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Sissyl wrote:
Hama wrote:
Yeah, the worst thing a religious man has told me is that faith is above scrutiny and religion can never be suspect. Yeah right.
Oh no. It is FAR from the worst thing a religious person has told me. Sadly. My worst is when they talk about how love is so central, how letting Jesus into their lives truly changes them, and then in the next breath say something like "homosexuals should all be killed/will burn in hell for eternity/<insert other disgusting example of hatred here>". This is not a rare thing, either, sadly. This is not generalizable, though. There are many christians who do understand the message they devote their lives to. Even these tend not to distance themselves from the above-mentioned hatemongers, though, which I find deeply odd. They explain that people make different interpretations of the Bible, and that this should be respected. Sound familiar?

Exceedingly. I used to hear it at church all the time. It's part of why I'm now a pagan.

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Honestly, after reading through the old testament, the new testament and the qoran, i decided that Atheism is the best course of action.

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SnowJade wrote:
It's part of why I'm now a pagan.

Always nice to run into other pagans.

On topic:

I really don't get why I can't sleep in on saturday. 7:00, really? Really? Bleh.
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Dark elves. What are people's obsession with them? And I don't mean just Drow.

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Because they embody our secret desires and stuff we would like to try, but don't, because they are taboo.


The mustache craze.

Where everything piling up on my dining room table is coming from even though none of us in the house remembers putting it there.

Our dog's fascination with digging holes.

Why things are done the way they are at work (Walmart).

People who bring their kids shopping with them at 3 am.

Why the Kardashians are famous. Or why people care about them.

Why people care about celebrities at all other than how well they sing/act/whatever they do.

Internet memes.

Why people find Farmville/other Facebook games so enthralling.

Why people find Facebook so enthralling.

Why people friend people they don't know online.

Why "Black Friday" is now on Thanksgiving Day.

"Swag" and "YOLO".

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Ivan Rûski wrote:
The mustache craze.

I hear you there. My gf loves mustache stuff, but I just don't get it.

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Why people find Farmville/other Facebook games so enthralling.

They're a simple way to spend some time, doesn't require thinking, doesn't require effort, just click click click.


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YOLO is easy. It's an acronym for "You Obviously Like Owls".

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Hama wrote:
Why people who haven't earned my respect expect it of me. No, living longer then me does not warrant respect. Maybe if you're Jack Churchill.

I always treat people with respect when I first meet them.

They can lose my respect by poor behaviour but I start from a position of respect.

It is the first step in building positive relationships with people.

The telling question would be, why are you disrespectful to strangers when you first meet them?

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ShadowcatX wrote:
Hama wrote:
Yes, headphones are the universal "bugger off, I'm busy" signal that everyone should know.

Very much this.

Also: Why do people who can't afford the one child they have, continue to have children?

If everyone waited until they could afford children then the population would nosedive.


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My tuxedo cat Pepi's obsession with my friend Derek's right elbow.

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GeraintElberion wrote:
The telling question would be, why are you disrespectful to strangers when you first meet them?

I doubt he's disrespectful to people upon meeting them, more that he's neutral to people.

On topic: Owls. I don't get people who like owls. Where I'm from owls are not your friend, they're not a good omen. I once saw a person talking about people how Native Americans liked owls and I wanted to laugh my *** off.

And why people seem to think Native Americans can all be lumped together in a single group.


Feros wrote:
My tuxedo cat Pepi's obsession with my friend Derek's right elbow.

Hey, another tuxie-cat owner! I don't understand my boy's insistence on walking right under my feet. Every time he comes trotting over, it *has* to done. Period. No exceptions.

Also:

ShadowcatX wrote:

On topic: Owls. I don't get people who like owls. Where I'm from owls are not your friend, they're not a good omen. I once saw a person talking about people how Native Americans liked owls and I wanted to laugh my *** off.

And why people seem to think Native Americans can all be lumped together in a single group.

Hey, I grew up in South Dakota! You know, it's gotten so that when someone asks what my ethnicity is over the phone or when I have to fill in a form, I answer "Human". If I'm talking to someone on the phone, they sort of chuckle and say, "Oh, that's cute! Now, what's your ethnicity?". "Human. Probably about 96% H.sapiens, and 4% neanderthalensis".

GeraintElberion wrote:
ShadowcatX wrote:
Hama wrote:
Yes, headphones are the universal "bugger off, I'm busy" signal that everyone should know.
Also: Why do people who can't afford the one child they have, continue to have children?
If everyone waited until they could afford children then the population would nosedive.

