If you could change just one PFS rule - what would it be?


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what the subject says....

"If you could change just one PFS rule - what would it be?"

Remember to keep it in PF Society - not just in PF...(that would be a thread for the other board).

I'll wait a while to chime in with mine...

Silver Crusade 4/5

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Wizards not being allowed to scribe scroll.

Or pretty much the craft rules in general. I wishwe could something like Gunsmithing where if you have the feat it is at a discount and fame/PA rules applied.

I have had many people moan about this because LFR and D&D Encounters support crafting and we don't. Now I understand and respect why we don't allow crafting. I am just saying.

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I'd open a non convention route to race boons: either 1 per star or the lotto system they were talking about.

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I want to be able to ride a pig.

Shadow Lodge 4/5 5/5 RPG Superstar Season 9 Top 8

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I'd make Tenacious Survivor PFS legal.

Mechanically, it's not a great feat, but it's one of the best flavor feats ever.

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I'd relax the Run As Written rules, and dispel the overly-restrictive culture they create, allowing GMs' talents to really shine by GMing games which fit their individual talents and style, and allowing them to really tailor the play experience to their play groups.

Oh, and then I'd remove a bunch of stuff from Additional Resources so threads like this one happen less often. It's just so sad to see so many potential hours of play experiences be vaporized because of overpowered options, and how easy it would be to reduce that waste.

So that's two things.

-Matt

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Mattastrophic wrote:

I'd relax the Run As Written rules, and dispel the overly-restrictive culture they create, allowing GMs' talents to really shine by GMing games which fit their individual talents and style, and allowing them to really tailor the play experience to their play groups.

-Matt

This seems to happen a lot more than you'd think from reading the boards.

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I'd remove spells with the evil descriptor just so that debate would finally go away.

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I'd remove non-core races from the fold...

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I'd reinstate the faction missions for seasons #0-4. They did a lot of work (and pretty well too) on the secondary success conditions, but I still ask for my missions and it's sad that they don't count for anything.

The Exchange 5/5

remove the monotheistic rules....

In a polytheistic world (one with more than one god), people are required to only worship one god.

PCs should be able to worship any/all the gods, or at least any that will except them.

Shadow Lodge 4/5

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I'd bring back the +1 APL adjustment for Seasons 0-3 for 6-7 players and/or allow tables to choose to play up in those older scenarios.

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I would eliminate the 1 xp per scenario abstraction, and use the logical consequences of using real XP values to eliminate the need for the new APL calculation mechanic.

Seasons 0-3 would still require an APL bump to correct for their 4 player assumption.

Closely followed by removing the non-PFRPG core deity requirements.

Grand Lodge 5/5

TetsujinOni wrote:

I would eliminate the 1 xp per scenario abstraction, and use the logical consequences of using real XP values to eliminate the need for the new APL calculation mechanic.

Seasons 0-3 would still require an APL bump to correct for their 4 player assumption.

Closely followed by removing the non-PFRPG core deity requirements.

I actually wouldnt mind that change, however, I disagree with the necessity to change the APL for Seasons 0-3. Want to play it with 6 people? Fine. Just splitting the exp more ways, so everybody gets less. :P

Liberty's Edge

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Majuba wrote:
I'd reinstate the faction missions for seasons #0-4. They did a lot of work (and pretty well too) on the secondary success conditions, but I still ask for my missions and it's sad that they don't count for anything.

This times a thousand. I'm pretty new to PFS and Pathfinder. In fact I have only played Pathfinder as PFS, so I waited to experience a few games without the faction missions to see what it is like and I have to say.... total failure. Bring those back. Fix whatever you thought was wrong with them and bring them back.

Basically at this point I have no idea why I even have to pick a faction, nor why I should care about any of them any longer. I'm gaining fame and prestige for some faceless faction that I no longer interact with. So... whats the point? For lack of a better phrase... "it's lame".

Grand Lodge 5/5

I'd like the "Rock falls; everybody dies." ban to be lifted.

;)

The Exchange 5/5

Seth Gipson wrote:

I'd like the "Rock falls; everybody dies." ban to be lifted.

;)

maybe just "Rock falls; somebody dies." ?

