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i wouldn't restrict players from playing any of the 8 forms of planetouched and their kin
player characters are already minorities in their setting
and a planetouched, seems to be no less common than a half-elf or half-orc.
if we restrict planetouched, why aren't we restricting elves? dwarves? half-orcs? half-elves? halflings? and gnomes? they are all equal in rarity.
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Halflings are the most opressed, looked down on, persecuted, overlooked, not properly valued, neglected race on Golarion.
There should be a halfling global uprising!
I can totaly see the drow take up the cause of balance there and rise to the surface on a crusade to free those poor halflings, helping them shake off the shackles of slavery, getting rid of those snotty elves and stepping out of the shadows of humanity where they were left to life of their garbage for centuries.
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A while ago I advocated making an Exotic Race Boon Chronicle sheet that would limit all players to 1 active exotic race at a time unless the PC died or reached lvl 12 or unless he/she had received a race boon from a convention. The boon itself would be treated like a chronicle sheet and must be reported the first time the player uses the PC in a PFS game.You'd be interrupting peoples ability to play with this. Lets say someone has a level 8 that's been stuck for a while because of a lack of high level games and a level 3, both weirdos. You'd essentially kill one of their characters and either write them out of the high level games (possibly for months) or off their level 3 and force them to start over at 1.
This would severely harm individuals for... what gain exactly? The events that someone sees at a table don't necessarily reflect the larger campaign world as it is anyway (hey, didn't we save that guy? Hey didn't we KILL that guy? How come your level 19 doesn't have their own country by now?) So if you have a local mutant freak squad, that doesn't say anything other than... you have one society group of mutant freaks.
existing character would not be affected.
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I'll just throw my opinion out there:
I like Golarion. A lot! I'd like to keep PFS as true to the exotic race ratio (whew say that 3x fast) to the numbers that can be found throughout all of the campaign setting books. If that means restricting shiny exotic races to X number of conventions, then I am all for that. For me, personally, it keeps the integrity of the campaign.
Second, Living Greyhawk was wildly successful and I would argue that it was even more restrictive than PFS currently is (you could only qualify for certain PrCs, equipment, feats by traveling to different regions around the country instead of just one or two major locations such as GenCon). Next you had Living Forgotten Realms that had pretty much open access to everything as well as unlimited replay (at least at the beginning). PFS is also restrictive in terms of access and it is also very successful. I would argue there is some sort of correlation between in-game access and success of the campaign.
Lastly, exotic race boons are the cheapest item Paizo can provide that also directly affects attendance and GM participation in local conventions. Making these less valuable may end up hurting local conventions and thus the campaign.
Just my 2 pp.
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I don't like this idea at all, because it seems way more restrictive to me than what we have now. At least in my region, most people have multiple active characters at a time -- which makes it easier to have the right character for a given tier or faction. And if they do any amount of GMing -- they have even more. I expect any given character to be active for two or three years -- which is an awful lot of time to block your ability to make a second non-core character.
I'm not sure what you're saying here - are all the pc's of your players the same race: All Aasimars or Tieflings? its the only way that it would be more restrictive to them. In any case existing characters are not affected.
Which doesn't even bring up how you would try to enforce it. How is a GM supposed to know what other characters a player has?
Pretty much the same way everything else is enforced in PFS - The Honor System, because quite frankly anyone with MS Paint and MS Word can make a Race boon sheet with little effort.
If someone is determined to cheat their going to find a way.
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I'm not sure what you're saying here - are all the pc's of your players the same race: All Aasimars or Tieflings? its the only way that it would be more restrictive to them. In any case existing characters are not affected.
I don't like this idea at all, because it seems way more restrictive to me than what we have now. At least in my region, most people have multiple active characters at a time -- which makes it easier to have the right character for a given tier or faction. And if they do any amount of GMing -- they have even more. I expect any given character to be active for two or three years -- which is an awful lot of time to block your ability to make a second non-core character.
Perhaps I misunderstood your suggestion. Did you mean one of *each* uncommon race? Or one character of all uncommon races total? I read your suggestion as the latter. I currently only have one aasimar (and don't plan on any others), but I might want to make a tiefling sometime in the next few years.
