Well there is a high possibility only 3 great old ones make it in every bestiary, so which ones do you like to see best?
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So, advocating for alien celestials some more, the mindset of some of Epic Meepo's Sephirah could be a really fun thing to explore with such beings. That and their Confounding Visage ability. :)
A lot of fun to be had with celestials who are so focused on the macro level of the cosmos(wellbeing of souls) that their ways of doing good can seem utterly alien to those who only see how they're affecting their lives.
I would like more groups of outsiders who do not eat, help, corrupt, protect, etc. or otherwise have anything to do with mortal souls.
More creatures who attack with/through portals. I really do miss the sharn though the vortex dragon got a fun ability similar.
Non-Ooze creatures with the split ability or something similar when hit with slashing attacks, maybe something else that can multiply with electricity.
A liquid metal ooze that feeds on metal or can pass through metal as if it wasn't there, form different weapons and shapes, can look like any creature of about the same size and it's damage can be slashing , piercing, or bludgeoning.
A more powerful type of Nixie that is a born position of power that happens with a female nixie called a "water mother" or something like that. I would like it to be around CR6, is invisible underwater, can control water, and some other abilities.
More creatures that can fuse together to form a bigger monster, kinda like the slimes from Dragon Quest.
Creatures with poison who's effects are not ability damage/drain, stuff like gaining vulnerability(or loss of immunity/resistance) to an energy type, starvation, thirst/dehydration, charm/domination effects, time stopped, HP damage, etc.
Well there is a high possibility only 3 great old ones make it in every bestiary, so which ones do you like to see best?
Great Old Ones :
Yibb-TstllQuachil Uttaus
and Nyarlathotep as his Masks: Black Man, Black Pharaoh, Bloated Woman, The Faceless God, Howler in the Dark-God of the Bloody Tongue,
if only 3 great old ones, because Masks is "One" Great Old one
and may be not in bestiary 5 - may be in other books or adventures ?Just as idea for Paizo, for future works?
I really want to see the Faceless Lord in bestiary 5, its my favorite demon lord!
But something inside me tells me there will be devil lords in bestiary 5 and not demon lord.
I'd love to see some kami lords, personally. JJ has mentioned that they exist, but there's no information on them (and I REALLY want one for my tengu inquisitor to worship)
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Keep your jaegers, i want jet jaguar.
(comments on Jeagers will be gleefully ignored until I watch Pacific Rim)
Yeah, when I say "giant mecha," I'm thinking of Evangelion (Yeah, I know they're not technically mecha), Gurren Lagann, Gundam, and GaoGaiGar.
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Well there is a high possibility only 3 great old ones make it in every bestiary, so which ones do you like to see best?
One thing I like about how Paizo has handled the Mythos thus far is that, other than their own creations, they've kept it pretty close to only Lovecraft himself's writing. If they stat up any more GOOs, I'd like to see the ones that Lovecraft himself wrote about first, whether in his own stories or in his "revisions".
Rhan-Tegoth
Ghatanothoa
And for a slightly less malign entity:
Nodens
I know for a fact that the Outer Gods cannot be given stats. If the Great Old Ones are Lovecraftian demon lords, then the Outer Gods are the actual gods. Azathoth, Yog-sothoth, and Nyarlathotep are immune to mortal warriors, being full deities rather than demigods.
Admittedly, my knowledge of Lovecraft lore is fairly limited (I only have a digital copy of Lovecraft's complete works, my Kindle died and I can't find the charger), that's something I know for a fact.
Anyway, I wonder how one would go about statting up Lox?
Keep your jaegers, i want jet jaguar.
well i'm glad somebody gets the reference ;)
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Well here is a question what creatures are there left to stat up from Lovecraft that can legally be used?
Yes, I also got the reference for Jet Jaguar.
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I'd like variants on existing creatures. I've already suggested something I use in my games - variant Medusae: The winged Euryale, and the serpent-bodied (lamia-like) Sthenno.
More stuff like that. I realize a lot of things can simply be done with templates, but its always great to have art to inspire us.
Also, regular-looking animals with unexpected abilities, like a fire-breathng elephant (that uses its trunk like a flame-thrower), or an ape that can stretch its limbs, or even a carnivorous horse (or any other normally vegetarian critter). I like it when my players get shocked/surprised by something totally unexpected. You give us more dragons, well... they pretty much know whats coming.
Lust is mostly a sin and angels are sinfree creatures. So I don't think a sex-based angel (most angels already look sexy BTW) is gonna happen anytime soon. :-p
Not an attack on your wish, just a thought before the entire anti-me gang starts to go berserk again.
