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So, when I banish a card for whatever reason, I put it back in the box at the bottom of the pile of previously shuffled cards of the same type.
As has been mentioned in several discussions, the definition of Banish is to shuffle the card back into the pile of cards of its type.
This strikes me as insanely cumbersome. A lot of cards get banished. Normally, I'd shrug and say, "what's the diff?" But we draw a fair number of random cards from the box, and in theory, a card banished during the game could come back into play if you shuffle it in. It's darned unlikely to if you stick it on the bottom as I do. Even the cheat of "just slipping it in somewhere random" doesn't quite give the (presumably) intended possibility of having end up on top, since nobody I've met will generally insert a card even close to one edge or the other of the pile.
Does anyone actually shuffle every time a card is banished?
Yes, I do. You're correct, it can be a bit tedious, especially if you shuffle slow, but it hurts me when I don't follow the rules.
Hey, it may seem really cumbersome at first, but many "card flipping" games revolve around playing cards that allow you to pull cards from decks and then reshuffle them or shuffle really helpful cards back into your deck.
Again, it may seem cumbersome, but it's well worth it when a really helpful card comes back late-game.
I never shuffle when I banish. Instead, I shuffle whenever I need to draw a card or cards from the box during the scenario. So I'll shuffle the armors when I defeat a Trapped Locker, etc.
Bard has the right idea.
I never shuffle when I banish a card; I shuffle the deck when we go to draw though.
Less time consuming and still very random.
I don't shuffle the banished cards back in. I just put them at the bottom of the pile. And when I need to choose a random card, I just pick the one off the top. This is not perfectly according to rules, and it upsets my OCD less to not add a complicated step of repeated shuffling.
Same here. Everything else is absurd, considering the already considerable time sink for setup.
Bard's option is more 'correct', of course, but with the already pre-shuffled box deck I consider that things even out in the long run. So maybe I banish a Combat 12 monster and put it on the bottom - yeah, it won't come back for sure, but I can either draw a Combat 8 or Combat 18 monster next time. On the flip side, I could banish my Sword +1 to close a location, and I don't get a chance to draw it back from scenario reward or a chest barrier, but then I don't know if I'll pull out a Quarterstaff or Longsword +2... Time saving notwithstanding, this option gives more cards the opportunity to see the light of day (maybe 20% of AD6 cards never have the chance to turn up, in my experience) and overall keeps the things more exciting and unpredictable.
The sole exception to the above are Ships - due to their numbers, I always shuffle before drawing a random Ship.
They do not even out in the long run. The probability to redraw the same card in your system is not low. It is always zero. But it never should be. Of course you can houserule it as you like, but I wanted to point out that it can never "even out".
What I meant is, this variant can go as easily in my favor, as against me, so I'm not seeing it as some 'exploit' that makes the game easier, even though it is technically 'breaking' the rules.
The sole exception to the above are Ships - due to their numbers, I always shuffle before drawing a random Ship.
Heh, I actually roll a die to determine what ship I'm about to encounter. It was kinda fun having the die size progress as more adventure decks got added, to the point where I had to bust out my S&S D20 because there were more than 12 ships to choose from.
I do the same thing as Eliandra and Longshot, adhering perfectly to the rules on this point drags out gameplay for a marginal-at-best effect. For OP, I use First World Bard's method of shuffling the pile when I need to draw from it (and the shuffle is only needed if I banished something to that pile previously and didn't shuffle after that point).
Well because I hate shuffling or losing time and because we like to meet different boons/banes from one game to another, we housed rule long ago this way (and never changed) :
For those "little" stacks of cards (<20 cards) like ships, we never shuffle them, but just roll a d20 and pick the designated card. After dealing with that card, we put it back in the deck where it was.
For larger stacks (e. g. armors or monsters), during the game :
- when we need to pick a card at random from a stack, we take the first one of the deck
- when we need to banish/return in box a card we put it aside (not in the box)
At the end of the game, we shuffle what's left of a stack in the box BEFORE putting back the cards banished during that deck, then we add them on the bottom of the deck
This way a single card can only appear ONCE every 2 games... we like diversity (and we WANT to meet at some point that nasty terrible dragon)
And more important : only one shuffling of each stack per game
I never shuffle when I banish. Instead, I shuffle whenever I need to draw a card or cards from the box during the scenario. So I'll shuffle the armors when I defeat a Trapped Locker, etc.
This. When I banish cards I put them upside down and facing me, then I can see which types of card need shuffling. When I need to draw cards, I flip the wrong-facing ones over and shuffle.
When I'm playing on my own, I use the bard method. The group I play with, however, does the method of just putting cards at the bottom and not shuffling, and it's not super important to me, so I'm fine with that way.
As I play with Eliandra, I play like Eliandra.
I have almost never shuffled when banishing or drawing from the box. I'm about 40/60 on letting the person who did the thing to choose from a nice spread of cards. I used to do that more often, not sure why I've changed that (speeds up the game for me to just draw the last one in the section).
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I just put all the banished cards in a pile and sort them later. It's rare that we wind up banishing cards we really-really-really miss.