
Kolokotroni |

This is really cool news. And Shockingly Timely. For my next campaign I was debating between running Iron Gods and doing a Kingdom Building Cheliax rebellion starting off with where my group left WestCrown at the end of our Council of Thieves game.
Hmmm...its a good thing I know that the adventure paths are planned long in advance, because otherwise, I'd wonder if Owen Stephens brought his 'Things Kolo Wants in rpg products' mind reading device that he used all these years to pick genius guides and put it to work at his new job...though, its still a suspicious coincidence.
Iron Gods made me restart my AP subscription. Hells Rebels will probably make me keep it up for at least the 12 months.

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Also... issue 100 will be in an adventure set in chelliax... you know that question paizo staff always refuse to answer up front in 'Secrets of Golarion' panels? Let the rampant speculation begin! I call he's alive and imprisoned by asmodeus in order to gain a foothold on the mortal world.
Who?

Joseph Wilson |

Kolokotroni wrote:Also... issue 100 will be in an adventure set in chelliax... you know that question paizo staff always refuse to answer up front in 'Secrets of Golarion' panels? Let the rampant speculation begin! I call he's alive and imprisoned by asmodeus in order to gain a foothold on the mortal world.Who?
I'm guessing they're referring to Aroden.

Kolokotroni |

Rysky wrote:I'm guessing they're referring to Aroden.Kolokotroni wrote:Also... issue 100 will be in an adventure set in chelliax... you know that question paizo staff always refuse to answer up front in 'Secrets of Golarion' panels? Let the rampant speculation begin! I call he's alive and imprisoned by asmodeus in order to gain a foothold on the mortal world.Who?
Yes, I am talking about Aroden... sorry, I thought I was being obvious. I actually checked the ones i have on my ipod (3 years worth) of the recordings Know Direction has done of Paizocon and Gencon recordings of the "Secrets of Golarion" panel. And I kid you not, they start each panel, with High, My name is (a couple staffers including james jacobs introduce themselves) and then almost immediately someone chimes in with 'Yes we know how Aroden died, no we arent going to tell you'.
Pathfinder Issue 100 will be the 4th installment of an adventure path based around a chellaxian rebellion. It couldnt be a more perfect time to reveal something about what happened to Aroden.

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Council of Thieves was always a stronger AP than it was made out to be. The title of the AP was the worst thing about it, as it engendered an expectation in players that the AP itself did not deliver on. Shadows over Westcrown might have been a better title.
This seems more in keeping with a true sequel to the real plot of Council of Thieves. And in the sense that #100 is a sequel to the beginning of the Pathfinderized portion of Pathfinder AP, I'm good with that.
I do wish that it was more to do with Molthune, but I see this as more of a northern independence movement that if successful, will have no real impact upon Cheliax itself. La plus ca change... I get the necessity, but, doesn't mean I have to like that aspect of it.

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I wonder what the victory condition for this could be? I realize that the endings of APs are not generally canon, but there is still a reason they have tended toward 'prevent villain from upsetting the status quo. Does anyone actually think that issue 6 will involve unseating the House of Thrune?
*crosses fingers for Abrogail having the Celestial/Martyred bloodline*

Kolokotroni |

I wonder what the victory condition for this could be? I realize that the endings of APs are not generally canon, but there is still a reason they have tended toward 'prevent villain from upsetting the status quo. Does anyone actually think that issue 6 will involve unseating the House of Thrune?
I am hoping as much, and if it isnt, nothing is stopping me from doing that in my home game. I kind of wanted to do it after council of theives but it seemed like more then I was preprared to do having basically just started in pathfinder, with relatively few 'pathfinder' resources to help me. With a much more mature game, and alot more experience in pathfinder and in golarion, I'd be much more comfortable in taking that on.

Cthulhudrew |

So, this is supposed to be a non-traditional AP, right?
No, they've noted that this and Giantslayer are both more traditional. They don't always do something experimental.
That said, this doesn't sound to me like something that would lend itself well to the "dungeon-delve" sort of adventure style, so it will likely be different from Giantslayer in that respect.

Cthulhudrew |
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I wonder what the victory condition for this could be? I realize that the endings of APs are not generally canon, but there is still a reason they have tended toward 'prevent villain from upsetting the status quo'. Does anyone actually think that issue 6 will involve unseating the House of Thrune?
It does occur to me, though, that with some of the endings of these APs, there would be a very different Golarion. While I know that there is no plan to do any kind of "revised" campaign setting with advanced timeline (which I like, and am not in any way advocating), it might be kind of cool to see some kind of optional "what if...?" product that showcased a post-AP Golarion.