Did god not say, "Go forth an multiply"?
And if Outsiders are unilaterally known for any one thing, its taking things to extremes. ;)
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I'd like to see the Chaturans/Chaturani from Dragon #358. They are the Lawful Neutral chess themed constructs from some other plane. Mechanus I think. Would it be possible to get them into Pathfinder?
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If it's from Dragon, then no. Although I'm sure there's not a copyright on chess piece constructs, so they could make their own.
I would like a marshwiggle.
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How about a Living Spell template? :)
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Guardian Dead - Good or Neutral "undead" that protect holy sites from thieves, robbers and adventurers.
Yes.
YES YES YES YES YES
The Crypt Thing was an excellent example of this across editions, but unfortunately fell victim to the "all undead have to be bad" decree when they showed up in the Bestiaries. I'd love to see that niche supported.
Because seriously...mummy paladin necropolis guards. Come on, that's beautiful.
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Some good and neutral aligned undead would be nice.
Some more good aligned aberrations would be cool as well.
If it's from Dragon, then no.
Why's that?
While looking through Bestiary 3 (my favorite) for ideas, I came to the sudden realization that Snuffleupagus is a Baku.
More mundane animals and variations please.
How about a Living Spell template? :)
Oh gods yes. I loved this template in MM3. Very unique and awesome.
If it's from Dragon, then no.Why's that?
Dungeon and Dragon Magazine are all owned and copyright by WotC, so there is no way Paizo can really use anything from them.
I see. On a related note I take it the spellweaver from monster manual 2 is also verboten for Pathfinder?
Could they get away with refluffing the Chaturani? Call them something else but keep the chess idea? Chess is kinda generic enough.
A search says no one has mentioned the Great Race of Yith in this thread. Can they put those in a future Pathfinder book?
I don't have a problem with all undead being evil, I kinda love that.
But I have a trouble with almost-all undead have to be humanoid. I like to see more non-human undead like the Bakekujira and the Nightshades (the cool ones, not the Nightwalker)
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Guardian Dead - Good or Neutral "undead" that protect holy sites from thieves, robbers and adventurers.Yes.
YES YES YES YES YES
The Crypt Thing was an excellent example of this across editions, but unfortunately fell victim to the "all undead have to be bad" decree when they showed up in the Bestiaries. I'd love to see that niche supported.
Because seriously...mummy paladin necropolis guards. Come on, that's beautiful.
I'm having those in my own campaign world ;D
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I'm having those in my own campaign world ;DGuardian Dead - Good or Neutral "undead" that protect holy sites from thieves, robbers and adventurers.Yes.
YES YES YES YES YES
The Crypt Thing was an excellent example of this across editions, but unfortunately fell victim to the "all undead have to be bad" decree when they showed up in the Bestiaries. I'd love to see that niche supported.
Because seriously...mummy paladin necropolis guards. Come on, that's beautiful.
Don't forget the holy khopeshes and sweet Egyptian headgear! :)
I see. On a related note I take it the spellweaver from monster manual 2 is also verboten for Pathfinder?
Could they get away with refluffing the Chaturani? Call them something else but keep the chess idea? Chess is kinda generic enough.
Spellweavers are closed content. As are Chaturani. However, the idea of chess piece constructs isn't copyright, and they could certainly make them with a different fluff. It'd be like copyrighting dragons or dwarves.
A search says no one has mentioned the Great Race of Yith in this thread. Can they put those in a future Pathfinder book?
Yithians are already in the Bestiary 3.
I don't have a problem with all undead being evil, I kinda love that.
But I have a trouble with almost-all undead have to be humanoid. I like to see more non-human undead like the Bakekujira and the Nightshades (the cool ones, not the Nightwalker)
Well the great thing about templates is that they can be put on any creature. I recently had an idea for zombie vultures to harry the party after eating the corpses of rekilled zombies.
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Also, as far as undead go, I always liked the Undying Court from Eberron. I'd probably prefer that route.
From what I heard, James Jacobs wasn't too fond of the Undying Court.
I am not sure if that view applies to the other Paizo Staff.
A search says no one has mentioned the Great Race of Yith in this thread. Can they put those in a future Pathfinder book?Yithians are already in the Bestiary 3.
Ah. I missed that. My mistake. I notice that they also have a shoggoth listed there but no source is given. Anyone know the source?
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/oozes/shoggoth
Spellweavers are closed content. As are Chaturani. However, the idea of chess piece constructs isn't copyright, and they could certainly make them with a different fluff. It'd be like copyrighting dragons or dwarves.
