So my only PC just died, so I have a question in regards to making a new one...


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I understand I have to start at level one, follow all the rules regarding gear, money, experience, items, fame, etc.... But I really liked the character that died. I know there is no getting him back, However, is it possible to make this characters new backstory that the soul of my previous character was reborn into this new body? Or maybe some druid somewhere brought the soul back, and put it into a homunculus? I'm not doing this for any experience or trying to cheat death, I don't even want him to keep the memories if that isn't possible, I'm thinking purely because I liked the name and the physical appearance of the character, as well as the personality. I just wanted to know, is it legal?

Anyway, I know that is a pretty big question, and I appreciate the answers I get ahead of time. I just feel I put a lot of myself into this character, and it would really suck to lose him.

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If I am understanding your idea correctly, then I would say yes, as long as you are not trying to get any sort of mechanical benefit. Although your official name will need a 2 after it or something.

Grand Lodge

There can't be two people by the same name in that world? Or is it just under my account?

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There can not be two people with the exact same name in the Paizo database.

Grand Lodge

Damn. Well thank you very much. Your answer has proved to be invaluable.

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Also Raise Dead is a thing in PFS. Your first character might not be as dead as you thought.

Liberty's Edge 4/5 *** Venture-Lieutenant, Indiana—Northwestern Indiana

Very often, players will chip in to raise a character from the dead. Note that this is not always an option.

If the new character is interacting with the former character's associates, they may be a bit creeped out by claims of reincarnation. Your new character could be a relative or a stranger who looks like the old character and there is a lot of fun role playing opportunities there. (Besides identical cousins, you may have others mistaking your new character for the former one.)

The Exchange 3/5

Why not remake the character as Bob Jr and he's following in dad's footsteps?

Grand Lodge

Unfortunately, raising the dead isn't an option, as he was only level 3 so his fame/prestige wasn't high enough, and it was a TPK so there was no bringing his body back. I can consider the family member idea, I'd just have to think of an interesting backstory for him if that's what I go with.

Liberty's Edge 1/5

Well, I imagine you have 5 prestige, so you could have a pathfinder group recover the body, but getting raise dead at level 3 after a TPK is pretty tough.

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Tankallex wrote:
Unfortunately, raising the dead isn't an option, as he was only level 3 so his fame/prestige wasn't high enough, and it was a TPK so there was no bringing his body back.

5 pp will recover a body. (with your stuff)

If you're all dead anyway, you may as well sell all of your stuff and pool it to res SOMEONE in the party.

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BigNorseWolf wrote:
Tankallex wrote:
Unfortunately, raising the dead isn't an option, as he was only level 3 so his fame/prestige wasn't high enough, and it was a TPK so there was no bringing his body back.

5 pp will recover a body. (with your stuff)

If you're all dead anyway, you may as well sell all of your stuff and pool it to res SOMEONE in the party.

That's why the gods gave us potatahs. "One potatuh. Two potatah..."

Silver Crusade 4/5

You can always create a new character with identical stats, name (except for a "2" after it in the online database or something), etc and claim that he was raised from the dead, but couldn't get his equipment back or cover the negative levels, which is why he's starting over at level 1.

Or be his identical twin brother. Or aliens decided to make a clone of him. Or his son, carrying on the father's legacy.

But all of these would be purely role playing and have no mechanical impact. Mechanics-wise, you're still playing a brand new level 1 PC.

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-the one that died was a doppleganger

-You were duplicated by a magical transporter tapestry accident

-identical triplets

-Reincarnated by a druid, who curse you out for using up all the luck they wanted to use in magnimar

-brought back from the dead by a deity... who wants to collect a favor. A lot of them.

-You accidentally wandered into kyras cloning vat

-test of the new semilacrum blog

-experimental remote control body.

Grand Lodge 4/5

As long as the character is mechanically a brand new character, you can come up with any backstory you like. I understand there is a character around the Society that claims to be the dead god Aroden reborn. I can't see anything wrong with saying your character was reincarnated back at level one.

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One of the guys in our area has played multiple iterations of the same Time Oracle, with the "bit" being that these different characters are all the same time-traveling character at different points in her timeline. It's pretty fun, actually.

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Dorothy Lindman wrote:
One of the guys in our area has played multiple iterations of the same Time Oracle, with the "bit" being that these different characters are all the same time-traveling character at different points in her timeline. It's pretty fun, actually.

Who?

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Dorothy Lindman wrote:
One of the guys in our area has played multiple iterations of the same Time Oracle, with the "bit" being that these different characters are all the same time-traveling character at different points in her timeline. It's pretty fun, actually.

Where did he get a big blue phone booth?

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Jessex wrote:
Dorothy Lindman wrote:
One of the guys in our area has played multiple iterations of the same Time Oracle, with the "bit" being that these different characters are all the same time-traveling character at different points in her timeline. It's pretty fun, actually.
Where did he get a big blue phone booth?

Portable tub?

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BigNorseWolf wrote:
Jessex wrote:
Dorothy Lindman wrote:
One of the guys in our area has played multiple iterations of the same Time Oracle, with the "bit" being that these different characters are all the same time-traveling character at different points in her timeline. It's pretty fun, actually.
Where did he get a big blue phone booth?
Portable tub?

