I already see creatures I put on this wish list such as thought eaters, brain moles, flying monkeys, dream dragons, more leshy, more angels, grays, and robots.
Hmmmm none of thise monsters do anything for me... This will indeed be the science fiction bestiary... cobgrats to all.
Creatures that can warp the minds of their victims, including the caller in darkness, thought eater, and the bizarre brain mole
Woaw, woaw, woaw, woaw... time out here...
- Caller in Darkness: psionic incorporeal undead creature made from the soul of a tortured victim.
- Brain Mole: psionic rodent which can transmit a disease that drains power points.
- Thought Eater: psionic skeletal avian creature from the Ethereal Plane which feed on people's thoughts... or power points...
See the common link here? Yeah... me too...
Aren't psionic creatures, as well as the whole psionic mecanic, WotC's IP? How did Paizo get its hands on that?
Oh, and don't point to Dreamscarred Press and their psionic books. That doesn't count, because these guys at DP are 3rd-parties, unlike Paizo. 3rd-parties MIGHT have an easier time dealing with exclusive stuff, but Paizo, as a 1st-party, cannot.
Good for them if they did, but... to me, that strikes me as shocking O_O
They were released under the OGL. It takes thirty seconds on google to find them in the old d20 srd.Creatures that can warp the minds of their victims, including the caller in darkness, thought eater, and the bizarre brain moleWoaw, woaw, woaw, woaw... time out here...
- Caller in Darkness: psionic incorporeal undead creature made from the soul of a tortured victim.
- Brain Mole: psionic rodent which can transmit a disease that drains power points.
- Thought Eater: psionic skeletal avian creature from the Ethereal Plane which feed on people's thoughts... or power points...See the common link here? Yeah... me too...
Aren't psionic creatures, as well as the whole psionic mecanic, WotC's IP? How did Paizo get its hands on that?
Oh, and don't point to Dreamscarred Press and their psionic books. That doesn't count, because these guys at DP are 3rd-parties, unlike Paizo. 3rd-parties MIGHT have an easier time dealing with exclusive stuff, but Paizo, as a 1st-party, cannot.
Good for them if they did, but... to me, that strikes me as shocking O_O
Oh... nevermind...
Wait, even the rules???
I thought Paizo said that they couldn't make psionic material due to being under WotC's control or something.
It doesn't mean those creature abilities will not be altered to fit psychic magic rules instead of psionics.
It doesn't mean those creature abilities will not be altered to fit psychic magic rules instead of psionics.
Oh... point taken...
Paizo didn't make psionic material because DSP already has a monopoly on that market and it would be stupid for them to try and take it. Most the psionic rules are upon the OGL and can be taken by anyone, only things that aren't are basically from Complete Psionic... which no one wanted in the first place.
As for the description, I'm really happy they have a new indian myth themed creature type to fit with occult adventures.
I wonder what else made into this book, new kaiju, oni, proteans, azata, hags, drakes, agathions, inevitables, sphinxes, aboleth, azura, kami, qlippoth, lamia, or linnorms.
I am sure there will be dinosaurs, demons, giant vermin of some kind, some 0HD races, creatures from classic literature, golems, terrain/element giants, lovecraftian horrors, and cryptids.
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Oh, and don't point to Dreamscarred Press and their psionic books. That doesn't count, because these guys at DP are 3rd-parties, unlike Paizo. 3rd-parties MIGHT have an easier time dealing with exclusive stuff, but Paizo, as a 1st-party, cannot.
They apparently also have a much easier time publishing stuff that's actually balanced.
And Paizo "psionics" is just yet more vancian magic with a different label stuck in front of it. yawn
Paizo didn't make psionic material because DSP already has a monopoly on that market and it would be stupid for them to try and take it. Most the psionic rules are upon the OGL and can be taken by anyone, only things that aren't are basically from Complete Psionic... which no one wanted in the first place.
I agree that Complete Psionic was a major letdown...
However, I don't think that Paizo "let" DP publish psionic materials. I see it that DP just wanted to convert the whole thing for PF and did it. Paizo? I could have sworn that I've read an answer saying that they didn't have plans for psionics... at all...
You could say that DP beat them to it, but I say that Paizo never intended to make psionic materials. Beside... good luck including THIS into Golarion.
It was easy for WotC's Eberron due to Sarlona and the Kalashtars, but in Golarion? Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure...
"Occult" is very easy, because the world's cultures make it so. Same goes with alchemy, eidolons and firearms. Psionics however? No idea where to even introduce them if it was the case.
Then again people... Occult Adventures has the Kineticist... that can become a telekineticist with blasts, flying and even a "mind blade" using the Kinetic Blade talent.
