That does make it difficult to be a recurring guest star, and from an actor's perspective - a regular role is greater than a recurring guest role.
Not much difference given that the "new X-files" is only six episodes long.
Not much difference given that the "new X-files" is only six episodes long.
That does make it difficult to be a recurring guest star, and from an actor's perspective - a regular role is greater than a recurring guest role.
Yeah... that would be a bad career decision. X-files was great in its time... but it was one of those shows that went too long and got drug out so long that it died with a whimper... two movies later and it still doesn't register a heartbeat.
I don't predict that this relaunch is going to have the nostalgic effect that the producers are hoping for. Shouldn't give up a recurring role in a series that is throwing spinoffs around like they're candy!
Maybe we'll get lucky and this is just an earth 2 Firestorm!
I did some reading and it appears he will be in season 3, just not as Firestorm since Firestorm is going to be in Legends of Tomorrow, and Robbie Amell did not want to be or some such.
What don't you like about the new firestorm? That the guy is black? or that he's not Robbie Amell?
Part of the issue might be that He's not Jason Rush either
He's "Brand new guy made up for the TV show, even though we already introduced Jason last season"
I mean really
Stien
Robbie
Jason
Firestorm in the comics is 2 of those 3 depending on what era you are in.
but no, they gotta come up with a whole new character for some reason
I must have missed Jason in season 1... when was he shown?
He provided some exposition about the Firestorm project in a scene. That's about it as I recall.I must have missed Jason in season 1... when was he shown?
He had one maybe two scenes, would have been vey easy to replace the actor with a new one
Are we sure the new guy isn't just him with a new actor?
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Are we sure the new guy isn't just him with a new actor?
According to the article from Blastr I had linked on the previous page, the new guy is named Jay Jackson.
Chalk me up as another one perplexed as to (a)why they changed it so soon, and (b) not really happy about the so quick and sudden change, but f~%% it, I'll get over it, and (c) equally perplexed as to why they couldn't just make it Jason Rusch. He's been part of Firestorm for 11 years now. Why can't they just show established character's some respect?
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Are we sure the new guy isn't just him with a new actor?According to the article from Blastr I had linked on the previous page, the new guy is named Jay Jackson.
Chalk me up as another one perplexed as to (a)why they changed it so soon, and (b) not really happy about the so quick and sudden change, but f@&* it, I'll get over it, and (c) equally perplexed as to why they couldn't just make it Jason Rusch. He's been part of Firestorm for 11 years now. Why can't they just show established character's some respect?
May as well ask why Mr Terrific is Curtis Holt, instead of Michael in Arrow.
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Well, do you really think that Caitlyn wants her husband to be out there doing the superhero thing, now that he's back with her? Probably not. So they had to find someone else to be the other half for Firestorm, though like you, I'm not thrilled they created whole-cloth a new character to fill that role. But then again, it could be a result of temporal mechanics settling into a semblance of normalcy that he's no longer able to do it.
Also, Robbie's been talking up a live-action Batman Beyond movie, and that's something I've been dying to see. He could probably pull off being Terry McGinnis, but it would take getting the execs on board with it and he might not have the juice to do it.
Also, Robbie's been talking up a live-action Batman Beyond movie, and that's something I've been dying to see. He could probably pull off being Terry McGinnis, but it would take getting the execs on board with it and he might not have the juice to do it.
Seems a bit old for Terry. I can't really picture him trying to balance high school and super heroing.
Though my first Thought would be Clint Eastwood for old Bruce :D
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Eh, you could EASILY shift it to college rather than high school and not much would change. The school barely ever played into things.
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Actually, a lot of the character arcs only make sense with minors.Eh, you could EASILY shift it to college rather than high school and not much would change. The school barely ever played into things.
Like what? Terry goes from an irresponsible punk to a responsible defender of the righteous...that's not something you need a high schooler for.
Not very many other characters at the school had an arc. The telekinetic kid maybe?
The Resort requires minors.
That is an episode, not a character arc.
The Jokerz and Terminal don't really work in a college environment.
How so? Street gangs aren't exactly unheard of with members older than 18, and Terminal's whole deal was he needed to be the best at everything because his mom was a psycho, which works perfectly well with a college aged kid (perhaps even better as a freshman, he excelled in high school and was never challenged, but finally meets someone who can match him in Maxine when he hits college and SNAPS).
And, again, a single episode, not a character arc.
The relationships between Terry's friends and acquaintances (Dana, Max, Howard, Blade, Chelsea, Nelson, etc) don't really work in college.
How so?
Dana putting up with Terry for a decade and a half.
Considering she was IN college some time during those 15 years, I'm not sure why you think this makes your point.
The multiple times Terry's mother threaten his job with Mr Wayne doesn't work if he's an adult.
Hooray, a SINGLE plot point that recurs in the show that doesn't work, you finally found one. An insignificant one, and STILL not a charater arc, but one.
None of this affects the core of the series in any real way at all. You do realize we're talking about a movie adaptation, right? Not a blow-by-blow reenactment of an episodic series.
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The worst thing I feel a superhero story can do is alienate the supporting cast.
One of the things that separate Terry from the other Robins was that he still HAD a family. He had a mother he needed to make excuses for, he had a younger brother that was always in his stuff and messing with him. he had friends, dates, curfew, and a life in general. It was different from all the robins who tended to rotate between Costumed Robin... and Plainclothes kid upstairs waiting to turn into Costumed Robin.
He worked with Bruce as an assistant, but there was always this father/son kind of thing going on.
Yes, Terry was an irresponsible punk... who needed Bruce's mentorship as much as Bruce needed to 'get back in the game'.
