Not especially, no. It makes you pretty MAD. Charisma, Strength, Constitution, and I think Wisdom.
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What works well with the Viking is the thunder and fang feat.
You end up having a mainhand weapon that deals 2d6 and retain your shield bonus while doing a shield bash.
Combine that with the trait that increases your shield bash damage by 1 and you should have a nice setup.
If done as a human you can have T&F up and running as fast as no other class. You are already somewhat MAD because of the TWF prerequisite of Dex.
Wow, I was going to say that the multiclass wouldn't work. As i thought that you needed to be non lawful to rage (As the barbarian class states), but that is not listed under the actual rage ability. The viking archtype also does not have any alignment restrictions.
Vikings aren't really a lawful bunch, but guess you can have a lawful one and still rage. Weird.
No, it says so under ex-barbarians, you'll lose the ability to rage if you become lawful.
I figured out a pretty strong build using mounted orc or half-orc vikings, but you need two approximately the same.
They each take mounted combat, ride-by attack, spirited charge, the beast totem line, amplified rage, coordinated charge, one other teamwork feat and leadership. Their cohorts are both half-orc barbarian 1/synthesist summoner X with the amplified rage feat.
The trick is to ride your cohort, who rages at the same time as you. You then both gain the big bonus from amplified rage. Now you can ragelancepounce a target and ride-by a good distance past it. Your partner is also using amplified rage with his cohort/mount and he can ragelancepounce the same enemy as an immediate action using coordinated charge. You can then ragelancepounce the same target AGAIN with your own immediate action. When your partener's turn comes around, he can ragelancepounce once, but you don't have an immediate action, so you have to wait a full round to repeat the triple combo.
Yeah, but this is a fighter, not a barbarian. You gain the Rage class feature, you do not gain the barbarian alignment restrictions along with them, the same way you don't get trap sense and uncanny dodge.
I see.
XMorsX,
You are a worse enemy for your buddies than any monsters with a build like that. You will fail any Will saving throw, and any Charm type ability will have you murder your own team.
i don't have time to try to put together a whole build, but if you want to mix pally with viking i'd look at the fey foundling feat and the celestial totem- good a ton of mileage from heals.
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I'd go with Intimidating Prowess and Cornugon Smash to get the most out of your intimidation, and then Superstitious/Witch Hunter/Spell Sunder for rage powers, along with Reckless Abandon and Strength Surge.
I'd avoid the TWF route. I know it's probably "optimal" but IMO the investment versus the payoff isn't great.
Defender of the Society is a good trait since you aren't going to be getting heavy armor, and anything that gives you a bonus to intimidate should probably be your next bet.
I'd make a Viking 6 Paladin 6+ with Fey foundling, and celestial totem. Can really heal yourself well, have a good charisma for intimidating, good saves and AC, seems viable to me.
Paladin 14 (Sacred Shield) / Fighter 6 (Viking).
Celestial totem is the only Rage power you really want, and although you miss out on Greater Weapon Focus, you'll gain 4th level paladin spells - worth the exchange to me. Between Antagonize-as-a-move, 5/day half damage for your party (assuming they move smartly), nice AC bonuses for everyone, etc, it should be pretty good times to be a tank.
If you want more offense, I can't look much beyond TWF, but that's A. a lot of feats and B. suddenly an extra stat you need to work on.
Take a level dip into Mad Dog Barbarian to get an animal companion mount. Choose dire tiger or roc. And it is a level of barbarian which should stack for abilities.
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What works well with the Viking is the thunder and fang feat.
You end up having a mainhand weapon that deals 2d6 and retain your shield bonus while doing a shield bash.Combine that with the trait that increases your shield bash damage by 1 and you should have a nice setup.
If done as a human you can have T&F up and running as fast as no other class. You are already somewhat MAD because of the TWF prerequisite of Dex.
This was going to be my suggestion as well. A human Viking can have the Thunder and Fang feat up and running at 2nd level and mechanically it is perfectly suited to the Viking archetype. I actually tend to go with more balanced stats with the Viking instead of dumping, you'll be getting Rage and you've got a class ability that is better if you didn't dump CHA. There's a couple of traits and feats in the People of The North (as well as a lot of other places) that'll help you boost your WIS, so I usually grab at least a Will-boosting trait and then snag Superstition as a Rage power when I get the chance.
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You'd still substract your CHA mod. So a negative CHA is still undesirable.Yes it is undesirable. But it is no big deal, especially as you gain levels and increase your strenght. In my case, I just cannot afford raising it. A build that does not take the TWF feats can have a zero or even positive modifier.
You don't have to have 18,16,16 in your starting stats. Considering you don't even get Rage until 4th level you can afford to shave a point or two from CON, and the same is true of STR. Just a couple points in those two spots gives you enough points to run without dump stats and have something other than a near imbecilic death machine, at least negating the negatives to your mental stats, if not actually leaving enough to give you a positive modifier.
Superstition as a Rage power when I get the chance.
I don't think Superstition is worth the tradeoff without human barbarian FCB.
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Apparently we're using 25 points, which is pretty sweet for the Viking/Paladin as it'll help with his mad MAD.
And I'm pretty set on playing a human (Ulfen).
Str 16
Dex 14
Con 14
Int 10
Wis 10
Cha 14+2 from human to any physical stat.. not sure which.
Feats are going to be tight for this, however, if the majority of levels are paladin (as they probably should be).
You need to put that +2 into DEX so you can take the TWF feats.
If he goes Viking/Paladin he may not have the feats for TWF, especially if he also plans on Fae Upbringing. Plan your feats to level 11 or so and pick your dex accordingly. Remember that you should aim for mithril full plate (you are proficient from paladin, and it counts as medium for purposes of the Viking abilities).