I agree that Complete Psionic was a major letdown...However, I don't think that Paizo "let" DP publish psionic materials. I see it that DP just wanted to convert the whole thing for PF and did it. Paizo? I could have sworn that I've read an answer saying that they didn't have plans for psionics... at all...
You could say that DP beat them to it, but I say that Paizo never intended to make psionic materials. Beside... good luck including THIS into Golarion.
It was easy for WotC's Eberron due to Sarlona and the Kalashtars, but in Golarion? Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure...
"Occult" is very easy, because the world's cultures make it so. Same goes with alchemy, eidolons and firearms. Psionics however? No idea where to even introduce them if it was the case.
Then again people... Occult Adventures has the Kineticist... that can become a telekineticist with blasts, flying and even a "mind blade" using the Kinetic Blade talent.
It's really really easy to find places for psionics in golarion... since the original golarion had psionics. One of my friends even showed my this bit of pre-PF golarion fluff where the first psi-crystals were attuned to half-elves and half-elves possess the ability to change the colour of any crystal they touch.
Half-elves have always had an affinity for crystals and faceted gemstones, seeing in them a beautiful and poetic reflection of their own multifaceted character and identity, one that is easily obscured or missed until careful work reveals it. A common exhortation half-elves use with one another is to “polish your diamond,” meaning to refine, sharpen, and polish their best qualities that lie within. Beyond simply their aesthetic appreciation for crystals, some half-elves seem to show an almost supernatural connection, being able to induce minor prestidigitation-like effects in crystals they touch, causing the crystals to glow or change color or even dance about in the air. It was while researching this strange resonance that a pair of psionically endowed half-elves, Samelu Sonshima of Vudra and Alysande Morinel of Taldor, awakened the first psicrystals.
With a Fastachee, hopefully that means more Native American inspired monsters (I'd still love to see Katsinas as a monster type, although that may be treading a little too close to active real world religions for Paizo to want to deal with).
I wonder if Deep Ones will be a 0HD race? IIRC, they are in James Jacobs unpublished post apocalypse game.
Did they mention Deep Ones? I thought Skum were enough of a Pathfinder equivalent.
I also thought Skum were pathfinder's version of deep ones.
Deep Ones are listed in the product description?
Presumably there will be some niche differentation, or maybe Skum will be "pure" while Deep Ones will represent the half breeds?
Deep Ones for Cthulhu, and Skum for the Cthulhu expy known as Aboleths?
Deep Ones are listed in the product description
D'oh! So they are. I was looking in the wrong section of the description.
Presumably the Dream Dragon is one of the Esoteric Dragons. I wonder if there will be five (in keeping with other dragons), and what they will be?
I am sure that the dream dragon is one of the esoteric dragons but what could be the names of the others. Maybe astral, chakra, ethereal, esper, psychic, mind, spirit, life, nature, arcane, sacred, akashic, mystic, chi/ki, blood, bone, aether, quintessence, axiom, lore, and/or chaos.
Deep Ones for Cthulhu, and Skum for the Cthulhu expy known as Aboleths?That's a pretty poor expy.
In a 3rd edition book it talks about how Aboleth are rip-off's of Cthulhu in some detail.
I am sure that the dream dragon is one of the esoteric dragons but what could be the names of the others. Maybe astral, chakra, ethereal, esper, psychic, mind, spirit, life, nature, arcane, sacred, akashic, mystic, chi/ki, blood, bone, aether, quintessence, axiom, lore, and/or chaos.
I'd love to see a Nightmare Dragon, though I suspect the Dream Dragon is as close as we'll get.
So, I haven't been keeping up with the thread. Has anyone guessed/wished for grays? That seems so far out of left field. It's awesome.
I think I've seen wishes for Greys on the forums before, but the usual response was that Derro were more or less the Golarion equivalent of Greys.
I think I've seen wishes for Greys on the forums before, but the usual response was that Derro were more or less the Golarion equivalent of Greys.
That gives me little more hope for Ravid and Drop Bears, other creatures they would never do.
Seeing Deep ones, Almiraj and Greys appear, nothing is sertain.
Of course i'm wrong and my wish (the ravid) is the only thing that doesn't appear ever...
I was fine with Greys being Derro and Skum being Deep ones, but nothing comes even close to a ravid in behavior and appearance.
So, I haven't been keeping up with the thread. Has anyone guessed/wished for grays? That seems so far out of left field. It's awesome.
I had them on my wish list actually (a page or so back). I was surprise as hell we're actually getting them! :)
I hope they work the whole abduction angle into it! "Probed" could be a new "condition". :)
So, I haven't been keeping up with the thread. Has anyone guessed/wished for grays? That seems so far out of left field. It's awesome.I had them on my wish list actually (a page or so back). I was surprise as hell we're actually getting them! :)
I hope they work the whole abduction angle into it! "Probed" could be a new "condition". :)
I don't think they put in Greys because you wished for them so late, the bestiary 5 was probably already further before your wish.
