Houses are overpowered.


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Gobo Horde wrote:
we already baned houses here.

You have a house-bane weapon? Good strategy.


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Lathiira wrote:

If it worships Zon-Kuthon, is it a House of Pain?

What if it worships Desna? Is it then a Dream House?

Worships Saranrae: House of the Rising Sun


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JoeJ wrote:
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Thomas Long 175 wrote:

I hate their trample ability.

I mean seriously, have you ever had a house land on you? Its like insta death attack!

And if you're unlucky enough to be a Witch, you automatically take double damage.

Double damage? You mean you die twice?

Yes. It takes out the witch and the witch's contingent spell resurrection/reincarnate/psionic revivify. This includes the bonded witches familiar that was not actually trampled by said house.

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Kimera757 wrote:
The fiendish template gives them spell resistance too, right? The things have loads of hit points and spells just wash off them. And just think of the huge size bonuses to grapple. Houses aren't remotely balanced.
It's entirely possible that you'd end up with a House of Fire.
Hey, if it's already going House of Fire 1, you may as well prestige a bit.

Wait... so now we've got an infernal bard house that's just that much better at making everyone broken, sticky, and confused?... That is the Real BBEG, gentlepersons... and one that no one knew needs vanquishing.


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countchocula wrote:
Lets ban houses

Druids usually do.

And now I realize it's to cut down on rivals.


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Artemis Moonstar wrote:

I just wanna say...

My players are going to hate you guys. They already hate the boards for inspiring me to stat out a creature that uses scent on light and eats it (thus leading to lots of dark vision)...

Now they're going to be terrified that every house, store, hut, barn, and warehouse is going to actually try and eat them. They're already terrified of Gazebos (Animate Object + Haunt rules + other home brew stuff = FUN!)....

I can see it now... A Large sized dog house, with legs, ears, and a tail. The entry-way full of adamantine teeth. It's innards? Full of Gelatinous Cube, and the floating remains of those who have disturbed it's master's grounds. The Master, of course, being the Colossal mansion that houses the soul of it's creator's wife, whom died during the construction, and until the still-beating eldritch heart of the Chelaxian opera diva is dug out of the foundation and destroyed, the house shall return every time it's destroyed, serving as both body and phylactery for the vile temptress. (Colossal house, lich archetype, siren's song).

Edit: Every night, the mansion sings soothing songs to the bones of it's pre-death lover, as it did in life, who's corpse rests still in the master bedroom. The song manifests as a haunting lullaby, spreading out from it's hilltop into the town below. Every night, at least one villager is drawn to the mansion while they sleep, wherein they disappear behind the closing, ivy-choked gates... [/edit]

*wrings hands evilly* Heh heh heh......

Eeeeeeeeeeeexcellent.


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We have "Advice" wherein all sorts of threads exist concerning various OP builds and items and creatures ...

Then we have an entire section devoted to just House rules ...


Matthew Downie wrote:
Gobo Horde wrote:
we already baned houses here.
You have a house-bane weapon? Good strategy.

I thought in Canada we use banishment spells. It only works on fiendish houses, though...


Don't crime syndicates handle everything in House?


Kayerloth wrote:

We have "Advice" wherein all sorts of threads exist concerning various OP builds and items and creatures ...

Then we have an entire section devoted to just House rules ...

Good point--

you could House rule in a Faerun game that someone could destroy Ao. HOUSES ARE STRONGER THAN THE GODS!


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It's no use trying to nerf or balance houses.
Ever been to Vegas?

The house always wins


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Sereinái wrote:
The house always wins

At least until you bring it down...


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Artemis Moonstar wrote:
Sereinái wrote:
The house always wins
At least until you bring it down...

You just HAD to bring the Big Bad Wolf into the picture didn't ya?

Proving yet again there's always something bigger and badder out there.


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Make sure you go to an alchemical house. Cast Charm Structure. Get all your brews on the House. Profit.


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Watch out though; some houses have PCs of their own under their control. They are called House Parties - they made a bunch of movies on the subject back in the 90's.

Also check for vermin; houseflies are no joke.

Some of them can be beneficial though. There is a famous physician house that they made a tv show about so the construction may provide healing.

Oh and finally check the elevation of the place before you attack. Hill House is notoriously haunted and evil.


Make sure your house isn't in the middle of the street.

You can marry your house, but make sure she's a Brick House. (ladies stay away from the male Brickhouse it's not that attractive.)


Some of these creatures are aberrant, like mimics and such. They are known as the dreaded house coat. Their main attack seems to target females and causes aging and general frumpiness while imparting a near-euphoric sense of comfort

Some have familiars: house cats

Animals often have such intense reactions of fear from these creatures they flee at all costs until they are mind controlled; this is known as the animal being House Broken


Kayerloth wrote:
Artemis Moonstar wrote:
Sereinái wrote:
The house always wins
At least until you bring it down...

You just HAD to bring the Big Bad Wolf into the picture didn't ya?

Proving yet again there's always something bigger and badder out there.

Inb4 "wolves are overpowered"!


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You all are crazy to be worried about Houses! It's the ground under them that is the most dangerous!

I'm sure you've heard it's not the fall that kills you, it's the ground at the end that gets you. And haven't you ever heard of a Land Grab?

From beneath you it devours!


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Thomas Long 175 wrote:

I hate their trample ability.

I mean seriously, have you ever had a house land on you? Its like insta death attack!

I have seen video of one killing a witch dead.

Only thing visable was legs and shooes.

I dont know why the halflings were dancing and singing.


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While houses may seem overpowered, someone must found an easy way to kill them, otherwise there wouldn't be so much house wine.


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...would this make House Boats the Perfect Pirate Platform?


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Never trust what a house says, they typically have more than one story.


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*cough cough*

Don't forget the lycanthropes ... ware-houses.

A house isn't overpowered. There's a good foundation for it in the rules.


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You never want to go swimming in a lake, for the lake houses the rotting remains of the Lake House's victims... Some Lake Houses store their undying hockey-mask murdering minions in the lake. And sometimes, those rotting remains happen to reanimate.

Secluded cabins are also a bad idea. It seems every secluded cabin out in the middle of the woods across a bridge has their own copy of the Necronomicon.

Also... Are we sure the White House isn't a ghost with a sheet over it's head?

If you get sick while in a cabin, it's probably the Cabin's fever.


Artemis Moonstar wrote:

You never want to go swimming in a lake, for the lake houses the rotting remains of the Lake House's victims... Some Lake Houses store their undying hockey-mask murdering minions in the lake. And sometimes, those rotting remains happen to reanimate.

Secluded cabins are also a bad idea. It seems every secluded cabin out in the middle of the woods across a bridge has their own copy of the Necronomicon.

Also... Are we sure the White House isn't a ghost with a sheet over it's head?

If you get sick while in a cabin, it's probably the Cabin's fever.

Based on the current resident, I don't think so... /noracist


Makes me think I should've gotten into the siding business. Some house dressing might help stay on their good side.


Zathyr wrote:
Makes me think I should've gotten into the siding business. Some house dressing might help stay on their good side.

Especially if the house took the ranch archetype.


Some lunatics love adding the acrobat archetype to houses. Flip this House.


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A note to GMs, do not let allow houses to be used as a PC race, everyone will want to play one and then you will have a house party.

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