RPG Superstar 2012 Top 16
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Marathon Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8, Star Voter Season 9
aka Locke1520
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Found another pretty cool item. I think there are some necessary crafting requirements but I won't hold those against the item unless it comes up against a similarly cool item that is better designed in full.
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I just found my favorite item so far. It's creative, clever, clear, and short, and has great mechanics, too. It had a few minor formatting errors, but it still went right to the front of the pack. The core idea was just right.
You know you like it if you think, "I wish I would have thought of that."
I'm guessing I've cast around 600-700 votes, and it's the first time I've seen it.
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Well, hell-o, little 101-word item with a really simple function. Where have you been hiding out these past few days, sexy? Let me buy you dinner...
Shopkeeper, I purchased these shoes because they appeared to be extremely angry, but in this regard I have been sorely disappointed!
This one is a bit SIAC-ish, but it's so good - in flavor, in detail, in options - that I really couldn't care less.
finally have 5 items in my keep folder (although one I'll have to rewrite the last paragraph to use in my games).
It's not a spell in a can, it's a can that you put spells into.
LotR vs Narnia!!
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Marriage item! Drinks all around and congrats to the happy couple!
And don't forget to invite Iron Maiden to play during the wedding!
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Alright, time for a mini-rant. I don't know how many people will actually see this, but here we go. Please be more general in describing items. If I can read your post and know not more-or-less which item it is but rather exactly which item it is, that could be a problem.
Essentially we are venting here, blowing off steam so that we can continue in the important task of rating items. There is nothing wrong with that, but it is largely negative and derisive. If you are the poor individual that immediately recognizes his or her item being shredded, this could be very demoralizing. Because they can't defend their item they have to sit there and take what may seem as a personal insult over and over again.
And they can't fight back. Their hands are tied by the rules of the contest. In a way we are having someone hold their arms behind their back while we land a punch to the stomach. Not cool.
Now all that said, most of the criticisms here have been valid. We just have to make sure we wait until after the Top 32 reveal before being more open. And wait for someone to be brave enough to ask for advice.
To those who feel discouraged or hurt by the way your item is being described: please check out THIS THREAD. It will really help. Also we are in general much more caring of feelings when we actually critique items a week after the Top 32 reveal.
Somewhere in each item is a really interesting design idea that may or may not have been properly executed. It's the items, not the designers, that we are targeting in this thread. Most of us are in the same boat: we have heard some disparaging remarks that could apply to our submission.
It may be hard to hear, but it is not meant as a personal attack. THAT is why we have to keep the identifiers as vague as possible. When we get specific, it becomes personal. I've been reviewing my posts and there have been a couple where I got close to the line. I'm going to watch myself carefully from now on.
Anyways, just my take on it. Keep on venting and voting. Just remember that someone actually worked on that submission and was brave enough to submit it. Have a heart. :)
RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16
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Marathon Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8
aka Jrcmarine
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A couple of items make me sad. The writing is good, the flavor is cool but it's an item that just wouldn't really be used by an adventurer. Ultimately Pathfinder is about heroes and their adventures. While an adventurer may have collected many magical items that assist in the mundane portion of their lives, the items that are written about in stories are the ones that help them kill monsters or overcome challenges when adventuring. A magic threshing machine that increases crop yield (not a real item, I just made this up) is not what I am looking for in RPGSS. A magical dental chair that allows me to fill people's teeth faster and without novocaine (see previous made up item note) is neat but not RPGSS worthy and imho a designer that has missed the point of the competition.
I prefer non-gonzo non-combat wondrous items that help players/parties overcome RP problems or assist them. As an actor for my entire life, RPing NPC interaction has always been a strong suit of mine; however many people are not very good at that part of the game, even if it is their favorite part! I prefer items that assist those players.
Our games usually have a lot of puzzles, traps or riddles so I also like items that assist with that aspect of the game without breaking the rules too much or creating a GM headache.
And of course we have combat as well, but that is what weapons and armor are for. The farmer, merchant, miller, tinker, barrister, etc. portions of our career take place outside of our game time and have little to no impact on the campaign. In the few instances where they do, a magic item is still irrelevant.
darn, my fave part is developing towns using ultimate campaign. i love the group negotiating of designing a community and having that magic threshing machine would help a little, perhaps a mediation of conflict golem?
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Has anyone been gathering data on the item costs? It seems like there are an inordinate number of items that are way above even the metropolis purchase limit - even dropping the million-plus items, that would be kind of limiting for a GM, as far as managing party wealth...
I find myself voting for affordable items that are slightly less cool, simply because I could actually see them in play, instead of the awesome item that no one could ever buy or whose base price would take six months to a year to craft.
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RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16
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Marathon Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8
aka Jrcmarine
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I like the golem! I shouldn't need magic items to create a town or base of operations. Our party claimed thistletop as our base of operatios and are in the process of making it over. That being said, we don't need magic items to do said makeover, that is why we hire NPCs. I would rather hire NPCs and support the local economy than do it with a magic item.
