what is foaming powder good for?


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ultimate equipment wrote:
Foaming Powder: When you add this 1-pound bag of green powder to a gallon of water, the two combine to form 50 cubic feet of thick green foam. Unless contained, in 1 round the foam fills a 5-foot-square to a depth of 2 feet. When multiple pounds of powder are used, the foam expands at a rate of one 5-foot square per round. Ground covered with the foam is treated as difficult terrain, but is otherwise harmless. After 1 hour, the foam hardens to form a buoyant material roughly the density of honeycomb. The cured foam is easy to cut, with hardness 0 and 5 hit points per foot of thickness. The cured foam breaks down over a few days, and even faster if exposed to water. Casting transmute mud to rock on uncured foam converts it into a soft, pumice-like stone (hardness 2, 5 hit points per inch of thickness).

So, this requires a 1 lb bag of powder, and a 9 lb jug of water to do anything.

You can make a 5 ft square difficult terrain. You could also use caltrops.

It takes an hour to cure. So, nothing to do in combat.

When it cures, it's buoyant, but it breaks down if exposed to water. So, I suppose you could make a little raft out of the stuff, just so long as you're sailing on a sea of liquid methane? Also, how buoyant exactly? Can my mounted, armored rider float on a sheet? How about a halfling?

Lastly, instant pumice. So, okay, here's a thing. You could in theory build a ship by building a mold of a ship, then filling the mold with foaming powder, and then transmuting the uncured goo into pumice (and this is better because normally you can't carve a solid block of natural pumice into a sailing ship, I guess). A 10th level druid can transmute 2 bags worth of foam into pumice with one cast of transmute mud to rock.

Here's the rub. Wood is twice as strong as pumice, and it still floats. What kind of structural integrity and/or buoyancy can you expect with a pumice boat? Also, how many cubic feet of wood does it take to build a boat anyway? How many bags/castings would you need?

uh....

In other words: what is foaming powder good for?

Scarab Sages

Packing hardware components?

Scarab Sages

Underwater smoke cloud?


Use it to fill cracks?

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It might make a decent raft if it only needs to last a few hours (it breaks down faster in contact with water, but only faster than 'a few days', which means still not that fast.)

Or use it to seal leaks or clog drains, if that somehow works in your favor.

Using it as a quick 'plaster cast' seems like it could be useful, too.

It's definitely a MacGuyver item, though. It isn't as obviously useful as, say, alchemist's fire.

Scarab Sages

Sabotaging a city water supply.
Vandalizing a fountain.
Hiding caltrops so you cannot carefully pick your way past them.
Hiding a pit.
Creating a cheap bridge to bypass a pit.
Creating a mold of an object to cast a copy.


Good way to automatically seal cracks in underwater structures or boat hulls. Layer the hull with a dozen bags of this stuff, then if any water leaks in, the crack is instantly bound up in foam. To find cracks, you simply need look around to see where the powder has turned into foam.


Imbicatus wrote:
Underwater smoke cloud?

I once used a Bag of Everlasting Dung for this exact reason.


How expensive is it?
If it's cheap then think of the pranks...


Ross Byers wrote:
Or use it to seal leaks or clog drains, if that somehow works in your favor.

Not even Mario, the most famous plumber ever, has ever needed to do any actual plumbing.

MurphysParadox wrote:
Good way to automatically seal cracks in underwater structures or boat hulls. Layer the hull with a dozen bags of this stuff, then if any water leaks in, the crack is instantly bound up in foam. To find cracks, you simply need look around to see where the powder has turned into foam.

Except it doesn't cure instantly, it takes an hour. I once read a Horatio Hornblower novel to find out what happens when you line the cargo hold of a ship with absorbent material (in his case, his hold was full of rice): the material disguised the fact there was a leak on the ship until too much water had gotten into the hold, and his ship sank very gently.

I like the idea of using it underwater, I bet it would work like encountering a hagfish...now if only we had a hagfish in the bestiary...