The Exchange 3/5

I'd like Monkey Grip.

The Exchange 4/5

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permanency.

Grand Lodge 5/5

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nosig wrote:
Seth Gipson wrote:

I'd like the "Rock falls; everybody dies." ban to be lifted.

;)

maybe just "Rock falls; somebody dies." ?

Not as good, though still suitable, I suppose.

I'd also like to be able to use the "You're walking, and you're walking, and you're walking and a DRAGON POPS OUT!" more often than I'm actually able to. :/

Sovereign Court 4/5 5/5 ** Venture-Lieutenant, West Virginia—Charleston

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I would like to be able to purchase wands, scrolls and potions of higher CLs than the minimum.

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Lady Ophelia wrote:
Wizards not being allowed to scribe scroll.

This specifically for sure! My wizards, they are good but I ma still DYING to get more scrolls ready for everything!

Shadow Lodge 4/5

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Hell, I dunno.

Grand Lodge 5/5 Regional Venture-Coordinator, Baltic

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I would like to have people (re)consider their messageboard posts for 120 minutes before they are actually posted.

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I'd allow the Words of Power subsystem.

Sczarni

I just want to be able to get an adamantine shovel and enchant it.

=(

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Majuba wrote:
I'd reinstate the faction missions for seasons #0-4. They did a lot of work (and pretty well too) on the secondary success conditions, but I still ask for my missions and it's sad that they don't count for anything.

I was honestly seriously doubting there would be any rule I would change and then Majuba said this.

It is sad even when I ask for faction missions I never get them.

Silver Crusade

Depends on mood.

Most often, probably allow Samsarans as a playable race (even in boon form, though not sure how I'd get one).

Next up would probably be disallow undead, but I've seen people play nice with them so not that often as I would've thought.

In one situation I would've said lift the ban on PvP, just for that one adventure. (c'mon, hasn't everyone thought that at least once?)

Grand Lodge 4/5

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Finlanderboy wrote:
It is sad even when I ask for faction missions I never get them.

If ever you find yourself at my table, you have but to ask.

Sczarni 5/5 5/55/5 ***

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I would change how the events page works.

Centralize all PFS events to Paizo's website. Make it a calendar system like Warhorn used to be (because, let's be honest, v2 is horrible). Be able to post what classes/levels will be there, and who's GMing.

GMs have to come here to create the event anyways, and list the date/location. If that aspect could be expanded to player sign ups I think finding and joining PFS games would be easier.

How many times do you see a new poster to the boards asking how to find a game? We always tell them "check out 'Meetup'", or "Google 'Warhorn'". It would be so much more streamlined if everyone could just go to one site.

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Allow GM credit for running the same scenario multiple times. If I can find a table of fresh players that haven't played it, for whom I can run it, why are you shorting my GM credits?

I realize that not buying new scenarios cuts into Paizo's pockets, but I think this situation is fringe enough that it wouldn't significantly bother them. Other than once or twice a year at conventions, how often do you RUN outside your local PFS circles?

And if you do have a large enough group that fresh players are cycling in, again, why are you cutting off the GM's knees by removing part of his incentive to run? If he has run that scenario, and had a great time running it, why shortchange the players in what will probably be an even better game the second time around because now he's familiar with it by making him pull out a fresh scenario so that he can get credit for it?

I know I know, "But it still counts towards your GM Stars". Whatever, I don't think it's too much to ask.


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Magic shield/armor bonuses should factor in to touch AC verses guns even if the material does not.

I agree that regular folks charging a musket line would get chewed up, but the premise that archaic, wildly inaccurate low velocity musket balls almost never miss (in most cases only if you roll a 1 after 5th level) and are more powerful than magic doesn't seem well thought out or balanced.

Oh yeah, and loaded and pointed crossbows should fire before initiative.

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TriOmegaZero wrote:
Finlanderboy wrote:
It is sad even when I ask for faction missions I never get them.
If ever you find yourself at my table, you have but to ask.

Yay! Now come to Milwaukee....

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Finlanderboy wrote:
Yay! Now come to Milwaukee....

Well, January hasn't been settled just yet...