Second, Living Greyhawk was wildly successful and I would argue that it was even more restrictive than PFS currently is (you could only qualify for certain PrCs, equipment, feats by traveling to different regions around the country instead of just one or two major locations such as GenCon).
Debatable on successful.
It was also the time where if the party found a +1 Silver Sword, only one fella was gonna get it.
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I would favor opening up the elemental-kin. They're fairly balanced and would fit in to Golarion relatively seemlessly. I'd also like the Wayang.
I do like the idea of getting boons from playing certain scenarios, or series of scenarios. The 2 RatFolk adventures, where my first character achieved his greatest glory, would have been a perfect opportunity to introduce the Ratfolk as a pc race.
Oh, by the by, Jiggy, I'm 51. Been playing RPG's for over 35 years, PFS for just over 1 year.
It seems obvious to me that a lot of folks really want to play different races/classes/etc. That very versatility is what has endeared Pathfinder to me. There must be some way to allow versatility to those who want it, while more conformity (not used in my normal derogatory useage of the word) for those who prefer that. I'm all for any option that moves that direction!
What will hurt is people like me who live on the fringe and have small gaming communities and not a lot of conventions anywhere nearby.
Also, I am 35 (I was Aristophanes' first character! haha, jk), been playing about 20 years, new to PFS
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I actually Kinda Like the Idea of Each year Cyceling 2-3 Uncommon races in and out
we had Tengu / Aasimar / Tiefling .... so my suggestion would be end of Season 5 Cycle them out and Cycle in 3 new ones ... I admit that simply adding them would Probably unbalance the system ... but you would promote Product at the very least
"hey Look at these books ... they have all the stuff you need for the new cycle of races that we just allowed"
I understand the apprehension behind it ... but I also understand the Problem with people in Remote Locations ... or without the money to hit the big Cons
And the online Cons arent always the answer ... I know for the YotSL Event they didnt have Race boons (aside from one that I think got Donated)... Im not sure about the VTT online games day yet since were still waiting on the Information from that ... and as far as I know there was nothing for VirtuaCon (tho that one was a mess)
these are of course just opinions ... and everyone has one
How does "racial cycling" make an ounce of in game sense, though? Aasimar, tiefling, and tengu are allowed now- a ship full of tengu arrive, and I guess plane-touched beings are conceived on the Prime in greater numbers that same time (due, perhaps, to a greater interest in mortal affairs by outsiders?)?
Now we cycle them out- all tengu have their work visas revoked and plane-touched are banished/called back to the heavens/hells...? Seems...er... kinda dumb.
I could see if similar themed beings were allowed for limited access- say, nagaji, kitsune, tengu, etc. as part of an exchange with the far east, or plane-/elemental-touched beings as part of an increased outer/inner planar influx that later returns to nominal levels. Temporary truces with monstrous clans? Society-backed necromantic research/experiment with dhampir? Another with lycanthropes? All part of some trial for a Society super-soldier program?
These make SOME sense, with characters starting early or straggling after being reasonable remnants of canonical PFS events, but static, mechanical start and end dates would feel... synthetic.
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How does "racial cycling" make an ounce of in game sense, though? Aasimar, tiefling, and tengu are allowed now- a ship full of tengu arrive, and I guess plane-touched beings are conceived on the Prime in greater numbers that same time (due, perhaps, to a greater interest in mortal affairs by outsiders?)?
Now we cycle them out- all tengu have their work visas revoked and plane-touched are banished/called back to the heavens/hells...? Seems...er... kinda dumb.
I could see if similar themed beings were allowed for limited access- say, nagaji, kitsune, tengu, etc. as part of an exchange with the far east, or plane-/elemental-touched beings as part of an increased outer/inner planar influx that later returns to nominal levels. Temporary truces with monstrous clans? Society-backed necromantic research/experiment with dhampir? Another with lycanthropes? All part of some trial for a Society super-soldier program?
These make SOME sense, with characters starting early or straggling after being reasonable remnants of canonical PFS events, but static, mechanical start and end dates would feel... synthetic.
This objection is really a non-starter to me because its not like PFS has a lack of metagame houserules with no logic to back them up in-game. Like the PFS wealth system and any bans that have come down. Its not like all the sythensists and undead lords literally got fired by the Devemvirate in-game. They still work for the Pathfinders, we just can't play them as characters any more.