Being female, I can tell you that the pressure to have children - especially from older, female relatives - is very, very intense. For me, it started as soon as my husband and I had gotten through the wedding ceremony, and it never has stopped. Regardless of income, situation, my own personal goals, etc. They didn't matter. I was actually informed that it was my "duty", which I very much did not - and still don't - understand. It's another part of why I'm a pagan.


Sissyl wrote:
YOLO is easy. It's an acronym for "You Obviously Like Owls".

Nope, "YOLO" is a typo. It's suppose to say YOLM, which stands for You Obviously Like Mudkips.


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SnowJade wrote:
Hey, another tuxie-cat owner! I don't understand my boy's insistence on walking right under my feet. Every time he comes trotting over, it *has* to done. Period. No exceptions.

I think this is an innate behavior in most housecats. Lacking the strength or size of a tiger or lion, tripping the hoo-mahn seems to be their attempt to reenact the "snowspeeder tripping the AT-AT" scene from SW:ESB. Except unlike a snowspeeder, the housecat will then attempt to nom on it's fatally-downed foe.

And yes, tuxedo cats are awesome, Tuxedo Maine Coons doubly so.


Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
SnowJade wrote:
Hey, another tuxie-cat owner! I don't understand my boy's insistence on walking right under my feet. Every time he comes trotting over, it *has* to done. Period. No exceptions.

I think this is an innate behavior in most housecats. Lacking the strength or size of a tiger or lion, tripping the hoo-mahn seems to be their attempt to reenact the "snowspeeder tripping the AT-AT" scene from SW:ESB. Except unlike a snowspeeder, the housecat will then attempt to nom on it's fatally-downed foe.

And yes, tuxedo cats are awesome, Tuxedo Maine Coons doubly so.

Our Coonie girl is a blue-and-white tuxie, and she is indeed awesome. That part, I do get.

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SnowJade wrote:
ShadowcatX wrote:

On topic: Owls. I don't get people who like owls. Where I'm from owls are not your friend, they're not a good omen. I once saw a person talking about people how Native Americans liked owls and I wanted to laugh my *** off.

And why people seem to think Native Americans can all be lumped together in a single group.

Hey, I grew up in South Dakota! You know, it's gotten so that when someone asks what my ethnicity is over the phone or when I have to fill in a form, I answer "Human". If I'm talking to someone on the phone, they sort of chuckle and say, "Oh, that's cute! Now, what's your ethnicity?". "Human. Probably about 96% H.sapiens, and 4% neanderthalensis".

Oklahoma here. I've considered doing that, but where I work race actually matters. Ah, the "joys" of working for a tribal government.


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Whats your ethnicity?

Canis lupus lycaon


as someone from the northwest who has BBQed in the snow, it has been pointed out to me that I'm a Blue Neck


ShadowcatX wrote:
Oklahoma here. I've considered doing that, but where I work race actually matters. Ah, the "joys" of working for a tribal government.

That's the thing about being an anthropologist, especially a physical anthropologist (and hanging around with forensic anthropologists): Ultimately, there is no such thing. What I don't get is why that idea scares people.

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BigNorseWolf wrote:

Whats your ethnicity?

Canis lupus lycaon

Tsss. Panthera uncia gynepardaea, but I've never been terribly successful at explaining it to census-takers. I wonder why?

Plus a thought: All of the terms I could find for shapeshifters which were even neutral in bias referred specifically to men/males. <..>~


ShadowcatX wrote:
Oklahoma here. I've considered doing that, but where I work race actually matters. Ah, the "joys" of working for a tribal government.

That's the thing about being an anthropologist, especially a physical anthropologist (and hanging around with forensic anthropologists): Ultimately, there is no such thing. What I don't get is why that idea scares people.

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Bombadil wrote:
as someone from the northwest who has BBQed in the snow, it has been pointed out to me that I'm a Blue Neck

I've hot-tubbed in the Arctic. Do I count?

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BigNorseWolf wrote:

Whats your ethnicity?

Canis lupus lycaon

Tsss. Panthera uncia gynepardaea, but I've never been terribly successful at explaining it to census-takers. I wonder why?

Plus a thought: All of the terms I could find for shapeshifters which were even neutral in bias referred specifically to men/males. <..>~

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GeraintElberion wrote:
ShadowcatX wrote:
Hama wrote:
Yes, headphones are the universal "bugger off, I'm busy" signal that everyone should know.

Very much this.

Also: Why do people who can't afford the one child they have, continue to have children?

If everyone waited until they could afford children then the population would nosedive.

So? There are too many people in the world anyway.

