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The discrepancy is probably because its release date is July 24th.
link. The additional resources will be updated after then, so I think that yes it will be available by/for GenCon.
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Hmm. Did anyone mention anywhere if this would be before or after Gencon?
Additional Resources is updated on the day of the release of the product, so in 2 weeks on the 31st it will be updated, which is before Gen Con.
Release day is always on a Wednesday, most of the time the third, this month it is the 4th Wednesday.
Mike Brock had indicated in the product thread (for this book) that this will replace the Field Guide.
My issue is the book is only 32 pages, where SoS and the FG were both 64. It's not really going to be a comparative replacement in regards to information.
But I won't make the final judegement until actually looking at the book.
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It seems like a nice book but it really does not stand on its own.
It provides some new ioun stones and resonance powers (where the full concept is described in Seekers of Secrets).
There are new Wayfinders but it references The Inner Sea World
Guide, Seekers of Secrets and Pathfinder Society Field Guide.
There are new vanities but it references the Faction Guide and Pathfinder Society Field Guide.
There is also a bunch of cool new feats, items, spells and background material about the Pathfinder Society but it does not contain all the related material in one volume.
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Are we sure it will replace the field guide? I think that it may join it on the core assumptions rather than replace. There will still be useful and valid information in the field guide. I did not see any/much content from the field guide duplicated in the new book.
Judging from the last time a new book (Pathfinder Society Field Guide) was added to the Core Assumption, the book in the lineup it was replacing (Seeker of Secrets) was removed, although it was pretty much added as everything available in the Additional Resources list.
You may want to wait for my review of this book. I was... underwhelmed.The Primer will not be added to the Core Assumption when Guide 5.0 is released.Huh. That's a surprise. Oh well, still gonna get it. :)
Which makes it even more suprising that it's supposed to replace the Field Guide.
it's supposed to replace the Field Guide.The Primer will not be added to the Core Assumption when Guide 5.0 is released.
Then I'm confused:
Is this expected to replace the Field Guide in the default assumption?Yes
But then my post was from January, so I guess it maybe has changed.
Probably for the better as this is only 32 pages, where the Field Guide is double that.
Although it would be nice to have a replacement for the Field Guide, considering we will be losing two factions.
And Jiggy already pointed that quote out, which then I posted a quote from Mike that said the Primer was replacing the Field Guide.
However, as mine was from January, there is probably a good chance it might have changed.
Either way, the information does conflict.
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Things change. It actually does not make sense that a Companion would replace a Campaign Setting Guide, at least not to me.
That said, I really enjoyed this one. I picked up quite a few things that I would like to use within.
I understand what CRobledo says, and have often been disappointed because I expected something that wasn't there. But then I take a step back and look at it as what it is, not what I want it to be.
That being said, I should probably try my hand at writing a review someday...
Things change. It actually does not make sense that a Companion would replace a Campaign Setting Guide, at least not to me.
Yes, I agree with you.
To be honest, when the time comes to replace the Field Guide, I hope it will be done with a Campaign Setting book and not a Companion book. You would be cutting the information in half, and where there are going to be two less factions, a lot of other types of information would need to be cut out as well.
I would like the replacement book to be just as robust as Seekers of Secrets and the Field Guide.
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That said, I really enjoyed this one. I picked up quite a few things that I would like to use within.
I understand what CRobledo says, and have often been disappointed because I expected something that wasn't there. But then I take a step back and look at it as what it is, not what I want it to be.
Maybe that's a better way to put it, I may have been expecting something different (in my case, a bit more crunch). Other than one spell, one vanity and maybe 2 traits, I don't think I would take anything else in this book.
Some of the fluff (the map of the inner sea with all the lodges marked, and the center fold with the 6-lodge spotlight come to mind) is quite good.
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I like the Cut your Losses feat, and I am planning to take that with my soon-to-be-ex Shadow Lodger. I also liked the differentiation between the two types of Pathfinders, Classically-trained and Field Commission.
I really liked the added bonuses that you had access to based on which lodge you start your mission in. It added flavor to the different lodges.
Of course the new followers were neat, and the Property Broker vanity was crazy awesome for helping fellow pathfinders, but how that will be tracked is potentially problematic.
So, all in all, I liked way more than 4 things in this one.
I would like to see an updated Field Guide, especially if we get a new faction... or possible new faction prestige title for the Grand Lodge (especially since they kinda feel blah...) but it's all good! I am loving it all so far! ;)
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I liked that they also gave more information on the three branches of the society; the Scrolls, the Spells and the Swords. I wish they had included a method to align your character with one of the branches (other than RP of course, which you can totally do) - like a trait for each branch.
Mechanically I don't think there is any restriction from mixing traits/feats/whatever from the various branches or from mixing things for being trained vs being field commissioned.
Am I the only one that liked the Pathfinder Society Field Agent Prestige class? I thought it was very flavorful and pretty sound mechanically.