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Hmm, I live in an area that has a reasonably low player population and though we could attempt to get sufficient tables prepared for a con event, it would be quite hard to gather sufficient people at one time to make it to the minimum numbers. In that light, although I am interested in trying out different races and different ideas, I'm limited to what is freely-available without boons.
The rotation of the 3 'uncommon' races each season sounds nice and as others have said could tie in nicely with the theme of the season. Even just allowing X uncommon races per player allowed from all the list but if you want more then needing boons would be interesting.
For those worried about cons loosing theri allure without the racial boons so available, how about allowing some level of magical item creation? That would give interest (I would imagine) to get people to go to make an item that suits their character, yet allow for some degree of control as it is right there with the people in charge.
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Saint- Synthesist and Undead Lords were removed because they literally do not exist in the world, this is the same reason the Non Gunslinger Archtypes that add guns don't exist either. The PFS wealth system can be tied to more of a paycheck than anything else, you are this level this is what you get paid for hard missions and this is what you get paid for regular missions.
To the rest of you that are still complaining about no local cons and this is going to sound mean but if you can come on the internet to complain about PFS and how races are only given out this way then you can logon to a virtual con online and earn one the same way or you can do what a lot of us have done and organize one yourself to earn that shiny race boon.
To be honest I am a fan of allowing cool races from time to time like they did with aasimar, tiefling, and tengu, but I am not sure how rotating races would work and I don't think it really would work that well. There are always going to be people complaining about something they can't have for whatever reason and Paizo has done a pretty fantastic job of offering incentives. We now see archtypes that are otherwise banned opened up via chronicle sheets, the same goes with certain spells, and this system seems to be mostly working. I am sure Mike and John have some ideas in the works, but I honestly like the way cool races are given out now. Heck they have event started rotating which race boons are given out during the year so people that do help with cons don't end up with multiples of the same race.
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How does "racial cycling" make an ounce of in game sense, though?
The Pathfinder Society has a long history of hiring on a batch of one demographic and then never doing so again. Goblins, Fetchlings, Grippli, whatever.
They had the occasional Tiefling and Aasimar. Once other planetouched found out that the Society would welcome them, they showed up in droves. But there's only so many in the world--we're reaching the point where the ones who wanted to run away and become adventurers have done so. Now they'll trickle in occasionally again.
Re: Tengu, sure. A boatload of refugees showed up; the end.
Since Season 3, when Tengu and the occasional Nagaji/Kitsune were stomping around Tian Xia, a boatload each of Nagaji and Kitsune have been preparing for their own pilgrimage.
The Fetchlings working for the Society have been petitioning the Decemvirate to pull in their cousins, too.
The Goblins have worked out surprisingly well, so the Society decides to bring in some Kobolds on a very limited basis, probably from the tribes they've dealt with in the past.
Half-Orcs have been crusading for recognized rights as citizens of Absalom and are demanding that full Orcs be recruited to make their point.
The Society needs a favor or six in Kaer Maga, and as a result, the person they're dealing with finds it amusing to require that they allow access to some of KM's wackier citizens.
I can keep going. Throw me a race, I'll pitch you a reason. This is a fictional world; the limit is quite literally our imagination.
Synthesist and Undead Lords were removed because they literally do not exist in the world
Pretty sure Synthesists were removed because they're hell of broken.
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Saint- Synthesist and Undead Lords were removed because they literally do not exist in the world, this is the same reason the Non Gunslinger Archtypes that add guns don't exist either. The PFS wealth system can be tied to more of a paycheck than anything else, you are this level this is what you get paid for hard missions and this is what you get paid for regular missions.
I'm pretty sure that that is incorrect. The synthesist was banned for balance concerns without any retconnig of Golarion as a whole. Your idea holds a little more water with regard to the firearm wielding archetypes, although it is not like there are a shortage of guns in Golarion overall. Why try to defend the PFS wealth rules from a logical perspective? There is no need to. House rules don't have to be justified and while it is arbitrary, the PFS wealth rules are necessary for the type of game that PFS is.
To the rest of you that are still complaining about no local cons and this is going to sound mean but if you can come on the internet to complain about PFS and how races are only given out this way then you can logon to a virtual con online and earn one the same way or you can do what a lot of us have done and organize one yourself to earn that shiny race boon.