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Hama wrote:
GeraintElberion wrote:
ShadowcatX wrote:
Hama wrote:
Yes, headphones are the universal "bugger off, I'm busy" signal that everyone should know.

Very much this.

Also: Why do people who can't afford the one child they have, continue to have children?

If everyone waited until they could afford children then the population would nosedive.
So? There are too many people in the world anyway.

So, who should have children? I'm interested to know where you would put the cut off point?


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SnowJade wrote:
ShadowcatX wrote:
Oklahoma here. I've considered doing that, but where I work race actually matters. Ah, the "joys" of working for a tribal government.

That's the thing about being an anthropologist, especially a physical anthropologist (and hanging around with forensic anthropologists): Ultimately, there is no such thing. What I don't get is why that idea scares people.

Yeah, after taking anthropology in university, racism is something I really don't get. My initial text book had this collage of photos of business men all dressed relatively the same from around the world. They were arranged roughly in a shape that placed them next to those who originated closest to each of them. There was no significant difference in appearance between any two adjacent men, yet the photos went from Scandinavian to Eastern Asia to Southern Africa.

Race is an illusion brought on by bringing two or more groups from far origins together, nothing more.


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GeraintElberion wrote:


So, who should have children? I'm interested to know where you would put the cut off point?

a few inches below the navel usually...


Sissyl wrote:
YOLO is easy. It's an acronym for "You Obviously Like Owls".

"You Obviously Like Owlbears", YOLO for the reckless adventurer.


_Cobalt_ wrote:
I don't get how someone can really, truly believe that humans are basically good by nature. Left to their own devices, humans are vile, narcissistic gits (self included). I say we exterminate them all.

Hear, hear!

Down with the pinkskins!

(I don't know how I missed this one before.)


Jaelithe wrote:


I don't get why shootouts can decide the World Cup. They're settling a lengthy battle by allowing teams that haven't earned them clear shots on goal. What's the old cliche? It's like deciding game seven of the NBA Finals with a free throw shooting contest. (This cost the Azzurri a championship against Brazil some years ago, and I'm still annoyed about it.)

It's the easiest system, and they've tried a few. At first, ties in the final match were decided by a coin toss. Then they introduced re-matches, until someone came up with the penalty shootout idea. What would you suggest as an alternative?

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GeraintElberion wrote:
Hama wrote:
GeraintElberion wrote:
ShadowcatX wrote:
Hama wrote:
Yes, headphones are the universal "bugger off, I'm busy" signal that everyone should know.

Very much this.

Also: Why do people who can't afford the one child they have, continue to have children?

If everyone waited until they could afford children then the population would nosedive.
So? There are too many people in the world anyway.
So, who should have children? I'm interested to know where you would put the cut off point?

Every couple should have at least a single child, if they can support it, of course. But that would decrease the population by one. If every couple had two children, the population would stay the same. I don't think that anyone should have more then two kids anyway.

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I think I'd be more in favor of mandatory neutering than I would be in favor of mandatory parenting. This world has far too few people who know how to be parents as is, I can't imagine forcing couples to have children. On the flip side, if people can't provide for their children and can't be bothered to use birth control and just want things given to them on a silver platter just for existing, then I'd be fine with a mandatory snip snip.

So let's add one more to the list: Why people are allowed to abuse the system, especially to the detriment of their children.


Fabius wrote:
What would you suggest as an alternative?

After the first extra period go to golden goals and add a second ball to the pitch, then keep adding another ball every 10 minutes until someone scores. It would be crazy, wild, and chaotic, officiating would be non-existant, but man would that be fun to watch :)

More seriously, eliminate offsides and alternate set pieces from set marks such as 30 yards out, that way the whole team is involved in each play and the action continues. Have a clearance line, maybe 40 yards out, and if the defending team clears than it flips to a set piece for the other team. First team to score wins.


While there is many things about which I have libertarian attitude I would be in favor of obligatory long-term birth control for males. Having children would require applying for reversal of the procedure with a waiting period for the applicant to actually think it through.


Population control sounds great in theory, but who's to administer it? That's too much power for any one group to wield.

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I would introduce a parenting license. Every couple willing to have a child would have to pass extensive psychological profiling and background check before being allowed to have a child.


Hama wrote:
I would introduce a parenting license. Every couple willing to have a child would have to pass extensive psychological profiling and background check before being allowed to have a child.

I've been wanting to do that for years. You have to get a license to drive, you have to get a license (in the US) to get married, for petessakes! After what I see at the mall, people should at least be required to get counseling before they have kids. Of course, we need a support system that works, too; parenting is a tough job. I had a friend in grad school who was a single mom, and she had to really look for daycare and preschool options. Luckily, the University had a great system in place that she could use.


