Potion Glutton, Accelerated Drinker, Tiefling with Prehensile Tail


Rules Questions

Silver Crusade

I've a question and was thinking of a combo that would be a fast potion drinker. I looked thru the books and came up with a Tiefling with prehensile tail. Basically you carry a potion with your tail and then with Accelerated Drinker trait and Potion Glutton feat can you drink the potion as a swift action or can it be argued that the potion is being carried by the tail and isn't in your hands like Accelerated Drinker requires it to be?

Sovereign Court

It has to be in your hands at the beginning of the round, tail doesn't count. However, it's still useful to have, you just use it like this;

Before combat: carry a potion in your hands.

Combat starts (no surprise): do something as a Standard, drink another potion as a Move with Accelerated Drinker, then use your tail as a Swift to draw another potion in your hand.

Second round: drink the potion you tail-fetched into your hands the previous round.

As for the Potion Glutton feat: it doesn't really combine with the Tail, because you can't spend a Standard or Move action as a Swift action. There's no way I know of to perform more than one Swift action in a round.

Basically, Tail+Accelerated is good, Potion Glutton is good, but having both is redundant.

Grand Lodge

The Grasping Tail feat is required in order to explicitly carry objects with the tail, rather than just retrieving them.

That said I have heard of this combo being allowed, even in PFS.


#1 you need the tail feat to actually hold items with your tail.
#2 you can't manipulate items other than hold.

Since a potion has to be in hand at start of your turn, you'd have to put it in your hand at the end of your last round.

Silver Crusade

Ascalaphus does getting the potion with your tail and putting it into your hand fall under one free action with prehensile tail?

Sovereign Court

The whole thing that the tail does is fetch an item AND put it into your hand as a Swift action. It's quite unclear if you can just hold it in your tail.


Ascalaphus wrote:
The whole thing that the tail does is fetch an item AND put it into your hand as a Swift action. It's quite unclear if you can just hold it in your tail.

It's in the rules for Grasping Tail + prehensile tail.

"you can hold such objects with your tail, though you cannot manipulate them with your tail (other than to put them in your hand)."

Grand Lodge

graystone wrote:
Ascalaphus wrote:
The whole thing that the tail does is fetch an item AND put it into your hand as a Swift action. It's quite unclear if you can just hold it in your tail.

It's in the rules for Grasping Tail + prehensile tail.

"you can hold such objects with your tail, though you cannot manipulate them with your tail (other than to put them in your hand)."

Would you allow a tiefling with the tail alternate racial trait plus grasping tail be allowed to use a metamagic rod since to use a rod you only need to hold it?

Silver Crusade

Be cool if you could use your tail to toss flasks like alchemist fire or other type flasks.


claudekennilol wrote:


Would you allow a tiefling with the tail alternate racial trait plus grasping tail be allowed to use a metamagic rod since to use a rod you only need to hold it?

It LITERALLY states "you can hold such objects with your tail". I can't see a reason NOT to follow the writing on the page and allow it.

Silver Crusade

Could you not use your tail to grab a flask and toss it on the adjacent square or can the tail only be used to grab its to hand to you? If you can would it be a free action?


poundpuppy30 wrote:
Could you not use your tail to grab a flask and toss it on the adjacent square

No, that isn't one of the allowed actions. At best (Grasping Tail + Prehensile Tail) you can pick up unattended items within 5' and stowed objects. You have the option to hold those items or put them in your hand. That's it.

Liberty's Edge

Just for fluff, I claim my tiefling's rapid reload+crossbow mastery works because he's using his tail to help manipulate the crossbow and ammunition.


Just for fluff I put my Mutation Warrior's Tentacle on his butt and claim it is a prehensile tail. If you wanted to drink potions Vestigial Arm might work out better since it specifically has a "hand". Alchemists can make potions, so one who can also drink them super fast might be amusing.


graystone wrote:
poundpuppy30 wrote:
Could you not use your tail to grab a flask and toss it on the adjacent square
No, that isn't one of the allowed actions. At best (Grasping Tail + Prehensile Tail) you can pick up unattended items within 5' and stowed objects. You have the option to hold those items or put them in your hand. That's it.

If it's something you're immune [or at least sufficiently resistant] to, there's no reason you couldn't withdraw it with the tail and drop it as a free action right in your own square though, if there's a practical benefit to doing so.

EDIT: huh, micronecro. Guess that's what I get for only paying attention to the year of the last post when replying to threads.


An Alchemal Tentacle or Vestigial Arm would do it. Maybe Mage Hand?

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