forwards to play a character with less spells to choose from, having bowed my head to many times when people have asked for one spell after another while playing a Druid.
Strongjaw seems to target all of the natural attacks as well so yeah it would be nice to have.
Unfortunately It'll probably be to expensive in a wand and I don't think I got much of a chance of finding it at my mostly Sorcerous spell list.
Dragon Disciple.atm I got a lot of multiclassing going:
1 lvl Bloodrager(Some Bab and more Dragon Bloodline+ bloodrage)
1 lvl Oracle (Lunar for cha to AC & Reflex instead of dex)
3 lvl Sorcerer (Draconic Gold Bloodline)
5 lvl Dragon Disciple(Favored Class)lvl 1 starting Attributes:
Str 17, Dex 7, Con 14, Int 12, Wis 14, Cha 16
with availible gear at lvl 10
Str 25, Dex 7, Con 16, Int 12, Wis 16, Cha 18
I suppose I could drop a lvl of Sorcer for a lvl of Feral Hunter.
What do you guys think/Suggest?
Prestige classes can't be favoured classes.
Prestige classes can't be favoured classes.
. . . Unless you are a Half-Elf with Multitalented Mastery. In most cases not worth it, though (maybe an exception if you had 2 base classes before your prestige class that had REALLY GOOD alternate FCBs with fast payoffs, although off the top of my head I can't think of an example of such things that would be synergistic).
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If you want to be a caster, forget dragon disciple except for maybe a 4 level dip. Losing caster levels hurts too much. If you want to be a natural attack machine, bloodrager/dd or pure bloodrager are the way to go. You can't really do both well. If you want to focus on casting, but do some natural attacks in a oinch, then sorcerer plus a 4 level dip in dd is the way to go.
I don't think any of the bloodrage bloodlines get lead blades. Strongjaw is better for natural attacks anyway. Go with strongjaw.Bloodrager.
Bloodlines get natural attacks and leadblades is on their spell list
I've seen players try to get both. Maybe that's what the OP is trying to do.
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I also want to throw in that things like lead blades and strongjaw, actually most self buffs are only worth it if you can't do anything else with your standard action. If you are moving into melee range, but can't get there, then use these spells, but if you can attack, it's better to do that than use your standard action to cast a spell. That's what makes warpriests so good. The extra damage also isn't going to amount to a whole lot unless you are also using the vital strike feat tree and are enlarged or something similar.
Both of those buffs last 1 minute/level. I wouldn't be planning on putting either of them up during a fight.