A good old grinding game, always a good time. I'm going to draw up a fighter/rogue who uses two-weapon fighting and sneak attacks for massive frontline damage. I should be back in a few hours with a character.
Gale is complete and ready to go when you are!
I am almost done... hurrying up...
All right. I believe I'm done enough to begin. Spells are prepared on a day-to-day basis anyway, so I'll finalize the preparations in-game. No reason to fill all my slots even then either, I might need to pick up something specific during the day to respond to situations.
I really wouldn't mind at all if I could be put in a party consisting exclusively of good characters - I plan to fiddle around with Holy Word, and that one gets iffy with neutral characters.
If that doesn't work out, that's okay though - it just means I'll have to shuffle some things around to get Magical Lineage and Selective Spell in there.
I have returned with my character crunch complete. I humbly present Lucian Threl, half-elf fighter/rogue. In combat he is a front-liner who can deal damage and take it in return, although focuses more on dealing damage than taking it. He will use both acrobatics and feinting to get his sneak attack damage out. Out of combat he is a very good scout and trap finder, as well as a decent face with high bluff and sense motive checks. I have an idea for his personality that I will be adding in the next day or so. I always appreciate feedback!
All right. I believe I'm more or less done with Mi'al, the mounted monk/cleric.
I still need to finish gear and spell selection, but that's about it. I've the cliff notes for her personality and story written down elsewhere.
Guided is not a valid PF weapon enhancement. It comes from one of their 3.5 modules.
Can we gestalt into PRC's?
I have a monk/sorceror-dragon disciple idea in mind
Do you mean stopping gestalt or just taking one side into the prestige class?
Do you mean stopping gestalt or just taking one side into the prestige class?
just having one side as PRC.
In my case something like Monk 13 - Sorceror 5/Dragon Disciple 8
I'm not very inclined to allow prestige classes, though as I already have once, it is something I'll consider once I see the build. I don't recall dragon disciple being all that broken, so give it shot.
^Cool, I'll get working on it.
Do you have a submittal deadline?
Right now looks like we're on schedule for 2 tables of 6. I'd like to get them both going soon, but I can simply start the first table with the six ready presently.
Alright, I am finished properly. I might change a few things when actual play starts for my own convinience or adding different wildshape forms. Anyways what changed is I added familiar and 3 wildshape forms.
One thing I should note- you cannot shapeshift or polymorph into a form outside of the bestiaries (basically based on someone always using the 4 armed gargoyle form).
I am reconsidering my build, on the basis that even Mooks will not be that easy to kill on Mythic and a Blaster really is only there for the Mooks.
It won't take much to adapt my build to a more combat-orientated role, so I'll basically be Arcanist//Magus (Kensai), though I may add Something More Martial to the magus side, and I may pick an archetype for the Arcanist. The idea is to be like an Eldritch Knight, with 9th level Spells at 20th level from the Arcanist and the magus Arcana Broad Study enabling me to cast them via Spell Combat. I will end up as a BBF (Big Buffed Fighter), some buffs having long duration (e.g. Mage armor, Greater Magic Weapon) being cast at the beginning of the day while others (Haste, Mirror Image or Greater Invisibility) being cast during combat to enhance my Fighting (via Spell combat or quicken)
Table update :)
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Irra Sarusek Gnome Bard (Sound Striker)13|Oracle (Heavens) 13
Aramus Half-elf fighter (Duelist) 13|cavalier (Daring) 13
Arvaldo Gnome Kinetecist 13|Rogue (Unchained, Carnivalist) 12/Shadowdancer 1
Gale Stormborn Slyph Shaman 13|Slayer 13
Mi'al Aasimar Cleric (Divine Strategist) 13|Monk (Sohei)
Rogard Skybeard Dwarf Druid 13|Alchemist (Beastmorph, Vivisections) 13
Lucian Threll Half Elf Fighter(Two-weapon Warrior) 13|Rogue(Knife Master) 13
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Raphael Anaviel
Gavmania
@Mi'al - Thanks for putting that list together, except you missed my character.