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When we added the Field Guide to the Core Assumption in place of Seekers of Secrets, a lot of people felt that the campaign was forcing them to buy more products. Rather than risk angering people who don't like the requirement to own something they may or may not ever use, we decided to let players who want the great character options available in this book to purchase it and use it, and to let those who don't want to purchase anything but the Core Rulebook participate in the campaign with no further buy-in. Thus, we currently have no plans to add this book to the Core Assumption. That doesn't preclude us from adding this or any other book to the list at a future date, but as of now, this book will not be a required purchase for all players participating in the campaign.
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we decided to let players who want the great character options available in this book to purchase it and use it, and to let those who don't want to purchase anything but the Core Rulebook participate in the campaign with no further buy-in.
Does that mean that the Field Guide is coming out of the core assumption?
Edit: I'm not just nitpicking wording; since it's now out of date (two retired factions), removing it from the core assumption would made sense.
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I have a rules question about the Field Agent prestige class. Does the ability that grants increased spellcasting progression only apply to a single level, or does it give one level for every Field Agent level taken?
Only providing a single level seems incredibly underpowered, but I'm not sure if providing full spellcasting progression is intended.
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I have a rules question about the Field Agent prestige class. Does the ability that grants increased spellcasting progression only apply to a single level, or does it give one level for every Field Agent level taken?
Only providing a single level seems incredibly underpowered, but I'm not sure if providing full spellcasting progression is intended.
Unfortunately it seems its a single level, here's a link to a dev post.
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we decided to let players who want the great character options available in this book to purchase it and use it, and to let those who don't want to purchase anything but the Core Rulebook participate in the campaign with no further buy-in.Does that mean that the Field Guide is coming out of the core assumption?
Edit: I'm not just nitpicking wording; since it's now out of date (two retired factions), removing it from the core assumption would made sense.
Yes, the Field Guide is being removed from the core assumption.
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Yes, the Field Guide is being removed from the core assumption.we decided to let players who want the great character options available in this book to purchase it and use it, and to let those who don't want to purchase anything but the Core Rulebook participate in the campaign with no further buy-in.Does that mean that the Field Guide is coming out of the core assumption?
Edit: I'm not just nitpicking wording; since it's now out of date (two retired factions), removing it from the core assumption would made sense.
The Field Guide is still a legal source?
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The Field Guide is still a legal source?Yes, the Field Guide is being removed from the core assumption.we decided to let players who want the great character options available in this book to purchase it and use it, and to let those who don't want to purchase anything but the Core Rulebook participate in the campaign with no further buy-in.Does that mean that the Field Guide is coming out of the core assumption?
Edit: I'm not just nitpicking wording; since it's now out of date (two retired factions), removing it from the core assumption would made sense.
I certainly hope so, or I know a couple of lore warden fighters who will be in trouble. Not to mention all the other stuff I've used from it on my PC's - Taldan noble title, Shining Wayfinder for my Silver Crusade cleric, etc.
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I certainly hope so, or I know a couple of lore warden fighters who will be in trouble. Not to mention all the other stuff I've used from it on my PC's - Taldan noble title, Shining Wayfinder for my Silver Crusade cleric, etc.The Field Guide is still a legal source?Yes, the Field Guide is being removed from the core assumption.we decided to let players who want the great character options available in this book to purchase it and use it, and to let those who don't want to purchase anything but the Core Rulebook participate in the campaign with no further buy-in.Does that mean that the Field Guide is coming out of the core assumption?
Edit: I'm not just nitpicking wording; since it's now out of date (two retired factions), removing it from the core assumption would made sense.
Seeker of Secrets is still legal. It should just be removed as a core assumption, so it would just be treated as any other Additional Resource.
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Seeker of Secrets is still legal. It should just be removed as a core assumption, so it would just be treated as any other Additional Resource.I certainly hope so, or I know a couple of lore warden fighters who will be in trouble. Not to mention all the other stuff I've used from it on my PC's - Taldan noble title, Shining Wayfinder for my Silver Crusade cleric, etc.The Field Guide is still a legal source?Yes, the Field Guide is being removed from the core assumption.we decided to let players who want the great character options available in this book to purchase it and use it, and to let those who don't want to purchase anything but the Core Rulebook participate in the campaign with no further buy-in.Does that mean that the Field Guide is coming out of the core assumption?
Edit: I'm not just nitpicking wording; since it's now out of date (two retired factions), removing it from the core assumption would made sense.
Whew.
Btw, if each season of PFS is going to have/face such changes... why not make the "Pathfinder Society Books" aka, Seekers of Secrets, PFS Field Guide and Pathfinder Society Primer, into a numbered series?
Each new one, tied to 1 or 2 seasons and in-game Golarion years?
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The Field Guide is still a legal source?Yes, the Field Guide is being removed from the core assumption.we decided to let players who want the great character options available in this book to purchase it and use it, and to let those who don't want to purchase anything but the Core Rulebook participate in the campaign with no further buy-in.Does that mean that the Field Guide is coming out of the core assumption?
Edit: I'm not just nitpicking wording; since it's now out of date (two retired factions), removing it from the core assumption would made sense.
Yes, just not required.