I remember many people wishing for greys early in this topic.
But then again, everything sciencefiction and lovecrafian wished for in this topic will probably end up in bestiary 5.
And where is all this artwork for bestiary 5 where people are talking about, can't find any of it.
And where is all this artwork for bestiary 5 where people are talking about, can't find any of it.
http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5lhhh?PaizoCon-Product-Announcements-an d-Sneak-Peeks
So, I haven't been keeping up with the thread. Has anyone guessed/wished for grays? That seems so far out of left field. It's awesome.I had them on my wish list actually (a page or so back). I was surprise as hell we're actually getting them! :)
I hope they work the whole abduction angle into it! "Probed" could be a new "condition". :)
I don't think they put in Greys because you wished for them so late, the bestiary 5 was probably already further before your wish.
I remember many people wishing for greys early in this topic.
But then again, everything sciencefiction and lovecrafian wished for in this topic will probably end up in bestiary 5.
And where is all this artwork for bestiary 5 where people are talking about, can't find any of it.
Yeah, I don't think me wishing for them about a week ago made them happen- Just a lucky coincidence. :)
EDIT: You can find the artwork, under the Paizo blog announcements that came out in the last 24.
EDIT my EDIT: Milo beat me to it, with a proper link.
http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5lhhh?PaizoCon-Product-Announcements-an d-Sneak-Peeks
And where is all this artwork for bestiary 5 where people are talking about, can't find any of it.
Thanks!
The Dream Dragon looks stunning, finally a dragon I really like the art from, really hope the other dragons look 100% different, I really didn't like the Space Dragons from the Bestiary 4 because they were the same spare for colors.
Hsigo is perfect.
Grey is fun, one of the only sciencefiction creatuers I can see in a fantasy world.
Wood Colossus is stunning, best colossus by far.
That little guy with corns is Okish I guess, have to find out more about them, but if that is the only Native American monster that made it into the book I would be disappointed, so much more suiting Natives monsters out there.
The sciencefiction dude is something I really don't dig and really dislike.
But that dream dragon, by far my favorite already!
I'd be fine with the Annunaki... if it wasn't something from mythology.
I'd be fine with the Annunaki... if it wasn't something from mythology.
You don't want mythology monsters?
I'd be fine with the Annunaki... if it wasn't something from mythology.You don't want mythology monsters?
Annunaki is the mythology monster, that they turned into the sci-fiman. I would rather the mythology monsters were mythology monsters.
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Annunaki is the mythology monster, that they turned into the sci-fiman. I would rather the mythology monsters were mythology monsters.I'd be fine with the Annunaki... if it wasn't something from mythology.You don't want mythology monsters?
Technically, this guy did that. Paizo is just referencing his work. ^_^
Annunaki is the mythology monster, that they turned into the sci-fiman. I would rather the mythology monsters were mythology monsters.I'd be fine with the Annunaki... if it wasn't something from mythology.You don't want mythology monsters?
Ooh ok, then I agree with you!
What do they look like in mythology then?
EDIT: Oh, I see now on google, the real Annunaki are pretty awesome btw, never heard of them before but I will add them to my project, this SF thing however, isn't really the way they look on google.
I have been wishing for Grays for a while now along with thought eaters, brain moles, dream dragons, new angels, new leshy, robots, flying monkeys and a lot of other stuff.
This gives me hope that the Ravid just might be in this book:)
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Just out of curiosity, why is everyone so excited for the ravid?
Dragons made of pure life that overcharges the environment into becoming alive, and who are dare devils who fly next to stars, wait before they go supernova and then try to escape at the last moment... they're pretty cool.
It's not their boring appearance that I like, I like their ability to give life to inanimate objects, but I found a mythology creature (Tatty Bogle, the Scottish Scarecrow) that can do the same.
But since pathfinder already has a scarecrow, I would be happy with the Ravid.
Metalmaster-like creature would also be cool
And will we finally get teh Nekomata?
Just out of curiosity, why is everyone so excited for the ravid?
Seems like one of the few monsters that are still not in Pathfinder yet, but are still OGL.
We might not be seeing Beholders, Displacer Beasts and Mind Flayers anytime soon, but the Ravid is still a possibility.
Digesters say hello.
The Tojanida is in Bestiary 4.
I really hope that the Bakeneko, Nekomata and/or Cheshire Cat made it in.
I love the Ravid for it's appearance and ability to animate objects and because it's from the positive energy plane.
Digesters say hello.
I said "one of the few monsters". Pretty sure a few more could be converted.
Delvers and tojanida at least made it into Misfit Monsters Revisited. ^_^
Delvers could be in B5 as well. It's not like Paizo doesn't have a backlog of monsters anyway. Just check the huge lists of monsters from APs and such that I've made :P