Holy condescension, Batman! so much missing the point going on here. Please remember that as far as I know, the online events did not give out races if they gave out boons at all, so that is not the solution you seem to think it is. Secondly, please remember that the boon support given out to smaller events does not include races except for DMs. So "just organize it" is a marginally useful suggestion, but it will only get you the elemental race of the moment and not any of the other shiny races. Keep in mind that many PFS players live in very different circumstances from you and it might be impossible to get an event together of the requisite size in most places in the world.
Consider things from my perspective. I have been playing PFS for two and a half years now and I have never even seen a character of a boon only race. I have played online and with members of multiple PFS communities. While it might just be statistics that the multiple dozens of characters I have played alongside did not include any restricted races it is also important to accept that there is a very very uneven distribution of boons throughout the PFS community that needs to be rectified. It is only in the last few months that I have gotten a shiny boon at all and that is only thanks to PFSs outreach beyond big cons and places where there is already plenty of gaming. There are many others speaking from my perspective in this thread and I hope that as a VO, you will take heed of them.
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This year, I ran 8 slots at GenCon. While that was certainly no small time expenditure (32 hours of running + ~24 hours of prep), I walked away with:
-admission to the Con
-a space in a hotel room
-$90 store credit ($10 per table plus a bit extra for helping out the kids' track)
-a very nice GM boon
-a handful of excellent non-race boons
-an awesome convention experience (including a table of Bonekeep II run by the inimitable John Compton!)
And all it cost me was my time and the price of gas to get there. Paizo's made it extremely feasible for just about anyone who's interested in attending a con to have the chance to go. So please don't say that attending a giant con isn't an option for the average gamer; you might just have to get a bit creative.
As far as opening up new races goes, I've been pretty disappointed by this last wave of race-opening, and I don't think we should start another without some serious changes (such as, for example, some of the ones the lovely derhii or Shivok suggested). About a third of the characters in my area are Tieflings or Aasimars (with a handful of Tengu). Many players make their very first characters from one of those races, never actually getting a chance to play "normal" characters. In continuity, it's completely altered the face of the Society on Golarion: when people think of pathfinders, they'll almost certainly recall tales of slavering demonspawn and frightful extraplanar warriors over those of average humanoids. Before consider requesting any new races, we really need to sit back and evaluate that impact.
For reasons of SCIENCE: I'm 22.
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And all it cost me was my time and the price of gas to get there. Paizo's made it extremely feasible for just about anyone who's interested in attending a con to have the chance to go. So please don't say that attending a giant con isn't an option for the average gamer; you might just have to get a bit creative.
Again, you are speaking from the perspective of someone living within driving distance of a major American metropolitan area. I live in Singapore so it would cost me quite a bit more than a weekend and tank of gas to go to a big con, the nearest of which for me is in Australia literally a continent away. The only way for Paizo to make it "extremely feasible" for me to go to a giant con would be to pick up the tab for my plane ticket.
There are many players living in areas even more remote from gaming and cons than me so no, it really isn't an option for me and many many other players. I would have to get creative to the tune of $3000 for just the plane tickets alone to do so. Maybe $1000 if I am lucky and I find a con in Australia.
Again I ask that people remember that PFS needs to reach out to build more far-reaching communities. Part of that is allowing people in those communities who likely cannot get hte con experience that you are lucky enough to be able to attend to also participate fully in the experiences an rewards of PFS play.
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I would hold back on opening up races and limit the ones we have opened up on.
To make things easier for all folks to access boons, each Season release a tracking sheet that allows the player to keep track of which scenarios they have played / GM'ed. After they get sign-off on all of the scenarios for a season (by your local VC so they can verify you actually did play those games), that sheet then becomes a legal race boon of one of two races.
Each season could be its own separate race boons. Season 0 could be either a aasimar or tiefling. Season 1 could be an ifrit or undine. Season 2 could be etc.
This makes it fair for old and new players alike, and circumvents needing to go to a convention for obtaining a race boon (but makes it easier if you do because of the # of games you can play).
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Sounds good your idea Caubo.
Only one thing i would hint at is that it seems you want players and GM´s to play/run all scenarios of one season. One season is about a year. If you are able to play/run once a week, that will be very fine.
