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I'm working on a new build and was wondering is a swordbreaker dagger is sufficiently like a dagger to benefit from things that enhance daggers. Specifically:
Collect small bones whenever it is convenient and respectful to do so. When it comes time to perform your obedience, lay out the bones in a spiral. At one end of the spiral lay a slip of parchment on which you have written the name of someone newly born. At the other end of the spiral, lay a slip of parchment on which you have written the name of someone newly deceased. Chant hymns from The Bones Land in a Spiral while proceeding solemnly around the spiral, trailing a black scarf on the ground behind you. Gain a +2 profane or sacred bonus on attack rolls made with daggers. The type of bonus depends on your alignment—if you’re neither good nor evil, you must choose either sacred or profane the first time you perform your obedience, and this choice can’t be changed.
You learned to swim right after you learned to walk. When you were a youth, a gang of river pirates put you to work swimming in nighttime rivers and canals with a dagger between your teeth so you could sever the anchor ropes of merchant vessels. You gain a +1 trait bonus on damage rolls with a dagger and a +1 trait bonus on Swim checks. Swim is always a class skill for you.
So does the swordbreaker dagger qualify?
You can use this dagger to disarm or sunder enemy blades by catching them in the grooves on the back of the blade and using your weapon as a lever. If you are proficient with this weapon, add a +4 bonus on combat maneuver checks to disarm or sunder bladed weapons while using it.
Well, it's a dagger, so... I'd think yes?
It requires its own exotic weapon proficiency... but it does say "this dagger," so I gotta go with Yes.
This is a valid question, mostly because some strange people will argue that it isn't. The same people will tell you that a longsword is indeed a sword, but a greatclub is not a club. For further information search for "shillelagh" threads :)
This is a valid question, mostly because some strange people will argue that it isn't. The same people will tell you that a longsword is indeed a sword, but a greatclub is not a club. For further information search for "shillelagh" threads :)
But do they admit that longswords are long and greatclubs are great?
The issue has to do with specific and general uses of the same term. It's easy to see that things that apply to "swords" apply to pretty much everything with "sword" in their name. "Sword" is used generally, which is obvious because there's no weapon called "sword".
However, there is a weapon called "sling" and one called "club". So when an ability says "You can do X with clubs", it's unclear whether they generically mean club-like weapons or if they specifically mean the Club. That might seem pedantic, but as mentioned there was the whole Sling/Slingstaff issue which came out in favor of specificity. So as much as one might want to roll their eyes at the argument that a greatclub is not a club, it is neither ill-founded nor illogical.
Here, the entry calls the weapon a dagger, so I'd be comfortable allowing it to work.
It requires its own exotic weapon proficiency... but it does say "this dagger," so I gotta go with Yes.
This is my thought as well.
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However, there is a weapon called "sling" and one called "club". So when an ability says "You can do X with clubs", it's unclear whether they generically mean club-like weapons or if they specifically mean the Club. That might seem pedantic, but as mentioned there was the whole Sling/Slingstaff issue which came out in favor of specificity. So as much as one might want to roll their eyes at the argument that a greatclub is not a club, it is neither ill-founded nor illogical.
So, just to be clear;
a sling staff is not a sling...
and a great club is not a club...
but a sling staff IS a club.
Everyone got that? :]
However, there is a weapon called "sling" and one called "club". So when an ability says "You can do X with clubs", it's unclear whether they generically mean club-like weapons or if they specifically mean the Club. That might seem pedantic, but as mentioned there was the whole Sling/Slingstaff issue which came out in favor of specificity. So as much as one might want to roll their eyes at the argument that a greatclub is not a club, it is neither ill-founded nor illogical.So, just to be clear;
a sling staff is not a sling...
and a great club is not a club...
but a sling staff IS a club.Everyone got that? :]
Precisely. I have no idea how this isn't perfectly obvious to everybody.