One thing I should note- you cannot shapeshift or polymorph into a form outside of the bestiaries (basically based on someone always using the 4 armed gargoyle form).
That would have been nice to know before hand. Well finishing that part of the sheet will have to wait for tomorrow, it has all the relevant info anyways.
@Mi'al - Thanks for putting that list together, except you missed my character.
Sorry. Edited him in.
One thing I should note- you cannot shapeshift or polymorph into a form outside of the bestiaries (basically based on someone always using the 4 armed gargoyle form).
That's no problem for me. If I polymorph it is most likely to be into an Air Elemental as I plan to go for DEX based combat.
@The Dragon - Oh dang, I'm sorry. I forgot that I changed his archetype from knife master to scout. That's my bad, I didn't make the change in his header.
It's quite all right. I can't edit it though. I'll need to mess around with my character too, just noted that guided weapons aren't allowed.
There are a number of ways to deal with this:
-I already have a strength-focused version floating around. It had full plate, and it was glorious. Dunno if I'll go back to it though.
-Guided Hand. This will require messing around with feats, but that's just how it goes. Will still need to do something else for damage.
-Make something else. Always a valid option.
Edit: Hmm. As for that last one, I've wanted to play a paladin//monk ever since I started reading this. No reason it couldn't work out. And sohei get to flurry in armor, so that could be fun. It's a shame I can't put Champion of Irori in there as well, but there you go.
Yeah. I think I'll do this. Be back in a sec.
All right. Mi'al is now a paladin. Also fixing the table to reflect that Lucian is a scout.
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Irra Sarusek Gnome Bard (Sound Striker)13|Oracle (Heavens) 13
Aramus Half-elf fighter (Duelist) 13|cavalier (Daring) 13
Arvaldo Gnome Kinetecist 13|Rogue (Unchained, Carnivalist) 12/Shadowdancer 1
Gale Stormborn Slyph Shaman 13|Slayer 13
Mi'al Aasimar Paladin (Oath of Vengeance) 13|Monk (Sohei)
Rogard Skybeard Dwarf Druid 13|Alchemist (Beastmorph, Vivisections) 13
Lucian Threll Half Elf Fighter(Two-weapon Warrior) 13|Rogue(Scout) 13
No sheet
Raphael Anaviel
Gavmania
Updated to new forms and fixed few math issues.
OK, Who's ready to get started tomorrow?
Oddly we don't appear to actually have a arcane type built yet except for the bard (maybe alchemist).
Not sure if I want to try and pick a balanced bunch of just first come first serve. With gestalt that shouldn't be too big an issue.
I'm ready to start, if you want.
Haven't finished everything, but count me in!
He is a Deaf Oracle of Life / Unchained Summoner with an angelic Eidolon. No archetypes or other shenanigans.
Roles: Face - Healer - Summoner
I'm ready to start today!
Alchemy is arcan-ish, I can blast, and we have plenty of divine casting. If we can get wands or scrolls, I start at +22 UMD. I think we'll do fine. We'll just need to adapt.
I am ready to start anytime!
I start at +22 UMD
How did you manage that? The most insane skill check I've ever gotten at level 1 is +18 perception.
Umm, you are level 13, so +22 isn't that hard to believe.
Umm, you are level 13, so +22 isn't that hard to believe.
*Facepalm* Of course, duh. I had a brainfart there. My default mindset for recruitment is that we're level 1, sorry haha.
Ready to play.
Too late?
No, I am planning on a second table, and we already have more than we need for one table.
