can a level one barbarian take the extra rage powers feat?

[uzaithemonki]

Also, could a blood rager?

[Cap. Darling]

Nope and never.

[claudekennilol]

You wouldn't let a primalist bloodrager take it?

[BigP4nda]

Extra Rage Power wrote:

You have unlocked a new ability to use while raging.

Prerequisite: Rage power class feature.

Benefit: You gain one additional rage power. You must meet all of the prerequisites for this rage power.

Special: You can gain Extra Rage Power multiple times.

[Canthin]

uzaithemonki wrote:

Also, could a blood rager?

You have to have the feature before you can qualify for any feats that require the feature.

Just because you will have a Magus Arcana at 3rd level, doesn't mean you can take Extra Arcana (that requires you have the Magus Arcana ability) at first level.

Since Barbarian doesn't get the feature "Rage Power" until 2nd level, he can't take the feat Extra Rage power until 2nd level.

This also affects Archetypes that postpone when they get their first "thing". Like the Magus example, if they were a Bladebound Magus, they don't get Magus Arcana until 6th level since they gave up the feature gained at 3rd level for the Black Blade, so they can't take Extra Arcana until 6th level.

[claudekennilol]

what about this line "Bloodrage counts as the barbarian's rage class feature for the purpose of feat prerequisites, feat abilities, magic item abilities, and spell effects"

[Jeff Merola]

claudekennilol wrote:

what about this line "Bloodrage counts as the barbarian's rage class feature for the purpose of feat prerequisites, feat abilities, magic item abilities, and spell effects"

Bloodrage counts as Rage. What it doesn't count as is Rage Powers, which is a separate class feature from Rage.

[BigP4nda]

claudekennilol wrote:

what about this line "Bloodrage counts as the barbarian's rage class feature for the purpose of feat prerequisites, feat abilities, magic item abilities, and spell effects"

rage is not rage power they are two separate class features

EDIT: jeff beat me to it, but yea what he said

[Claxon]

What everyone else said, rage powers are there own power. A barbarian can't take them before level 2, which is when he recieves the rage power class feature. The earliest he could take extra rage power would be at barbarian 2, though you don't get a feat at character level 2 so you would wait till third level.

As for the bloodrager, bloodrage counts as rage. The base bloodrager never gets rage powers. The primalist archetype says you don't qualify for extra rage powers feat.

Quote:

Primal Choices: At 4th level and every 4 levels thereafter, a primalist can choose to take either his bloodline power or two barbarian rage powers. If the primalist chooses rage powers, those rage powers can be used in conjunction with his bloodrage, and his bloodrager level acts as his barbarian level when determining the effect of those bloodrage powers and any prerequisites. Any other prerequisites for a rage power must be met before a primalist can choose it. This ability does not count as the rage power class feature for determining feat prerequisites and other requirements. This ability alters the bloodline class feature.