so, i want to play a race, but it's racials are +4 con, -2 dex, and -2 int. I want the class to be somewhat civilized and not a divine caster. 3pp is allowed.
Any interesting things i can do to not have horrible touch AC or play a barbarian? currently i'm sitting on multiclassing some levels of investigator (and just eating that -2 to int) with some ranger levels in an archetype that lose their casting.
we're using epic point buy (25 points) so i may be able to eat the malus points rather easily but i'll still be behind the rest of the party if I do.
I want him to be an intellectual or at least wise-ish, but still effective in melee.
Well, obviously you aren't going to be doing archery, finessing, or intelligence-based spellcasting. Aside from those things, with 25 point buy you can easily eat those penalties and do whatever you want.
Don't pidgeon-hole the Barbarian, or any other class for that matter. There are many ways to play any class, even when not being tongue-in-cheek about it. You the player decide who your character is, a class just decides what abilities he has. That's not to say you must play a barbarian, rather don't let stereotypes or preconceptions prevent you from enjoying a class the way you want to enjoy it.
Barbarian/Alchemist is actually a very nice multi-class combo; they have a lot of synergy together, with rage and mutagen working practically being made for each other. Extracts and discoveries give the barbarian exactly the kinds of powers the class lacks, while barbarian offers some extra muscle and proficiencies that the alchemist craves.
isn't a witch doctor a divine caster, and bloodrager a barbarian with magic...? just saying.
isn't a witch doctor a divine caster, and bloodrager a barbarian with magic...? just saying.
No, witches are arcane casters.
Don't pidgeon-hole the Barbarian, or any other class for that matter. There are many ways to play any class, even when not being tongue-in-cheek about it. You the player decide who your character is, a class just decides what abilities he has. That's not to say you must play a barbarian, rather don't let stereotypes or preconceptions prevent you from enjoying a class the way you want to enjoy it.
mostly it's rage powers that make me not want a barbarian, and rage, that AC penalty is already there with the -2 dex, rage abilities generally just aren't good for my thematic idea, they don't give me abilities that are good in combat but are mechanically more gentlemanly than other options. I want to stay away from bloodlines or other things(such as most of the good rage powers) that lend themselves to being overtly monstrous or supernatural.
though i do prefer alchemy for buffing over normal casting, which is why i was thinking of investigator.
maybe that int based fighter archetype with an investigator?
isn't a witch doctor a divine caster, and bloodrager a barbarian with magic...? just saying.No, witches are arcane casters.
oh witch doctor is a witch archetype? do not know why that wasn't the first thing i thought the archetype was for. (I don't really ever have interest in playing witches)
edit: nah not really wanting a familiar, oh and the racial orc archetype is not likely for my GM to say yes to for a 3pp race.
What about looking into the psionic book? Many psionic classes don't use int, heck, the soul knife isn't keyed to any specific stat. And any of the classes can be role played as civilized.
meh I guess I should just mention my back story (though I am reading the soulknife)
Race: Tarrasqueling (from this)
Goals: kill the Tarrasque, semi-archaeologist looking specifically into how ancient civ's delt with the Tarrasque (which is his pull into the group)
Spent most of his early life alone, eventually integrated into Human society as a guide in the wild, later moved into the archaeology aspect after he learned exactly what he was and how much of a threat his "parent" was.
by the game time he's spent the majority of his life in civilization as an archeologist/researcher.
the backstory is vague because i'm still testing the waters on how effective i can make this.
P.S. don;t want to bard, just did a bard. sad i know.
Yo, what you want to be is a heavy armour using Cavalier or Samurai. I personally really like the Sword Saint archetype. Take your Dex to 10 and wear heavy armour.
If you want an arcane caster... You could do worse than going Skald. A pretty good choice actually.
Any class can be turned into a researcher just by taking a rank in one of the knowledge skills. That part is really easy to write into a background. You can also take traits to hep with that aspect of the background.
So from there, just figure out which mechanics you want and then change up the fluff (if necessary) to fit the concept you want.
Edit: taking the adopted trait (humans) and then scholar of ruins will really fit into your character background as both an adopted character and an archeologist/researcher.
I don't like the monk, but a high strength/con/wis monk seems to meet all your criteria while working with the stat mods given.
A bard gets enough skill points to not need high int and gets bonuses to knowledges. Touch AC won't be amazing, true.
I decided on 2 levels of ranger and 3 levels of lore warden (we're starting at level 5) as i feel this had the best mix of what i was looking for with mechanics that matched what i envisioned.