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Darryl Vilani
Male human fighter (aldori swordlord) 13/monk (master of many styles) 2/swashbuckler 5/aldori swordlord 6/gestalt (Pathfinder Player Companion: Inner Sea Primer, Pathfinder RPG Advanced Class Guide 56, Pathfinder RPG Ultimate Combat 59)
LG Medium humanoid (human)
Init +14; Senses Perception +18
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Defense
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AC 33, touch 22, flat-footed 23 (+9 armor, +2 deflection, +8 Dex, +2 dodge, +2 shield)
hp 95 (13d10+13)
Fort +13, Ref +20, Will +10 (+5 resistance vs enchantment, +3 vs. fear); +4 vs. effects that cause you to lose your grip on weapons
Defensive Abilities charmed life 3/day, defensive parry, evasion, nimble +1
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Offense
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Speed 30 ft.
Melee +2 dueling aldori dueling sword +29/+24/+19 (1d8+15/17-20+5 Precision) or
. . dagger +25/+20/+15 (1d4+5/17-20+5 Precision) or
. . dagger +25/+20/+15 (1d4+5/17-20+5 Precision) or
. . gauntlet (from armor) +14/+9/+4 (1d3+1) or
. . unarmed strike +14/+9/+4 (1d6+1)
Special Attacks deeds (derring-do, dodging panache, kip-up, menacing swordplay, opportune parry and riposte, precise strike, swashbuckler initiative), disarming strike, panache (3), stunning fist (3/day, DC 16), swashbuckler weapon training +1, weapon trainings (heavy blades +4, light blades +3)
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Statistics
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Str 13, Dex 26, Con 12, Int 22, Wis 10, Cha 10
Base Atk +13; CMB +14 (+18 dirty trick, +37 disarm, +18 reposition, +18 trip); CMD 36 (40 vs. bull rush, 40 vs. dirty trick, 46 vs. disarm, 49 vs. grapple, 40 vs. reposition, 40 vs. sunder, 57 vs. trip)
Feats Aldori Dueling Mastery[ISWG], Blind-fight, Combat Expertise, Combat Reflexes, Cornugon Smash, Crane Riposte[UC], Crane Style[UC], Crane Wing[UC], Dazzling Display, Dodge, Exotic Weapon Proficiency (aldori dueling sword), Extra Panache[ACG], Hurtful, Improved Disarm, Improved Unarmed Strike, Power Attack, Shatter Defenses, Slashing Grace[ACG], Stunning Fist, Violent Display, Weapon Focus (aldori dueling sword)
Traits bruising intellect, fate's favored
Skills Acrobatics +24, Appraise +8, Bluff +18, Climb +8, Diplomacy +2, Disguise +2, Escape Artist +24, Fly +8, Heal +2, Intimidate +24 (+29 to demoralize with Aldori dueling sword), Knowledge (dungeoneering) +24, Knowledge (nobility) +14, Perception +18, Ride +8, Sense Motive +23, Spellcraft +21, Stealth +24, Survival +9, Swim +7
Languages Aklo, Common, Dwarven, Elven, Giant, Goblin, Sylvan
SQ adaptive tactics, counterattack, dare (), deft strike, display weapon prowess, fuse style, hero points, saving slash, shatter confidence, steel net, swashbuckler finesse
Combat Gear quick runner's shirt; Other Gear celestial armor, +2 dueling aldori dueling sword, dagger, dagger, belt of incredible dexterity +4, cape of free will +2/+3, gloves of dueling, headband of vast intelligence +4, ring of feather falling, ring of protection +2, seducer's bane, stagger-proof boots, stone of good luck (luckstone), swarmbane clasp, bedroll, flint and steel, masterwork backpack, silk rope (50 ft.), sunrod (4), waterskin, wrist sheath, spring loaded, wrist sheath, spring loaded, 95 gp, 9 sp
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Special Abilities
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Adaptive Tactics (Ex) Use Sense Motive to gain +2 attack or AC vs. creature struck last round. (DC 10+BAB)
Aldori Dueling Mastery Gain combat benefits when using Aldori dueling swords
Blind-Fight Re-roll misses because of concealment, other benefits.