Or some strange contraption with a giant wheel in back?

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Nohwear wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:
Jessex wrote:
Dorothy Lindman wrote:
One of the guys in our area has played multiple iterations of the same Time Oracle, with the "bit" being that these different characters are all the same time-traveling character at different points in her timeline. It's pretty fun, actually.
Where did he get a big blue phone booth?
Portable tub?
Or some strange contraption with a giant wheel in back?

It's on the chronicle sheet for Scenario 10-13 (10-11 subtier).

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Jayson MF Kip wrote:
Nohwear wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:
Jessex wrote:
Dorothy Lindman wrote:
One of the guys in our area has played multiple iterations of the same Time Oracle, with the "bit" being that these different characters are all the same time-traveling character at different points in her timeline. It's pretty fun, actually.
Where did he get a big blue phone booth?
Portable tub?
Or some strange contraption with a giant wheel in back?
It's on the chronicle sheet for Scenario 10-13 (10-11 subtier).

It would be funny if there was one when that finally arrives.

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It's not necessarily what you want to play, but you could be a Reanimated Medium and actually be your old dead character scrabbled back from beyond. Or a Spiritualist with your old character as a pet.

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Would that be a Reincarnated Large?

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Your character was dead.

Thats insufficient protection against drendle drengs 5 am wakeup calls.

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Make a Spiritualist using the spirit of your previous character.

Lantern Lodge 5/5 * RPG Superstar 2015 Top 16

This might be relevant: How many of those have you got?

Silliness aside, I'd suggest throwing in some other random quirk to help differentiate the new PC from the old. Especially to those who may have been familiar with your first PC from a previous adventure, it can make the roleplaying more enjoyable for both sides.

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DO NOT MAKE ANY MORE POSTS USING THE FIRST CHARACTER'S NAME.

You can still change the name of your dead character before you've posted 10 times, and you're currently at 9 assuming this is the character. Then you can re-use the name in your new character after you've freed it up.

Silver Crusade 3/5 *** Venture-Captain, North Carolina—Asheville

Zak is correct. I tend to change the name of my dead characters to 'the late'. I did that with one PC who died in the first level of Thornkeep, and created a new character using the name again.

It's funny because the concept behind the character(s) is that he's a member of the Belmont clan from the Castlevania video game series, so it's like I just lost a life and had to start back at the beginning of the level.

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Zak Glade wrote:

DO NOT MAKE ANY MORE POSTS USING THR FIRST CHARACTER'S NAME.

You can still change the name of your dead character before you've posted 10 times, and you're currently at 9 assuming this is the character. Then you can re-usr the name in your new character after you've freed it up.

Good call. The rest of us should have thought of that.

Change the original character's name to "Tankallex the Dead", and then just plain "Tankallex" will no longer be taken, so you can use that for the new character.

Grand Lodge

Zak Glade wrote:

DO NOT MAKE ANY MORE POSTS USING THR FIRST CHARACTER'S NAME.

You can still change the name of your dead character before you've posted 10 times, and you're currently at 9 assuming this is the character. Then you can re-usr the name in your new character after you've freed it up.

Done and done, seriously, thank you SO MUCH for that advice.

BigNorseWolf wrote:

-the one that died was a doppleganger

-You were duplicated by a magical transporter tapestry accident

-identical triplets

-Reincarnated by a druid, who curse you out for using up all the luck they wanted to use in magnimar

-brought back from the dead by a deity... who wants to collect a favor. A lot of them.

-You accidentally wandered into kyras cloning vat

-test of the new semilacrum blog

-experimental remote control body.

All great ideas, I especially like the deity bringing me back for favors...

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Glad you saw it in time! I've done it for a handful of characters before.

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David Higaki wrote:
I'd suggest throwing in some other random quirk to help differentiate the new PC from the old.

Like different colored cloaks

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Hide behind the mound of dead bards

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BigNorseWolf wrote:
Hide behind the mound of dead bards

Dead Wizards. Wasn't Ezren voted as "most likely pregen to die"?

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The Late Tankallex wrote:

I understand I have to start at level one, follow all the rules regarding gear, money, experience, items, fame, etc.... But I really liked the character that died. I know there is no getting him back, However, is it possible to make this characters new backstory that the soul of my previous character was reborn into this new body? Or maybe some druid somewhere brought the soul back, and put it into a homunculus? I'm not doing this for any experience or trying to cheat death, I don't even want him to keep the memories if that isn't possible, I'm thinking purely because I liked the name and the physical appearance of the character, as well as the personality. I just wanted to know, is it legal?

It isn't. you can't register a second character with the same name.

I put a lot into my characters, but when they die, I never make duplicates of them... Duplicates cheapen the memory of the first character as well as devalue the second. If the character had a good story and a dramatic ending.... that's worth letting the chapter close.