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Wraithcannon wrote:

Allow GM credit for running the same scenario multiple times. If I can find a table of fresh players that haven't played it, for whom I can run it, why are you shorting my GM credits?

I realize that not buying new scenarios cuts into Paizo's pockets, but I think this situation is fringe enough that it wouldn't significantly bother them. Other than once or twice a year at conventions, how often do you RUN outside your local PFS circles?

And if you do have a large enough group that fresh players are cycling in, again, why are you cutting off the GM's knees by removing part of his incentive to run? If he has run that scenario, and had a great time running it, why shortchange the players in what will probably be an even better game the second time around because now he's familiar with it by making him pull out a fresh scenario so that he can get credit for it?

I know I know, "But it still counts towards your GM Stars". Whatever, I don't think it's too much to ask.

Maybe this is me. But I hate using DM credits for higher level characters. So I have a ton of mid level characters full of DM credit.

I do not need more DM credits, but that is me. Honestly with fresh people I love giving the scenarios I find fun over to a new crowd surprised by the game.

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I'd relax the Tier 1-2 play for credit rule to allow infinite replay with level 2 PC's instead of just level 1 PC's.

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I'm actually beginning to feel I need to NOT apply GM credit to my characters once they get out of the lower levels, so I can actually play them...

Scarab Sages 4/5

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MYTHIC TOZ wrote:
I'm actually beginning to feel I need to NOT apply GM credit to my characters once they get out of the lower levels, so I can actually play them...

I kinda feel the same way. It's nice to be able to apply a GM credit if I need to get a character into tier for something, or if I want a boon on a specific character, but for the most part my GM credits just collect on an unbuilt character. I'd much rather play my characters than have them level out of things from GM credits.

What I'd much rather see is the GM star replays be made one per star per season. It's a great way to reward GMs while not adding a ton of extra chronicle sheets. Right now, with one per star per lifetime, I'm afraid to use my lowly two, in case I need them for something like replaying Eyes of the Ten in the future (in the unlikely event I get to 4-stars before it's retired).

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Netopalis wrote:
I would like to be able to purchase wands, scrolls and potions of higher CLs than the minimum.

This, X 1000. There is already a price difference built in and you can't buy them until you meet the fame qualifications anyway (unless using prestige and that would not work for wands). Sometimes you need a higher CL, particularly for things like remove disease that require caster level checks!

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nosig wrote:

remove the monotheistic rules....

In a polytheistic world (one with more than one god), people are required to only worship one god.

PCs should be able to worship any/all the gods, or at least any that will except them.

They Already can... It is called Pantheons. Of Course Clerics, inquisitors, paladins, cavaliers of the order of the star, samurai of the order of the star are still restricted due to the Lore of Golarion.

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I would remove the PFS rules on Scrolls, Wands and Potions.

I would Remove the ability to worship Evil Deities and cast Evil Spells.

If Something fits Golarion and is in a legal book add it to additional resources, don't keep it not legal just to add it to a Chronicle later.

Stop giving VO's Free Scenarios for Game days, make them/GMs buy them just like anyone else so maybe scenarios will actually make some money for Paizo.

Get rid of factions all together.

I really would like to get rid of any rule that differs in PFS from Core, just keep the restrictions on Crafting.

Sovereign Court 4/5 5/5 ** Venture-Lieutenant, West Virginia—Charleston

Dragnmoon: If VOs were no longer allowed to lend scenarios to gamedays, I don't feel that we could legitimately ask people to GM as much as they do. Many regions would crumble. The only way to fix that would be to ask players to chip in, which many regions are unwilling to do.

Sovereign Court 3/5

I'd let GMs do the one thing Living Other Guys got right:

My Realms.

Strict rules for it, of course - like the other guys had. But the guys in Houston did some wonderful stuff with My Realms.

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Netopalis wrote:
Dragnmoon: If VOs were no longer allowed to lend scenarios to gamedays, I don't feel that we could legitimately ask people to GM as much as they do. Many regions would crumble. The only way to fix that would be to ask players to chip in, which many regions are unwilling to do.

If the GM can't Afford the $4 for a scenario then most likely they can't afford the books needed to GM or the Logistics it requires just to get to a Game day.

