Hello everybody...
Me and my girlfriend are in a friend's campaign that is just turning out to be a giant grind fest. So we have a question what are classes people recommend to either compete in damage to have fun in a campaign where the gm favours one player and the rest are just fodder for the slaughter? We have a damphir summoner/synergist and the gm favourite player is a catfolk slayer which was respectd to from a regular rogue so has evasion when she shouldn't have till 10th level now....
So what we are looking for is ideas on2 types of classes..
1) Someone who can either deal a f&%! ton of damage or eat a f%** ton of damage.
2) Either a really good healer or a halfass one with minimal heal spells.
Right now my girl friend is playing an Undine Enchantress Sorceress multiclassing to rogue to eventually be arcane trickster. She thought this was supposed to be a campaign of intrigue and against humanoids but then it turned out to be a monster hunting grind fest. Now she's waiting to swap spells to do damage or thinking of getting rid of her completely due to being useless all the time...
My first character was an evil cleric necromancer that died because of stupid circumstances. My second character that i only had for 2 sessions was a Ifrit Samurai that got scared away due to fear effects and won't go back to the group due to shame. Lol stupid Jack o Lanterns...
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Talk to your DM. That's my advice. Trying to compete will only end up with the DM smiting your character if he is exhibiting favortism. Instead, tell him respectfully that not everybody is having fun, and could we please focus on some other aspects of the game? If he shouts you down or doesn't budge, get yourself out of a toxic situation and leave.
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Paladins can tank (swift-action self-heals and high AC), heal, and do lots of circumstantial damage, particularly against evil critters, and especially evil dragons and undead.
Oracles of Life and Oradins (oracle/paladin multi-classes) are great healers too. And Life oracles don't have to be passive in combat. They can grab all the cool oracle spells, like murderous command. Some oracle curses also have neat spells. And some races have really cool favored class bonuses, like the aasimar.
My girlfriend tried that approach cause us and the GM are good friends, but the issue is that she is new and asks our opinions and then doesn't use them. On top of that she asked to respecand was blatantly told no due to her backstory as a circus performer. Now we are trying to a) help her come be a better gm, (which girlfriend is pretty awesome) and all that's happening is that the gm is putting more responsibility on my girlfriend, and encounters that Chan is completely useless in. B) deal with a total grind fest withno direction so we are looking for classes to cooperate with the setting...
On top of that our Synergist can stay alive by swapping hit points out of with her eldilon, and the slayer is GM immune so no death could fall apon the slayer...
If you're looking for a spotlight-hogging, damage-dealing, hit-me-I-don't-care Badass then you can't go too far wrong with a straight-up Invulnerable Rager Barbarian. Grab Power Attack, the Beast Totem line of Rage powers and Superstition and you're good to go. By default you'll put out a lot of damage, have great HP and your DR eventually becomes solid.
A very good alternative is Arcane bloodline Bloodrager - their defensive abilities are magical and thus vulnerable to dispel, true seeing and the like but great otherwise. Blur and Mirror Image as soon as you enter Bloodrage at level 11. Offensive abilities are mostly lower than the Barbarian but more flexible due to casting.
In terms of a healer, consider the Shaman. The Life Spirit has the tools you need, and Wandering Spirits, Arcane Enlightenment and the human FCB get you absurd spell variety and flexibility. They also get Hexes, Familiars and can cast in armor. Shamans are the Swiss Army Knife of casters, not necessarily the best at any single role but competent at nearly anything. They are MAD though, and improve quadratically with high stats.
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Try using shield other with that slayer. Then you too can be immortal.
Or vampiric touch.
Hello everyone I'm the girlfriend referred to in Garion Beckett's post.
SmiloDan, you are quite evil!!! But we aren't trying to kill the scaredy-cat slayer. Just trying to keep up with the favouritism and raw power of the other players in this combat based campaign.