Cape of free will +2/+3 Spend 1 power as immediate action to reroll failed Will save.
Charmed Life (3/day) (Ex) Choose to add Charisma bonus to save before roll is made.
Combat Expertise -3/+4 Bonus to AC in exchange for an equal penalty to attack.
Combat Reflexes (9 AoO/round) Can make extra attacks of opportunity/rd, and even when flat-footed.
Cornugon Smash When you damage an opponent with a Power Attack, you may make an immediate Intimidate check as a free action to attempt to demoralize your opponent.
Counterattack At 11th level, an Aldori swordlord can make an attack of opportunity against an opponent who hits the swordlord with a melee attack, so long as the attacking creature is within the swordlord's reach. This ability replaces armor training 3.
Crane Riposte When you deflect an attack, you may make an attack of opportunity
Crane Style Penalty when fighting defensively reduced to -2 and dodge bonus increases by 1.
Crane Wing May deflect one attack per round while fighting defensively or using total defense
Dazzling Display (Aldori dueling sword) Intimidate check to demoralize can affect those within 30' who see you.
Defensive Parry +5 (Ex) +1 bonus to AC against melee attacks after making a full attack.
Disarming Strike (Ex) At 5th level, when an Aldori swordlord successfully disarms an opponent using an Aldori dueling sword, the swordlord also deals normal damage to the target, but without the normal Strength bonus to damage. This ability replaces weapon training 1.
Display Weapon Prowess +5 (Ex) Bonus to Dazzling Display, perf combat, & dueling parry and resolve.
Evasion (Ex) If you succeed at a Reflex save for half damage, you take none instead.
Fate's Favored Increase luck bonuses by 1.
Fuse Style (2 styles) (Ex) At 1st level, a master of many styles can fuse two of the styles he knows into a more perfect style. The master of many styles can have two style feat stances active at once. Starting a stance provided by a style feat is still a swift action, but whe
Gloves of dueling These supple gloves grant the wearer a +4 bonus to her CMD against disarm attacks, attempts to sunder her wielded weapons, and effects that cause her to lose her grip on her weapons (such as grease). The wearer doesn't drop held weapons when panicked or stunned. If the wearer has the weapon training class feature and is using an appropriate weapon, her weapon training bonus increases by +2.
Greater Saving Slash (Ex) 50% chance to reduce melee crit damage to normal w/dueling sword. (25% ranged)
Hurtful Make melee attack against creature you have just demoralized as free action.
Improved Disarm You don't provoke attacks of opportunity when disarming.
Improved Unarmed Strike Unarmed strikes don't cause attacks of opportunity, and can be lethal.
Panache (Ex) Gain a pool of points that are spent to fuel deeds, regained on light/piercing crit/killing blow.
Power Attack -4/+8 You can subtract from your attack roll to add to your damage.
Quick runner's shirt (1/day) As swift action, take an extra move action to move on your turn.
Ring of feather falling Feather fall activates if you fall more than 5 ft.
Seducer's bane +5 to save vs enchantment, if save then caster believes you failed.
Shatter Confidence (Ex) Intimidate to suppress morale bonuses on target after crit, disarm, repos, sunder, or if shaken.
Slashing Grace (Aldori dueling sword) Treat chosen weapon as 1-handed piercing weapon and can had Dex instead of Str to dmg.
Stagger-proof boots (1/day) Stand up from prone w/o AoO. Move up to 30 ft. as immediate action 1/day.
Steel Net (Ex) When fighting defensively as a full-round action with an Aldori dueling sword, the swordlord's penalties on all attacks in a round are reduced by 2, and the dodge bonus to AC is increased by 2 for the same round.
Stunning Fist (3/day, DC 16) You can stun an opponent with an unarmed attack.
Swarmbane clasp Weapon/natural att deal full dam to swarms, and immune to the distraction ability of swarms.
