Mythic Summoner


Rules Questions


I'm running for the first time a mythic adventure and I'm using a lv3 summoner. Yesterday my party become mythic, but I have some doubts about which mythic path I should choose.
My doubts are: if I become epic, my eidolon become epic too? So I should choose a mythic path for him too? Or exist some mythic power that empower him?

Sorry for my very bad english... I hope that my questions are clears


hmm... I'm not sure about making your eidelon mythic, I've purchased the Mythic adventures myself, but I haven't looked through it with the Eidelon in mind. That said, I'd suggest picking the Trickster mythic path, because the Trickster can eventually pick from any other mythic base classes powers.

Mythic Adventures page 46 wrote:

Path Dabbling (Su): Select one path ability from another

mythic path. You must meet any other requirements that
path ability has, including a minimum tier restriction.

I would also suggest you take the Archmage mythic class for its' abundant spell-casting boosting abilities, depending on what abilities you'd like boosted.

All in all, considering you're a Summoner class, I'd suggest you take either the Archmage mythic path or the Trickster path.


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I am not so sure about Trickster. Archmage is a good choice, but you should at least dabble in a path that lets you boost your eidolon with mythic goodies -- otherwise your eidolon will lag far behind you.

And no, your eidolon does not automatically become mythic too -- you have to expend some of your own path abilities and mythic feats to make him (sort of) mythic.


You can only pick Path Dabbling once. You can get one path ability from another mythic path, which is nice, but it's hardly picking your powers from any path.


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Frankly, I would go with Guardian as your mythic path -- it gives you access to the most eidolon boosting abilities. At 1st tier I would take Dual Path for one of the other paths, possibly Archmage -- but you should look over the list of abilities for each path to see what would be most useful to you personally.


Guardian and hierophant have abilities that allow you to endow your eidolon with mythic abilities. I suggest taking those depending on your theme. (or both as people have pointed out before)

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bertox200 wrote:

I'm running for the first time a mythic adventure and I'm using a lv3 summoner. Yesterday my party become mythic, but I have some doubts about which mythic path I should choose.

My doubts are: if I become epic, my eidolon become epic too? So I should choose a mythic path for him too? Or exist some mythic power that empower him?

Sorry for my very bad english... I hope that my questions are clears

Your Eidolon does not become mythic by default but there are mythic feats and path abiliies tailored to class companions like your eidolon.


Guardian has abilities that helps eidolons, and the marshal path has abilities that help allies, which could include your eidolon, party members, NPC's, etc. There isn't really a good way to make your eidolon "mythic", but guardian path has the most relevant. I think the hierophant path includes 1 or 2 mythic abilities also found in the guardian path that works for eidolons.


Heiriophant, definitely. While you are not divine, and so a lot of abilities will not be for you, you can really take advantage of some of the abilities such as mighty summons. Makes your summons mythic. You need to manually make your eidolon mythic by spending feats, path abilities and spells. Maybe dual path with Archmage. Lots of ways to boost your spellcasting there. (Such as getting 4 more spell slots per level)


Okay first things first your eidolon should by all intents and purposes be considered a mythic creature because he comes from a mythic source, you.

Mythic versus Non-Mythic

As you make your way through this book, you will see a number of abilities, feats, spells, magic items, and monsters refer to “mythic” versus “non-mythic” creatures and sources. For the purposes of the rules that follow, a creature is mythic if it has a mythic tier or mythic rank. Any mythic creature is considered a mythic source. The term “mythic source” can also apply to an attack, feat, spell, magic item, or other effect that originates from a mythic source.

Creatures are non-mythic if they don't have any mythic ranks or tiers. Any non-mythic creature is a non-mythic source, as is any attack or effect originating from a non-mythic source.

This will only give him the protection from the mythic non-mythic difference. So he wouldn't gain anything else because he is just a class ability in the form of an eidolon. For it to gain anything you would have to take the path ablitiy or feat.


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But a summoner is not the source of his eidolon any more than a druid is the source of his animal companion or a wizard is the source of his familiar, even though all of them are class features. You would have a better case arguing that a mythic adventurer's children are mythic.


David knott 242 wrote:

But a summoner is not the source of his eidolon any more than a druid is the source of his animal companion or a wizard is the source of his familiar, even though all of them are class features. You would have a better case arguing that a mythic adventurer's children are mythic.

Hm I like that gives me an idea for a new character.

Anyways I disagree, to me that's like saying a rogues sneak attack isn't mythic unless his weapon is. That bolded text is straight from the book it's not about convincing or arguing it's the rule. The eidolon is a class ability so why should it be any different? I mean you are calling him so how are you not the source? Would a synthesis be exempt?

Hm I sounded a little pushy there and didn't mean to. It's a balancing thing because if it wasn't the case you are a liability now.

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