Just for clarification:
What are the limits of this campaign? What sort of level range and duration are you expecting? What level do you start? Are you rolled or point buy (if so, how many points?)? Are any classes or races off-limits?
How do you guys feel of a Soulforger Magus that can craft anything in sight. Our characters will be lvl 7 and by now the class can make any mundane item at 1/10gp for time and then half time for half time for enchanting. Then because we'd be entering at 7th level 7 and given 23500gp to equip ourselves i can enchant up to a +2 items and for super cheap so will never miss or get hit. And for any caster class that doesn't melee it would be bracers of armour, robes of awesome, amulet of natural armour all with +2 armour bonus...
The limit is lvl 7 and rolled stats (reroll 1s and 2s) and as for offlimits are any class not in the any of the core books or any of the ultimate books, or in the inner sea setting or god book or unchained. But other then that nothing online..
Paladins are fun. They're pretty versatile (face, tank, damage-dealer, healer), with some fun built-in roleplaying hooks if you're not Lawful Stupid.
Are there any suggestions of 2 classes that work extremely well together? Because if we're both building a new character as my character has a high chance of dying due to uselessness vs undead and/or plants.
I'd like to have some sort of adventuring background with Garion Beckett's character instead of more strangers getting added to the party. Outside of the standard pally and cleric duo.
What she means is what 2 character types work together. Say if i want to be a crafter magus, what could she be to compliment me.
Toss in a gunslinger dual-wielding dual-barrelled pistols, shot everything to death in a round. Just max your initiative so you can go first, and pull the triggers.
Of course, he will probably end you anyways after one encounter. But oh boy, the look in their faces would be glorious.
Toss in a gunslinger dual-wielding dual-barrelled pistols, shot everything to death in a round. Just max your initiative so you can go first, and pull the triggers.
Of course, he will probably end you anyways after one encounter. But oh boy, the look in their faces would be glorious.
Errata happened. Double-barrelled pistols no longer work the same.
Maybe play some of those classes that get bonus Teamwork feats and see if you can find some fun combinations.
Inquisitor, Cavalier, Hunter?
Hello everyone I'm the girlfriend referred to in Garion Beckett's post.
SmiloDan, you are quite evil!!! But we aren't trying to kill the scaredy-cat slayer. Just trying to keep up with the favouritism and raw power of the other players in this combat based campaign.
If you have talked to the GM and nothing has changed, either accept the staus quo or walk now. This is as mentioned above a toxic situation because keeping up with favouritism is an impossible goal. A GM like that will just keep moving the goalposts everytime you step up your game. You literally cannot win this in-game. The only real solution is talk your GM round.
A soul forger magus needs a few pearls of power (diminished spellcasting and no spell recall) and could really use a friend who can make them at half price. Fortunately that's not a high bar to meet, anyone with the Craft Wondrous Items feat and a bit of spellcraft will do. Maybe a bard? They can in turn benefit from the magus making weapons/armor for them, and can buff the magus in combat. It might even be a replacement the GM would accept for the circus background.
Isn't there a Waves oracle revelation that lets you see through mist or steam? Maybe go Oradin and Orquisitor???
Team work feats sound like a fun way to deal with the monster-hunting without taking over the party. I may end up purposely making a mistake like "forgot to re-cast Mage armour" and just let my character die. Then I can create a new character and back story.
Our GM is insistent on keeping this, her first campaign, alive for our Slayer who is the focus of this campaign instead of killing it and letting us build a new campaign with characters that already know each other or have similar goals in the game.
Why does she like that slayer so much?
Is she playing it herself, or is it played by a boy/girlfriend or her crush, or something?
It belongs to her noob sister. She won't attack her because her sister might quit if her character dies we think.
The dual Teamwork feat idea sounds fun! It's a bit unusual to coordinate character builds so closely, so have a lot of fun with it! :-D
If you want even more coordinated fun...
Both of you go half-orc, and have a jolly good time beating the living hell out of everything.