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I was thinking you could put a bunch of it under one side of a stuck ship in order to lift it up off the rocks and back into the water.


It doesn't take 1 hour to use, it takes 1 round.

Quote:
Unless contained, in 1 round the foam fills a 5-foot-square to a depth of 2 feet.

One hour is how long it takes to harden. But if you're using it in combat (to make difficult terrain) it's a round.

Also: it's great for pranks. "The ale here is good but it has too much of a head" *drop foaming powder into mug*


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...for throwing at water elementals? :P


Chucking into the froghemoth's maw before you run away?


oh god
the last two
i was thinking it could be used in conjunction with the geyser mode of the decanter of endless water to create far away difficult terrain and be horribly annoying to your enemies
hmm
id use it from my castle walls
nobody says it has to be in foam form to be useful
drop it onto the face of climbing enemies
i would equate it to concrete powdered, and a lungful of that stuff is deadly
especially without modern medicine
and then just for good measure, once they've got a god face-full/ lungful
hose em down with a few create waters
now they've got lungs full of foam


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Throw a fist full of it into your enemies' eyes! Watch as it gels and crusts their eyes shut. Lord forbid some of it gets caught in their throat. :D


Why am I suddenly filled with a dread certainty that none of the uses you get on this thread will be what the designer intended?

Not that that's a bad thing, it's just the nature of these forums. Which is awesome.


9.1 meter demarcation line for penalty kicks :)


Foam over a pit, then paint it and let enemies charge over it (ha! difficult terrain!). Line up some poisoned spikes, then foam and paint over it, the weight of the person should be enough for the spikes to poke through. In a hole descending to the underdark, fill the middle of the tunnel with foam, paint it/cover it to look like the bottom, then cut the rope short so anyone not spiderclimbing down THINKS they are safely at the bottom and let go of the rope...

Carve a custom fit camp chair for a tenth of the weight of a folding chair, likely twice as comfortable as well.
Place it in the bottom of a false bottom cup, convince your enemies they have rabies, and you happen to have a remove disease scroll (explosive runes) if they have the coins/information you desire.


Ravingdork wrote:
Throw a fist full of it into your enemies' eyes! Watch as it gels and crusts their eyes shut. Lord forbid some of it gets caught in their throat. :D

as a Dirty Trick enabler that's pretty good. Did the alchemy manual (or bastards of golarion) have any 'add-ons' you get for using an alchemical item during a dirty trick?

also, poison sand tube filled with foaming powder? yikes!


Why not poisoned foaming powder?


I know I'm coming to this thread a little late, but I'm looking for some more advice on exactly how this stuff works.

Like in the definition of of it, I'm just copying from Ohako's first post, "the two combine to form 50 cubic feet of thick green foam. Unless contained, in 1 round the foam fills a 5-foot-square to a depth of 2 feet. When multiple pounds of powder are used, the foam expands at a rate of one 5-foot square per round."

In pathfinder terms, exactly how many 5 foot squares is 50 cubic feet? and if you mix two of the packages together, the definition says it spreads faster, but wouldn't it also double the area that the foam could cover?


It says it fills a 5-foot square to a depth of two feet. 5 feet by 5 feet is 25 square feet, times 2 feet deep is 50 cubic feet.

For each pound of powder you use, you get to cover an extra square. The first round you cover one square, the second round you cover an adjacent square, the third round you cover another adjacent square, etc.


As soon as my character has a chance I'm going to buy foaming powder.


It's use is obvious. It's for selling to other, lower leveled adventurers. Just tell them it'll come in handy someday.


As a GM, you can have the BBEG pour this all over the floor of a hallway or room, then place a low grid over it. The Grid keep the powder from getting carried away by walking feet.

When the adventurers come a-calling, he can pull a cord to pour enough water to water into the hallway to put one gallon in each 5 foot square. Instant difficult terrain!


Got it, Thanks RumpinRufus

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