We have never asked our players to Chip in for scenarios locally GMs have been more then willing to buy a scenario except for a few rare occasions. We are not crumbling due to the $4 for a scenario.

Though I am not against the idea of chipping in a few cents for a scenario, we are talking fairly low amount of money here.

Grand Lodge 4/5

Wraithcannon wrote:

Allow GM credit for running the same scenario multiple times. If I can find a table of fresh players that haven't played it, for whom I can run it, why are you shorting my GM credits?

I realize that not buying new scenarios cuts into Paizo's pockets, but I think this situation is fringe enough that it wouldn't significantly bother them. Other than once or twice a year at conventions, how often do you RUN outside your local PFS circles?

And if you do have a large enough group that fresh players are cycling in, again, why are you cutting off the GM's knees by removing part of his incentive to run? If he has run that scenario, and had a great time running it, why shortchange the players in what will probably be an even better game the second time around because now he's familiar with it by making him pull out a fresh scenario so that he can get credit for it?

I know I know, "But it still counts towards your GM Stars". Whatever, I don't think it's too much to ask.

I'm okay with this.. in fact at MegaCon 2013 I told Mike Brock this was the ONLY way you could make GMing 'Rise of the Goblin Guild' more fun (Add Among the Dead/Living/Gods, and several other of my favorites to this list)

Sovereign Court 4/5 5/5 ** Venture-Lieutenant, West Virginia—Charleston

Dragnmoon: The only book that is required is the Core Rulebook. It has been stated that GMs are allowed access to the PRD for all other information. $4 isn't much for someone who has a steady job and a steady income, but not everybody does. I've been starting up my own law firm, and I've been 6 months without income. I'm due a lot of money, though, and it will soon turn steady again. Until then, though, most of my RPG purchases are on hiatus right now. Given the mercurial state of the economy, I'm certain that I am not alone there.

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Matt Savage wrote:

I'd let GMs do the one thing Living Other Guys got right:

My Realms.

Strict rules for it, of course - like the other guys had. But the guys in Houston did some wonderful stuff with My Realms.

The rules for My Realms let you do some astonishingly dumb stuff.

We did some cool stuff with it in Upstate NY as well, but Simplest My Realms Ever with waves of gnoll minions...

It was good as a gag, but not the interesting event that my friend and I worked up with the shootout scene from The Gunslinger, or my Boat Trip As the Adventure, complete with a boat actually big enough to be a deepwater vessel for Atlantic conditions.

Still and all, we already have a program that's way cooler than My Realms for credit: campaign mode APs or Dragon's Demand (and Wardens, soon, I hope).

Dark Archive 2/5

Access to something like agent of the grave. Says you have to be evil to play one, so that's pretty much out the window automatically. If we are making the assumption that casting evil spells is not evil, should not that also apply to prestige classes? I mean... I can't see antipaladin being allowed, obviously. However, an agent of the grave is a far cry from that.

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Netopalis wrote:
Dragnmoon: The only book that is required is the Core Rulebook. It has been stated that GMs are allowed access to the PRD for all other information. $4 isn't much for someone who has a steady job and a steady income, but not everybody does. I've been starting up my own law firm, and I've been 6 months without income. I'm due a lot of money, though, and it will soon turn steady again. Until then, though, most of my RPG purchases are on hiatus right now. Given the mercurial state of the economy, I'm certain that I am not alone there.

I am incredibly cheap I will not pay for something I could get cheaper. I am broken like that. I have 4 purchased scenarios in my downloads of 22. I purchased those for other people. So I get what you mean with not spending money.

I think 4 dollars is cheap and someone would easily pay it though VS not playing. You seem to have a large group. If all the players offered a dollar to buy the scenario for the DM would they do that for you? My guess is yes. Then once it is purchased you own it and can run it over and over.

If the management of PFS offered to make more scenarios if we purchased more of them I defiantly would start purchaing them though(or raised the price to make more). So there is the balance of wanting more content mixed with the frugality I have.

Maybe those are solutions to the rules. Myabe not.

Lantern Lodge 5/5

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I would ban the name "Bob." Any character/companion/eidolon/mount/familiar named "Bob" would be excised from the Society unless they get an atonement and an official name change.

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