I think I saw that item (in different slot) last year... But it is extra-obvious idea tied to the name.
I just read the Tycho Brahe and Johannes Kepler biography and the description of conscription of labour by brahe on his little island was hilarious from the eyes of the bewildered peasants, many or whom moved off island for the decade. he built his house and observatory right in the middle of their commons for grazing and when he was gone the spent almost as much effort vandalizing the equipment as they had building it in the first place.
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RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16
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Marathon Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8
aka Jrcmarine
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I just read the Tycho Brahe and Johannes Kepler biography and the description of conscription of labour by brahe on his little island was hilarious from the eyes of the bewildered peasants, many or whom moved off island for the decade. he built his house and observatory right in the middle of their commons for grazing and when he was gone the spent almost as much effort vandalizing the equipment as they had building it in the first place.
Lol
darn, my fave part is developing towns using ultimate campaign. i love the group negotiating of designing a community and having that magic threshing machine would help a little, perhaps a mediation of conflict golem?
Or maybe one of these would help? http://www.theonion.com/articles/city-councilman-unearths-magical-zoning-am ulet,1782/
There are at least two magic item recycling items?
I am not fond of suffocating or drowning item :/
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Divorce requires miracle?
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Dedicated Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8, Dedicated Voter Season 9
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Alright, time for a mini-rant.
[good rant]
TLDR: Please be as general as possible when describing items anywhere on the messageboards. We want people to feel good about this contest.
Very well said.
I've tried to be vague, but have probably gotten too close to the line myself.
What I do want to say, though, to anyone whose item I have commented on is that I'm generally only picking out odd phrasing that strikes me as funny, which isn't intended to disparage the entry itself. More often than not...I then vote for that item.
Don't get discouraged. This is just another part of the process. Part of the gallows humor is that our items are in there too. I've already come to terms with the fact that my item may not be memorable enough to generate comments.
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I think I've voted for this same item 2-3 times before, not because I like it but because it keeps getting paired with something even worse.
How many dwarven items were submitted this year?
Nice idea for an item, but I am not sure what it actually does...
The other one has nice idea and better described but is a bit overpowered in my opinion...
I think I've voted for this same item 2-3 times before, not because I like it but because it keeps getting paired with something even worse.
then it shall rise to the top of the bottom!
face off
Grapple check is a d20 roll + CMB. Writing about "grapple CMB check" is redundant.
Two-spells-in-a-can.
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evil cant park here between the hours of 7 Am and 2 pm....
There might be two or three such items.
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RPG Superstar 2015
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Marathon Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8, Star Voter Season 9
aka mamaursula
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A couple of items make me sad. The writing is good, the flavor is cool but it's an item that just wouldn't really be used by an adventurer. Ultimately Pathfinder is about heroes and their adventures.
I have seen some great villain items which I do vote for, if I can stomach reading them.
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darn, my fave part is developing towns using ultimate campaign. i love the group negotiating of designing a community and having that magic threshing machine would help a little, perhaps a mediation of conflict golem?
You are far from alone. Kingmaker is a very popular AP and some of us grognards still admire the old 2nd ed style stronghold rules.
That said an item in Superstar has to have a certain level of flash to have the kind of mass appeal you need to get the upvotes. Someone who play the game like a "murder hobo: isn't going to see the value of that magical threshing machine unless they can armor it and start murdering hordes of orcs with it.
Very powerful object versus much more decent but missing information how long its buffs lasts...
I have seen some great villain items which I do vote for, if I can stomach reading them.A couple of items make me sad. The writing is good, the flavor is cool but it's an item that just wouldn't really be used by an adventurer. Ultimately Pathfinder is about heroes and their adventures.
Some people do actually make the "evil adventuring party" thing work. Sometimes I have a player "hide" a villain in with the heroes and see if that character gains redemption or destroys the group from within.
I agree that the Superstar market should appeal to players/heroes first, but don't don't put your games back into the box they came out of...
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RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16
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Marathon Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8
aka Jrcmarine
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Don't get me wrong. I am fine with "mundane" magical items. I like them, but not for rpgss.
A high level 2ed wild mage i played had a murlynd's spoon that was his favorite item. But murlynd's spoon isn't superstar.
I have a feeling that there is a spell that does that.
RPG Superstar 2014 Top 32
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Marathon Voter Season 7, Star Voter Season 9
aka Netopalis
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Divorce requires miracle?
Not if I'm on the case. I provide a low, flat fee for your uncontested divorce! Call now for a free consultation!
Note: The person behind the keyboard actually is a lawyer and actually does divorces. :P
Divorce requires miracle?Not if I'm on the case. I provide a low, flat fee for your uncontested divorce! Call now for a free consultation!
Note: The person behind the keyboard actually is a lawyer and actually does divorces. :P
That particular item reminds me of an item in the Night Angel trilogy written by Brent Weeks.
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Had to vote for a bomb, damn you helm