So, can I make a paladin of Erecura in PFS?

[Rei]

I'm not asking if I should, I'm asking if I can. She's LN, after all.

[zefig]

...Huh. Is she a legal choice to worship in general according to Additional Resources? If so, I think RAW you'd be okay, although the concept is weird as hell...

[Jeff Morse]

Tough one due to her ties to Dis. Legal? Is she on a list somewhere that legalizes her, like Inner Sea guide?

[Rei]

Yep, she's listed as legal from Inner Sea Gods.

Also, nice pun, Zak.

[RainyDayNinja]

Ooh, Sacred Servant paladin with the Trickery domain. Interesting...

[UllarWarlord]

I can see it now - planar allying fiends. As a paladin.

I approve vociferously.

[Imbicatus]

If she is legal from ISG, then yes. After all, there are several paladins who worship Dispater's son, why not his wife?

[Starglim]

Then you just need to determine whether she's legal for worship in PFS. Erecura is listed in the Appendix of Inner Sea Gods and is not a daemon harbinger, great old one, infernal duke, malebranche, nascent demon lord, orc deity, outer god, qlippoth lord, or whore queen, so that would be "yes". I don't know what a paladin of mind reading and trickery would do with her time, but that's a role-playing issue.

UllarWarlord wrote:

I can see it now - planar allying fiends. As a paladin.

I came across a similar question recently. Since that is an evil act and it would be difficult to claim that she has repented of it when she has it as a class feature, she'd only be doing it once.

[Rei]

Starglim wrote:

I don't know what a paladin of mind reading and trickery would do with her time, but that's a role-playing issue.

"Oh, honey, please open up your mind to me. I just want to make sure you're not having any naughty thoughts!"

[Nefreet]

A mind-reading Paladin seems perfect.

Especially since most dump Wisdom and have atrocious Sense Motive skills.

[strangepork]

This came up with calistria and another god for me too - does the paladin have to be LG, or match the LN of the god? i know thats an idiotic question but i cant seem to find a definitive answer since most refs assume too much about the choice of god.

[Sniggevert]

strangepork wrote:

This came up with calistria and another god for me too - does the paladin have to be LG, or match the LN of the god? i know thats an idiotic question but i cant seem to find a definitive answer since most refs assume too much about the choice of god.

A paladin HAS to be LG.

In PFS, the deity a paladin worships HAS to be within one step of LG, so only LG, NG, or LN deities need apply.

[David Neilson]

A Paladin in PFS must be LG, however you do not need to be in complete lock step with your diety. So a LN diety like Abadar can, and does have Paladins. Just like a NG diety like Sarenrae can and does have Paladins. Admittedly you are going to be a bit of an odd duck Paladin, but its not like there are no Hellknight Paladins.

[strangepork]

thanks

[Ascalaphus]

SO it looks like by RAW you could be a paladin of Erecura. However, since there's like almost no information printed on Erecura (a paragraph in a spread on Moloch, and some info in a Kobold Quarterly article), there's no specific paladin code.

So you default to the standard paladin code, which says (among other things) "thou shalt not lie", nor do any other overly clever things that would be considered dishonorable. And that makes a very poor fit for the goddess of subtlety.

[Woran]

Ascalaphus wrote:

SO it looks like by RAW you could be a paladin of Erecura. However, since there's like almost no information printed on Erecura (a paragraph in a spread on Moloch, and some info in a Kobold Quarterly article), there's no specific paladin code.

So you default to the standard paladin code, which says (among other things) "thou shalt not lie", nor do any other overly clever things that would be considered dishonorable. And that makes a very poor fit for the goddess of subtlety.

However, if you do manage to pull that off it will be a great feat of roleplay ingenuity!

[Chris Mortika]

The rule is "any god which a paladin worships must be LN, LG, or NG." The converse, that every LN, LG, or NG god is a good candidate for paladins, is not necessarily true.

Having said that, I think Woran is right. Erecura may not be a good choice for a paladin's patron, but the OP is certainly welcome to take that as a challenge.

[Uncle Ook]

Ascalaphus wrote:

SO it looks like by RAW you could be a paladin of Erecura. However, since there's like almost no information printed on Erecura (a paragraph in a spread on Moloch, and some info in a Kobold Quarterly article), there's no specific paladin code.

So you default to the standard paladin code, which says (among other things) "thou shalt not lie", nor do any other overly clever things that would be considered dishonorable. And that makes a very poor fit for the goddess of subtlety.

The Aes Sedai from The Wheel of Time and the Sidhe from The Dresden Files would likely dispute that there can be no subtlety when you speak no word that isn't true.

[Ascalaphus]

I wouldn't really call Dresden's Sidhe paladins, though. They might have the lawful part down :P

[Uncle Ook]

Ascalaphus wrote:

I wouldn't really call Dresden's Sidhe paladins, though. They might have the lawful part down :P

clearly not. I suppose it ends up if the GM considers deliberately deceiving someone with carefully worded truths is an evil act.

There's also the example of Carrot Ironfouderson, who's as close to a Paladin as any on the Discworld, and yet can twist a person's expectations with the truth and what's left unsaid.

[Dragnmoon]

Ascalaphus wrote:

SO it looks like by RAW you could be a paladin of Erecura. However, since there's like almost no information printed on Erecura (a paragraph in a spread on Moloch, and some info in a Kobold Quarterly article), there's no specific paladin code.

So you default to the standard paladin code, which says (among other things) "thou shalt not lie", nor do any other overly clever things that would be considered dishonorable. And that makes a very poor fit for the goddess of subtlety.

Just a reminder, the Paladin codes of Golarion Gods don't replace the Normal Paladin code, the Deity Paladin Codes are an addition to the normal Paladin Code. So by default all Paladin follow the normal Paladin code no matter what deity they have.