Swashbuckler Finesse At 1st level, a swashbuckler gains the benefits of the Weapon Finesse feat with light or one-handed piercing melee weapons, and she can use her Charisma score in place of Intelligence as a prerequisite for combat feats. This ability counts as having
Violent Display Use Dazzling Display as immediate action after critical hit or sneak attack.
Weapon Training (Blades, Heavy) +4 (Ex) +4 Attack, Damage, CMB, CMD with Heavy Blades
Weapon Training (Blades, Light) +3 (Ex) +3 Attack, Damage, CMB, CMD with Light Blades
Galahad - Hero Lab has a Gestalt option?
Galahad, I'm already disinclined to allow prestige classes (see above), but putting the Aldori Swordlord Prestige class on top of the fighter archetype of the same name is not going to fly.
Galahad - Hero Lab has a Gestalt option?
Yes, it is a downloadable option. Searching for it on the site will get you instructions in downloading and installing it.
Cool! Downloaded. Anyone tell me where to find the Gestalt Option while in Hero Lab?
It is a checkbox when you are choosing character options. Once you have selected that, there will be a gestalt tab. The way it works if you take a level of gestalt, then the levels of the two other classes. Then you go to the gestalt tab and select the two classes you've taken so they gestalt together.
I assume you imported the download into Herolab already.
I found it, thanks. Hoping its more user friendly than it is as first glance.
You get used to it. Even if there's a fair bit of tedium involved, it's still a lot easier than making the character by hand.
Also ready to begin whenever. We may not have a strong arcanist as of yet, but hopefully we'll be okay.
Also, I don't know if you've looked, but I didn't bother to list all the mundane adventuring gear that Aramus has on him and his horse. If you want me to go through a list, I can do so, but I figured it'd be easier to avoid the tedium of picking out little things like that if it wasn't necessary.
At 13th level I'll assume you have the normal stuff (deluxe dungeoneering kit).
Legendary adventuring party kills lich-dragon-warlord in brilliant six hour battle and destroys his entire undead demon army. Then was found starved to death due to lack of mundane equipment, like trail rations.
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Galahad, I'm already disinclined to allow prestige classes (see above), but putting the Aldori Swordlord Prestige class on top of the fighter archetype of the same name is not going to fly.
They are made to go together. I realize I did it the most cheesy way :) If I do them as they are intended (i.e. on the same side of gestalt), would that be acceptable? That means I don't double up on defensive parry and I lose the fighter feats of levels 8-13.
Well I wont be able to do it tonight, but I think It would be neat to see how this guy fares when cranked up to eleven :)
He is an alchemist (mindchemist) bard (archivist), he is absolutely BRILLIANT as he adds his Int check to his knowledge skills twice and knows just about everything :P
He is also a mad bomber with really poor eyesight, high grade explosives and near nearsightedness go hand in hand it seems :P
I have a few questions about him tho,
1: can I take the Oblivious drawback without gaining an extra trait just because?
2: He has some troubles with the racial specific options :( Can I use any of the following?
He is a Human alchemist with a focus on bombs.
Alchemical Trapper is koblold only, but lets me place bombs on the ground as mines
Rocket Bombs are goblin only but can turn your bombs into missiles >:)
Lastly, Breadth of Experience is a dwarf only feat, but I had been using it on him and reflavoring it as College Experience.
Would it be ok if I used any of these? If not, I would probably take Racial Heritage: Goblin and get the rocket bomb discovery.
Next question. Firearms. The Explosive Missile discovery looks like a fun one. Are firearms allowed, and if so, how prevalent?
Question:
If I'm a Hunter/Shaman, can I somehow grant my animal companion the benefits of a my spirit? Ie, the familiar stats and abilities?
At 16th level, a Nature Shaman can do this as they get an animal companion then, so I was wondering if with Gestalt, you would allow me a way to do this at our level instead.
Almost done!
Just need to finish selecting the Summoners Spell, Finish the Eidolon, and some more equipment, and I am ready!