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LazarX wrote:
The Late Tankallex wrote:

I understand I have to start at level one, follow all the rules regarding gear, money, experience, items, fame, etc.... But I really liked the character that died. I know there is no getting him back, However, is it possible to make this characters new backstory that the soul of my previous character was reborn into this new body? Or maybe some druid somewhere brought the soul back, and put it into a homunculus? I'm not doing this for any experience or trying to cheat death, I don't even want him to keep the memories if that isn't possible, I'm thinking purely because I liked the name and the physical appearance of the character, as well as the personality. I just wanted to know, is it legal?

It isn't. you can't register a second character with the same name.

That was covered earlier in this thread.

As long as you haven't made 10 posts under the alias, you can still change it, so you can make it a different name, whether it is Tankallex the Dead, or Goblindead, it frees up the original name, Tankallex in this case, to use for a new PFS PC.

I know I have several PFS PCs (21?) with the same name as someone's board alias or another PFS PC. I usually add " PC" to the end of the name, which allows me to use it. Heck, one of the board aliases I was in conflict with was my own alias which is what I named my second PFS PC, who is registered as "Kinevon PC", since the system said Kinevon was in use. <glances upward to the name used for this post>.

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kinevon wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:
Hide behind the mound of dead bards
Dead Wizards. Wasn't Ezren voted as "most likely pregen to die"?

I've only killed two PCs in over 60 tables of PFS GMing. The first was an Ezren.

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kinevon wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:
Hide behind the mound of dead bards
Dead Wizards. Wasn't Ezren voted as "most likely pregen to die"?

Reiko for dead pregen. Ezren solos scenarios with his staff.

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Steven Schopmeyer wrote:
kinevon wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:
Hide behind the mound of dead bards
Dead Wizards. Wasn't Ezren voted as "most likely pregen to die"?
Reiko for dead pregen. Ezren solos scenarios with his staff.

I have yet to see a pregen drop stone cold dead. Generally speaking, they've been the skills we've needed and the roles we've needed and they've been solid and alive the whole time. (And that was before the tweaking that they apparently got recently).

In fact, come to think of it... while I'm not volunteering for such, I haven't seen anyone *bite* it yet... though a few folks came within one round of it?

Silver Crusade 2/5

I have seen a Kyra get bitten in half in a round. It was the Watcher, and was one bite, and that is all Kyra got to do.

Lantern Lodge 5/5

I thought the "pregen most likely to die" was Meresiel. Or Reiko.

I've seen Mereisel get poisoned to death on [literally] the first step inside the dungeon.

4/5 ** Venture-Captain, Pennsylvania—Pittsburgh

I've seen level 7 Seoni drop from full health to stone dead from one piddly fireball trap.

The Exchange 5/5

in the scenario that targets Clerics, in the last scene I shot Kyra dead in... 1.5 melee rounds. Last shot was a crit when Kyra only had 5 HP left (and the min. damage put her well over neg CON)...

That's one of my very few PC kills - and one reason I won't run that scenario again.

5/5 *****

I killed a level 7 Kyra once with a hammer crit and then animated her as a zombie in a 5-9.

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Jessex wrote:
Dorothy Lindman wrote:
One of the guys in our area has played multiple iterations of the same Time Oracle, with the "bit" being that these different characters are all the same time-traveling character at different points in her timeline. It's pretty fun, actually.
Where did he get a big blue phone booth?

Spoiler:
Reign of Winter
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Fromper wrote:
kinevon wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:
Hide behind the mound of dead bards
Dead Wizards. Wasn't Ezren voted as "most likely pregen to die"?
I've only killed two PCs in over 60 tables of PFS GMing. The first was an Ezren.

That's not a real surprise. Wizards are squishy after all, keeping them alive is a mix of tactical sense and luck.

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LazarX wrote:
Fromper wrote:
kinevon wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:
Hide behind the mound of dead bards
Dead Wizards. Wasn't Ezren voted as "most likely pregen to die"?
I've only killed two PCs in over 60 tables of PFS GMing. The first was an Ezren.
That's not a real surprise. Wizards are squishy after all, keeping them alive is a mix of tactical sense and luck.

This one was a pretty funny story. I was GMing First Steps 1 for a group that was new to Society, but experienced 3.5/PF players. The guy playing the Ezren pregen tried to acrobatics past Mr. Moustache in the final encounter, failed, and took a crit to the face. It was one of those "Well, I was doing something silly because I don't care anyway, so I really don't care that I died" moments.

Sczarni 5/5 5/55/5 ***

I spent a scenario playing Reiko having her disguised as a harmless old woman. She survived just fine! =D

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every pregens terrible:
Every pregens terrible...

to the tune of modern major general

The wizards spellbooks thinner than the the sharp edge of reality
with valeros dual wielding calling miss is mere formality
The one to pick I fear I must prognosticate
with cons that low i doubt at all they can coagulate

Why anyone would play a toon this bad remains a mystery
I can't believe you'd tolerate them in your character history
with Merisiels lack of social skills you will achieve
a little less p a then if you'd maxed out ranks in basket-weave

That I'd rather eat an otyug may speak to my neurology
but the saranite is limited to healing methodology
the thought of picking any one of them's unbearable
Harsk is bad beyond the worst but every pregens terrible.

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