Turning Terry from a kid to a full grown man changes the dynamic a LOT. It's no longer cool to have the mentor whispering in your ear what you need to do now. NOW the man should be able to make his own decisions. It's changing it from Batman/Robin to Batman/Nightwing.
Batman Beyond to me was a lot about Terry growing into his own kind of Man and His own kind of Batman. Aging him changes that a lot.
So...that episode!
OK, so that's what happened to Robbie...he can come back from that if needed.
I don't quite get the Henry -resolution?- I think the team NEEDS a physician.
And...since I watch/record Agents of SHIELD & Face Off I lost the 'reveal'. I *can* catch it on HULU once it's up, but meanwhile...could someone please spoiler it for me? Thanks.
I admit to being bothered by the discussion of secret identities and that the Atom Smasher's effects were sort of...rough, especially when compared to Gorilla Grodd last season. Otherwise I enjoyed the episode, and its obvious that the singularity weirdness is going to be how they bring back Wells and Eddie.
I was glad that "lone wolf" Flash was something done and dealt with in one episode, and not drawn out.
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My thoughts....
I like that they're (so far) keeping Stein around. Victor Garber is a great actor. If I recall correctly, however, he's going to the spin-off series, so probably won't be around often.
Didn't like them making Al Rothstein/Atom Smasher a villain. The growth effects could have been a bit smoother.
Although I liked them getting Henry cleared and released, I disagree with them sending him off. I can maybe see the point, if they don't want to grow the supporting cast too much more. Especially when they're already adding Patty Spivot and Jay Garrick.
I loved the whole Flash Day thing. That's always been, to me, a large part of the Flash - that his city loved and celebrated him.
I look forward to the further exploration of Cisco's abilities.
If (when) they do bring in another Dr. Wells (I've heard it might be an Earth 2 version), that could be interesting considering he'll look just like the dude who admitted to killing Nora Allen.
I love seeing Barry use his speed in some classic comic book moves - The arm whirlwinds, vibrating through the wall.
BRING BACK GRODD!!!
On another note.....spoiler tags are other people's friends.
...they had the Wells thing as an ongoing thing. He won't be around like that this season, so what will they replace that with?
Zoom.
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...vibrating through the wall...
I missed that bit. Where was it?
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...vibrating through the wall...I missed that bit. Where was it?
At least, that's what it looked like to me.....
If I recall correctly, They had to kill off that half of Firestorm because the actor couldn't be on the show. So that can't really be blamed on the writers.
I enjoyed it. Certainly wasn't on par with most of last season, but it wasn't any worse than some of the episodes from season 1 either. It was perfectly average.
Ok, so I caught the end on Hulu....hey for once I called it!!!!
As I said, I record several shows on Tuesday: Flash, Agents of SHIELD, FaceOff...and, for whatever reason our system has FaceOff on (recordong) channel 1 and the other 2 on (recording) channel 2: so...
Daughter and I are watching the end of Flash, with me praying the timer will not kick in until the end of the episode...I can stand not seeing previews of next week, but I want the whole show.
So....
Barry has just returned from seeing dad off, the head into the main part of Star Labs, everyone starts talking about how secure it is now...
My daughter says "I wonder who's standing behind them?" not really joking, she understands tropes; the mysterious voice announces itself, everyone turns to see the shadowy figure, Joe pulls his gun and threatens the invader...and we cut to FaceOff. Daughter states, for the record, that my commentary was ...excessive... I watch FaceOff, then immediately switch to the recordings and fast forward to Joe & Barry discussing dad, watch the whole 'we've never been so secure' again, and...it cut to Agents at the EXACT SAME POINT!!!!!
My commentary was even more excessive...
So, today I checked HULU, watched/FF to the right point, and finally saw the ending.
Yes!!!! Jay Garrick! All that was lacking was him taking Joe's gun, in true Flash style.
And the silly hat, of course.
I was pretty disappointed with the episode, overall. Them deciding the only way to defeat
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I agree on both points.
Yep, Kalshane, me too.
I hope that the 2 points raised in the above spoiler from They Kal me Shane don't mark a slide towards "gritty" for the Flash. I like that its all bubble gum and sunshine on this show. Its a nice contrast to the Arrowverse.
With Flash in the comics you always knew where you stood. He wasn't so all-powerful like Superman though so you didn't have as many megalo-maniac types trying to destroy the world. Instead you just had a hero who genuinely tried to make his city a better place and a bunch of rogues who grudgingly respected him. Heck, some even grew to like him or one even became a friend.
Arrow and gritty heroes like him, they're the kind of hero you like to READ about. Flash at his core though, he's the kind of hero you wanted to be.
I'm still not liking Iris though. I can't quite put my finger on it, but there's something... not ok there. Caitlin and Cisco continue to be JUST normal and conflicted to serve the role of the everyman/woman in the show so I really hope they don't get too far from that.
And then there's Jay...
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About Flash power levels... I kind of want to see Zoom do the nasty things with superspeed and molecular vibrations, and have Barry say "Yes I can do that, I choose not to."
Lex-in-Flash kicked most all of the League's butt in the DCAU and they pointed out that Wally was always holding back. Lex didn't have those qualms. Long before Clark's World of Cardboard speech. :-)
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About Flash power levels... I kind of want to see Zoom do the nasty things with superspeed and molecular vibrations, and have Barry say "Yes I can do that, I choose not to."
Lex-in-Flash kicked most all of the League's butt in the DCAU and they pointed out that Wally was always holding back. Lex didn't have those qualms. Long before Clark's World of Cardboard speech. :-)
Flash could easily kill the entire league before anyone could even react except superman. And then he could kill superman because he's faster.