I just bought a half dozen PT novels and my 11 year old son wants to read them before I have gotten to them. Are there any I should withhold due to adult content?
For context I don't let him watch R-rated movies or read Game of Thrones.
Any advice would be great. Thanks in advance.
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Honestly, I would suggest you read any of them before letting him read them. Each parent and child are different and what one person doesn't even notice another may find particularly offensive. These are action/adventure novels and as such are full of the action and adventure of adults, not children.
I've read Winter Witch, and I'd peg it around PG-13 for violence. I haven't read any of the others, but I've heard most of them skirt a PG-13/R rating.
I totally suggest that you read the books first yourself before handing them off; everyone handles things differently, and you're the best judge of what you think your kid can handle.
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Necronomicon? Sure, just make sure he reads it cover to cover!
Disclaimer:This is imperfect rating using an imperfect rating system and is all based upon my imperfect memory. I'm basing these ratings on my impression of the US MPAA rating system. I have written reviews of some of the novels, if I've reviewed a novel, trust the review over my ratings here.
It has been a few years since I read some of these books, but here goes:
-Prince of Wolves: PG-13, edging towards R for violence, gore and a sexual scene (read my review)
-Master of Devils: PG for violence
-Queen of Thorns: PG-13 for violence and sexual references
-King of Chaos: PG-13 edging close to R for violence and disturbing imagery (demons tend to pull things closer to R because they are what they are in Golarion)
-Plague of Shadows: PG for violence and some gruesome deaths (Read my review)
-Stalking the Beast: PG-13 for violence and some gruesome deaths
-The Winter Witch: PG for violence and some disturbing imagery
-The Worldwound Gambit: R for Demons, violence, disturbing imagery, pervasive demonic nastiness and Sexual reference (read my review)
-Blood of the City: PG-13 for violence (reviewed)
-Death's Heretic: PG for violence
-The Redemption Engine: I cannot comment as this is the one Tales novel I have not read yet! O_O
-Song of the Serpent: PG? PG-13? I don't remember this one very well. There's a troll that eats people...
-City of the Fallen Sky: PG for violence and sexual references
-Liar's Blade: PG-13 for violence and disturbing imagery
-Nightglass: R for torture references and disturbing imagery
-Called to Darkness: PG-13 for violence (the book opens with a really violent scene, then calms down to a standard level of fantasy violence)
-Pirate's Honor: PG for piratey violence
-The Wizard's Mask: Umm... PG-13? It has violence in it, I don't think there was any disturbing stuff in this book. I don't remember it well, I read it in the sleep deprived fog of bottlefeeding a new baby at night.
-The Dagger of Trust: PG for fantasy violence. It's about a bunch of bards on an adventure!
-Skinwalkers: R for extreme violence and disturbing imagery including cannibalism
-The Crusader Road: PG for violence
I think that's all of them so far. Really, though, you should read them before your child does. Only you can make the decision of what is and is not appropriate for your child to read. For the most part, I agree with most of the other posters above me. If your child is watching TV they can probably handle any of the PG or PG-13 books on the list.
Regarding language: Some people care about swearing others don't. Whether you care or not, language in the Pathfinder Tales seems to be kept to a PG rating. Character do and don't use the following words:
I recall reading the following words:damn, ass (and derivatives such as a-hole), hell, bastard, and the s-word.
I do not recall seeing any of the following words in the Pathfinder Tales books: pussy, the f-word, the c-word for female genitalia, or the b-word.
Note: if you think the way I wrote that was childish, it's because the forum edited my post and I thought it was clearer to use the childish references than to have a big list of symbols.
Necronomicon? Sure, just make sure he reads it cover to cover!
Stuff makes fer good smokes, too.
Thanks everyone for the great responses!
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Mostly agree with Itchy's scale, using that as a template I would add/amend based on my perspective the following (again, read them yourself):
Redemption Engine: PG-13 for violence and sexual orientation implications which may challenge some families
Wizard's Mask: PG, it was mostly a chase scene with no adult relationship development (the word breast might have appeared once?)
Pirate's Honor: PG-13 violence, there is some implied sexuality, inter species and also touches on prostitution as an enterprise
Don't let a kid anywhere near Skinwalkers or Worldwound Gambit, but I recommend them both for adult readers, Skinwalkers has awesome character development (maybe it is my Norse heritage, but it strangely hit my senses really well), and if you are a fan of caper/oceans 11 type stories WWG is the fantasy equivalent.
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I just bought a half dozen PT novels and my 11 year old son wants to read them before I have gotten to them. Are there any I should withhold due to adult content?
For context I don't let him watch R-rated movies or read Game of Thrones.
Any advice would be great. Thanks in advance.
perhaps a way to judge it is of course read it before but what type of computer games does your son play?
A lot of those are not exactly fluffy bunnies and flowers is it the violent content or the more "intimate" data you are concerned about
if your son is playing violent games on his pc that may help you judge??
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My friend
if you want an EXCELLENT series of books for your son to read try the Dernyi chronicles by Katherine Kurtz no sex but great storyline
it starts with "Dernyi Rising" and the final confrontation in the cathedral is spectacular - perhaps the best series I have ever read
The fact that the main character (Kelson Haldane)is 14 years old when he becomes king may also resonate with your son check out this for more info
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deryni_novels#The_Histories_of_King_Kelson
regards
Javin Swifthand (AKA Andy Mack from London (England)
Redemption Engine: PG-13 for violence and sexual orientation implications which may challenge some families
Implications? Those were outright statements. ;)
(Seriously, though, thank you to everyone for your awesome ratings! I'm going to start directing people who ask me this question to this thread!)
My friend
if you want an EXCELLENT series of books for your son to read try the Dernyi chronicles by Katherine Kurtz no sex but great storyline
it starts with "Dernyi Rising" and the final confrontation in the cathedral is spectacular - perhaps the best series I have ever read
The fact that the main character (Kelson Haldane)is 14 years old when he becomes king may also resonate with your son check out this for more info
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deryni_novels#The_Histories_of_King_Kelson
regards
Javin Swifthand (AKA Andy Mack from London (England)
Kurtz is a very under-rated and underappreciated author. Those were VERY good books. The Camber of Culdi series was a little slow for me, but Deryni Rising was fantastic.
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Obviously I agree!
Probably the Camber of Culdi series may be a bit slower as you have likely got to like Kelson Haldane and are comfortable with the characters in the chronicles of the Deryni
Another good trilogy to read within the Deryni Canon are "The Heirs of King Kelson"
the only book that might be a bit wary of (if your concerned about children reading it) is "The Kings Justice" from the Histories of King Kelson where some nuns have been raped and whilst all you read is them crying after the event Kelson gets to experience it through a direct psychic link with another Deryni it is not graphically displayed
Andy