The problem with parenting licenses is that we've had bad experiences with blatantly racists eugenics, so we don't trust any authority with the power to make the decision for fear of abuse... with more than a little rational.


BigNorseWolf wrote:
The problem with parenting licenses is that we've had bad experiences with blatantly racists eugenics, so we don't trust any authority with the power to make the decision for fear of abuse... with more than a little rational.

That's also true, unfortunately. So what would be your suggestion?


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We are never going to give every child a good childhood.

Never. No matter what.

Sour taste in the mouth? Get used to it.

All we can do is make sure we help THOSE WE FIND who need it.

So, if we change our way of life to a severely more intrusive way of government, can we give every child a good childhood THEN?

No, even if it seems to be a popular idea these days.

A more powerful government with fewer checks and balances means so many other, even worse things. Accept incremental improvement assymetrically toward "everyone".


Indeed. The more power we give the government, the more room we give for the abuse of said power.


Drejk wrote:
While there is many things about which I have libertarian attitude I would be in favor of obligatory long-term birth control for males. Having children would require applying for reversal of the procedure with a waiting period for the applicant to actually think it through.

As far as I know, there isn't one. Vasectomies aren't reliably reversible. There aren't any 100% reliable reversible contraceptives.


Nope. Testicles take too much damage from stuff that inhibit them. Doesn't work. Besides, it has pretty bad side effects. Female reproductive systems are a finely tuned watch that you can reliably interfere with for this reason. Male reproductive systems work by massive flooding, and anything that inhibits that will be intrusive enough to damage the system. While it's an old adage that if we lived in an equal world, there would be contraceptives for men, it's just not true.


Very promising long-term contraceptive for males.

One of the primary problems with this procedure is the low cost (IIRC materials used costed around $20 and the procedure takes about 15 minutes of surgeon time for ten year protection, possibly longer) making it too cheap for pharmaceutical companies to invest into its further development and medical testing that would ensure its safety.


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I don't get people who consider their style of doing things superior to those of others, or the "one true way" of doing things. Just to name an example, the "Core only" crowd looking down at people who don't play like they do. So far as I've seen, that kind of behaviour just makes me want to act like I'm above them, which in turn makes me a smug elitist as well. Another example is the annoying (and sometimes annoyingly vocal) crowd who insists that true art is hopelessly depressing and always dark as Hell's deepest pit.

Wait, have I already said this before? I feel like I have...


Obviously you just don't understand things are the necessary level to see why core only is the only REAL way to play the game, Icyshadow. =)

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Sissyl wrote:

We are never going to give every child a good childhood.

Never. No matter what.

Sour taste in the mouth? Get used to it.

All we can do is make sure we help THOSE WE FIND who need it.

So, if we change our way of life to a severely more intrusive way of government, can we give every child a good childhood THEN?

No, even if it seems to be a popular idea these days.

No, however, we can make the childhood for many children much better. And I'd be okay with that.


If it improves the life of just one child!!!!!

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Adm. Ackbar wrote:
If it improves the life of just one child!!!!!

As opposed to "you can't help everyone so don't bother"? Ya.


SnowJade wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:
The problem with parenting licenses is that we've had bad experiences with blatantly racists eugenics, so we don't trust any authority with the power to make the decision for fear of abuse... with more than a little rational.
That's also true, unfortunately. So what would be your suggestion?

Don't fight the tide if there's no point. People are going to have sex and thats going to lead to kids.

Educate everyone (especially women) so they have fewer children.

Subsidize daycare so that the kids being looked after properly at least some of the time

OFFER, but don't force, reliable contraception. Not everyone will take it, but controlling a population is a numbers game. You don't NEED to get every last one.

Open spaces for free range children

Harems for our top scientists to improve the gene pool. Paying a lot more for sperm donations would be more effective but they voted in this option for some reason... (egg donations.. not so much)

School lunch programs extended to some sort of dinner if needed.

Keep the schools open late if people want to hang out there. They already have the building and the insurance. You don't need to structure activities or anything just have one person there making sure it doesn't go full on lord of the flies.


big norse wolf wrote:


Open spaces for free range children

ties on bib


Hama wrote:
I don't think that anyone should have more th[a]n two kids anyway.

How many children do you have, Hama?


BigNorseWolf wrote:


Harems for our top scientists to improve the gene pool. Paying a lot more for sperm donations would be more effective but they voted in this option for some reason... (egg donations.. not so much)

this idea gets tossed around a lot, but most of the scientists I spend time with on a regular basis I really don't want to see breeding.

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