If you are only able to play/run every two weeks, that might already get a bit difficult.
Now take some people that can only play/run once a month, it gets even more difficult.
It seems there are a lot of people who have a lot of time and a lot of other people to play, but many others don´t have that oportunities.
For some reason i believe that many of those people without that much time are very good costumers of Paizo too (maybe even betters than the others because something lets me presume they have more money.)
Guess there could be a bit of a balance between that, so no one gets alienated. Don´t stick goals too high.
But then there could also be different sets of races for playing and gamemastering.
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And all it cost me was my time and the price of gas to get there. Paizo's made it extremely feasible for just about anyone who's interested in attending a con to have the chance to go. So please don't say that attending a giant con isn't an option for the average gamer; you might just have to get a bit creative.Again, you are speaking from the perspective of someone living within driving distance of a major American metropolitan area. I live in Singapore so it would cost me quite a bit more than a weekend and tank of gas to go to a big con, the nearest of which for me is in Australia literally a continent away. The only way for Paizo to make it "extremely feasible" for me to go to a giant con would be to pick up the tab for my plane ticket.
There are many players living in areas even more remote from gaming and cons than me so no, it really isn't an option for me and many many other players. I would have to get creative to the tune of $3000 for just the plane tickets alone to do so. Maybe $1000 if I am lucky and I find a con in Australia.
Again I ask that people remember that PFS needs to reach out to build more far-reaching communities. Part of that is allowing people in those communities who likely cannot get hte con experience that you are lucky enough to be able to attend to also participate fully in the experiences an rewards of PFS play.
Strange since I sent 6 new boons, including one race boon, to SmiteCon in Singapore that was held .Sep 20-22. Did they not get used?
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If you can play / run every 2 weeks, you can get a race boon every year.
If there isn't at least some base minimum requirement for folks to meet, then there is no point in having race boons. You might as well just open up all races (which is something I am vehemently against). Just because you play the game, that does not mean you should get a boon.
Venture-Lieutenant, Washington—Pullman
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Sounds good your idea Caubo.
Only one thing i would hint at is that it seems you want players and GM´s to play/run all scenarios of one season. One season is about a year. If you are able to play/run once a week, that will be very fine.
If you are only able to play/run every two weeks, that might already get a bit difficult.
Now take some people that can only play/run once a month, it gets even more difficult.
Agreed some people do have more opportunities to play than others. Caubo's idea is to help alleviate the growing angst of "We have no cons in my area so I never can have the cool Boons."
If it takes a person two years(because they only play once a month) to get a race boon when they have no opportunity to play at conventions, that is still an increase in the amount of Race boons they would receive.
Will some people get more out of it than others? Yes, but it is a better solution than hearing the same sad song and people getting upset when somebody tells em to go to a con and deal with it.
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Strange since I sent 6 new boons, including one race boon, to SmiteCon in Singapore that was held .Sep 20-22. Did they not get used?
I was there and had a great time. There were 5 boons available to be rolled for, none of which was a race boon.
I got an Extra Hours and a Custom Order and I couldn't be happier at my chance to fully participate in the campaign. I would also like to thank you and the leadership again for reaching out to events in smaller communities especially internationally.
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If you can play / run every 2 weeks, you can get a race boon every year.
If there isn't at least some base minimum requirement for folks to meet, then there is no point in having race boons. You might as well just open up all races (which is something I am vehemently against). Just because you play the game, that does not mean you should get a boon.
What on earth is the possible logical connection between playing the game at a big convention and playing the game in a more local setting? What makes a large convention more race boony than regular meetings at flgs?
To make things easier for all folks to access boons, each Season release a tracking sheet that allows the player to keep track of which scenarios they have played / GM'ed. After they get sign-off on all of the scenarios for a season (by your local VC so they can verify you actually did play those games), that sheet then becomes a legal race boon of one of two races.
Again, this is set up for someone in a densely populated area where you can easily access your VC. I'm not even sure who my VC would be (probably met them last month at a con though)
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To make things easier for all folks to access boons, each Season release a tracking sheet that allows the player to keep track of which scenarios they have played / GM'ed. After they get sign-off on all of the scenarios for a season (by your local VC so they can verify you actually did play those games), that sheet then becomes a legal race boon of one of two races.
See, I like this. I like this a lot, and I'd like campaign staff to take a look, because this is very feasible. I'd tweak it just a little, though: Play or GM them all, get one race (your choice). Play and GM them all, get both races.
Make it retroactive--one for each of season 0-5--and then don't put a time limit on it. Give people a reason to go for the old stuff and the new stuff, and a reason to GM a lot ... and it doesn't require any effort from the campaign staff except printing out a checklist of scenarios with two boxes next to each, and a three-line boon at the bottom that gives access to the two races. The only campaign decision would be deciding which races go with which season. Boom.
Edit: Exempt the retired scenarios, obviously. Put a note in the download instructions that come with the boon sheet that if it contains any retired scenarios, they should be crossed off (just in case something gets retired later).
Edit edit: Do make it so it's any GM signing, not a VL, though. If I get audited I'll need to prove that I've done them all, and so be it, but not everyone sees their VOs on a regular basis (or at all).
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If it takes a person two years(because they only play once a month) to get a race boon when they have no opportunity to play at conventions, that is still an increase in the amount of Race boons they would receive.And it is the most important increase from "zero" to "an amount more than zero".
Yes. I'd rather have a dollar than not have a dollar.
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That's fine, retired scenarios should be exempted.
I also agree it should be retroactive and without a time limit. That means new players and old players alike can focus on playing / GMing in specific seasons to get a particular race boon.
Also, you won't get the current Season's race boon until GenCon. So you can still keep track of all the scenarios included in the current season, and you will still get credit for them. I also like the fact it rewards both players and GMs for being active in the community.
I still want VCs to sign-off, because they can look up your history to make sure you actually have played / GM'ed the scenarios in a Season. You can e-mail them a digital copy for them to review. This is important enough that I do not want just anyone to be able to sign-off.
Now folks may complain about having to e-mail this to their local VC, but this is making the cost of this boon practically nothing besides playing / GMing games and finding some way to get sign-off by your VC. If this is too much, then I don't know how to help you.
Lastly, if you don't play that much, you won't get much utility from a race boon to begin with. So this program just rewards folks who are more active in the community than those who are not.
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StuffThat's fine, retired scenarios should be exempted.
I still want VCs to sign-off, because they can look up your history to make sure you actually have played / GM'ed the scenarios in a Season. You can e-mail them a digital copy for them to review. This is important enough that I do not want just anyone to be able to sign-off.
Now folks may complain about having to e-mail this to their local VC, but this is making the cost of this boon practically nothing besides playing / GMing games and finding some way to get sign-off by your VC. If this is too much, then I don't know how to help you.
I don't see any reason a VL couldn't verify sheets so long as they are physical. I seriously doubt a VC wants to get swamped with requests to look up a play history and validate the claims.
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It could be auto-generated. Once a month, query the database. Anyone who has credit for every scenario in a season gets the boon. Anyone who has both player and GM credit for every scenario in a season gets the second boon. Watermarked and everything. Then there's no need for verification, no need to bug the VOs, and no need to even print out the checklist.
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It could be auto-generated. Once a month, query the database. Anyone who has credit for every scenario in a season gets the boon. Anyone who has both player and GM credit for every scenario in a season gets the second boon. Watermarked and everything. Then there's no need for verification, no need to bug the VOs, and no need to even print out the checklist.
That's under the assumption Paizo IT has the resources available to do this. But that's a Paizo issue, not one for us to figure out. But definitely a good idea.
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That's under the assumption Paizo IT has the resources available to do this. But that's a Paizo issue, not one for us to figure out. But definitely a good idea.
True. But assuming the database is available for queries--which one would certainly hope--it would only require the initial scripting, then it could be rerun monthly, at night, while everyone's home sleeping--or so one would certainly hope. ;)
Depending on how the database is structured, it might need to be hand-scripted for each season (if #1 & #2 & #3), but even then it only needs to be updated once a year, after the initial scripting, which shouldn't take too terribly long by itself.
Edit: ... theoretically. ;p
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I still want VCs to sign-off, because they can look up your history to make sure you actually have played / GM'ed the scenarios in a Season.
AHHH.. ok, thats why you want to do it that way. That makes more sense.
It does get problematic if you have a dm that doesn't report though. What were you proposing as the requirement? All the seasons scenarios? One non report and you might not be able to collect your prize.
You can e-mail them a digital copy for them to review. This is important enough that I do not want just anyone to be able to sign-off.
I can't see the point in treating this like national security.
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I like Joes idea ....but there is a problem with it ....and maybe it only affects me and some people I know ....but I have about 10-20 scenarios played that would not be confirmable since the GMS never reported them online ....I have chronicles and that's the important part ....but using online reported scenarios as a gauge would all be subject to people's lack of lazieness
Idea is good ....excellent actually ....but for that one issue
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I like Joes idea ....but there is a problem with it ....and maybe it only affects me and some people I know ....but I have about 10-20 scenarios played that would not be confirmable since the GMS never reported them online ....I have chronicles and that's the important part ....but using online reported scenarios as a gauge would all be subject to people's lack of lazieness
Idea is good ....excellent actually ....but for that one issue
So hound the GMs until they report. If they won't do it, contact their VOs. If they don't do it, contact Mike. Reporting is important. If you have 10-20 scenarios unreported in your play history, you should knock some heads together.
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While I like the idea of opening up new races for general access and some of the ideas for race boon access have been pretty good ideas, i do have an issue with removing races we currently have access to without boons. I don't see a whole lot of Tengus in my area (Tiefling and Aasimars on the other hand are popular non-core races) but I do get a lot of players who would love to play some of the boon only races (myself included and I am still kicking myself from Paizocon 2013 and I will be at Paizocon 2014 to, hopefully, take another opportunity to fix that error) but they have no possible way of attending the larger cons (mostly financial). PFS in my area is a work in progress so a minicon, while a good idea, currently would not garner the number of tables needed to make race boons available (something I am working to fix before August 2015 for Worldcon).
There are so many races I would love to see open up for general availability (Samsarans, Sylph, Undines, Naga, and Kitsune to name some) but I understand the incentive that the race boons present.
Well, there is my 2cp worth.
PS: Jiggy, 44 for the record.
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Strange since I sent 6 new boons, including one race boon, to SmiteCon in Singapore that was held .Sep 20-22. Did they not get used?I was there and had a great time. There were 5 boons available to be rolled for, none of which was a race boon.
I have noticed a trend of Race Boons being for GMs only. There is a possibility that the Race boon make gave for the con was given to the GMs only.
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So looking at this thread we can actually have a compromise of sorts:
A possible solution would be that: If a player completes either by GMing or playing every scenario for 1 season he gets a race boon(race list TBD by PFS Mgmt). This race boon would be for an Uncommon exotic race
If a player GM/plays 2 complete seasons worth of PFS scenarios he/she gets access to another race boon. This time its for a Rare exotic race(race list TBD by PFS Mgmt).
If a player GMs/Plays 3 complete seasons worth of PFS scenarios he/she gets access to yet another race boon. This time its for a Very Rare exotic race (race list TBD by PFS Mgmt).
In order to qualify for any race boon the player must have a VO verify that he has played these games and then sign off on a sheet similar to the new item sheet we have for season 5.
Once a VO certifies the accuracy of the players record he will contact PFS leadership for the boon. If a player lives in a remote area then he will contact the nearest VC to his locale
If those games are not reported sorry you don't qualify for a boon, no exceptions. If the GM you play with doesn't report them start making a list with you're fellow players and report the game yourself (and report the GM so we can provide him guidance).
Extremely rare races will still only be given out Major cons or special events. Sorry you cant get everything you want.
All race boons will still be given out occasionally at Cons worldwide as it is now.
This would apply to PFS Seasons 1-5. Season 0 is excluded due to the retired scenarios not making a complete 26 Scenario season.
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My vote is to grandfather out Aasimar and Tiefling. It'd be nice to keep them in, but I believe the consensus is that in terms of power they are a clear head above all other races. I'd like to see Tengu kept in as I like that race a lot, but I can see why they would need to be grandfathered out for setting specific reasons.
I do not think new races should become opened to all players. I think they would be better suited to the PFS Lottery idea that's been mentioned over the last few months on the boards. Either that, or another incentive for new GMs for the Society.
Age: 27.