They should make chess piece-like monsters based on the Lewis Chessmen. :)
Ah. I missed that. My mistake. I notice that they also have a shoggoth listed there but no source is given. Anyone know the source?
Bestiary 1.
I see. On a related note I take it the spellweaver from monster manual 2 is also verboten for Pathfinder?
Could they get away with refluffing the Chaturani? Call them something else but keep the chess idea? Chess is kinda generic enough.
Spellweavers are closed content. As are Chaturani. However, the idea of chess piece constructs isn't copyright, and they could certainly make them with a different fluff. It'd be like copyrighting dragons or dwarves.
A search says no one has mentioned the Great Race of Yith in this thread. Can they put those in a future Pathfinder book?Yithians are already in the Bestiary 3.
Well the great thing about templates is that they can be put on any creature. I recently had an idea for zombie vultures to harry the party after eating the corpses of rekilled zombies.I don't have a problem with all undead being evil, I kinda love that.
But I have a trouble with almost-all undead have to be humanoid. I like to see more non-human undead like the Bakekujira and the Nightshades (the cool ones, not the Nightwalker)
The bad thing about templates (for me) is that they not all have artwork to work with and are extremly chaotic and multi-fuctional, I generally don't like such stuff.
I like creating my own creatures, but I love pathfinder because they create and make the creatures for me.
More 0HD playable races.
-A fey touched race like Aassimar, Tiefling, Shifters, but for fey and one day alternate bloodlines like pixie, satyr, nymph, nixie, redcap, quickling, etc. The base race would be medium size, +2Dex +2Cha -2Str, some spell-like abilities, maybe the ability to become invisible(1 minute per level in 1 minute increments as the invisibility spell).
-A giant blooded race, medium size, giant subtype, defect arrows as a bonus feat, race has a racial trait depending on the type of giant it is related too. For example: fire giant- fire resistance 5, cloud giant- fog cloud(1/day), Jungle giant- +2 racial bonus vs disease/poison, etc.
-A dragon blooded race that looks human but has some draconic traits like some scale, maybe snake like eyes, etc. but otherwise looks human. It would have +2Str +2Cha -2Wis, darkvision, low-light vision, resistance to sleep/paralysis, and energy resistance based on dragon they are related.
-More plant based races would be nice. A tree based one, a cacti based one, a flower based one, etc. But vulnerable to mind-affecting effects.
-A monstrous humanoid race would be cool.
-A magical beast race would really be cool.
-A small size race with a +2 racial bonus to strength. Maybe it came from another planet with higher gravity.
-A humanoid turtle race, medium size, with a +2Con +2(Wis or Cha) -2Dex, +2 natural armor bonus, hold breath, swim speed 20, land speed 20 but like dwarfs are not hindered buy armor/heavy loads.
-More "planetouched" races such as law, chaos, positive energy, negative energy, time, dream, astral, ethereal, etc. For the positive energy race I would like for to have fast healing 1, +2Con +2Cha -2Str, resistance to negative energy and negative energy effects such as energy drain.
-Some more races from other planets.
-A non-evil undead race that looks mostly alive and intact. Maybe with a +2Str or Dex, +2Cha -2Con but vulnerable to mind-affecting effects.
-Also if you going to have another construct race make them vulnerable to mind-affecting effects.
-A Aberation based race would be cool, mostly humanoid in shape or maybe a shapeshifter that can take human form.
-I would like races that get one or two immunities such as a humanoid race immune to lycanthropy(and maybe there natural attacks count as silver), another immune to petrification, and one immune to confusion/insanity effects(maybe that aberration race), etc.
-A race of naga-like/lamia-like humanoids/monstrous humanoids that have the lower body of serpents, resistance/immunity to poison, and maybe a swim or climb speed.
-More races with special movement types like burrow, climb, swim, and flight.
-A playable race with non-standard number of eyes like one that is a Cyclopes, one with a third eye, and one with many eyes.
-A race that can teleport as supernatural ability but only within a very limited range(30ft, 5ft per level, etc.) and every 1d4 rounds.
-A race that has the ability to speak to any creature it has come into physical contact with, only one language at a time.
-A playable ooze race that can take humanoid form and other shapeshifting abilities.
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Speaking of races, I would like a half-ghoul and "Half-Skum/Deep One"
Ghouls are one of the most populous sapient undead and have similar origins to Vampires, and there are references to half ghouls in Mythos fiction. They seem like the obvious choice for another "undead properties" race.
The "Half-skum" (would need a better name) are also from the Mythos. I expect they would in flavor be somewhat similar to Changelings.
While we are on the topic of horror, I would like an undead Slasher, modeled after Jason, Michael Myers, etc.
Give it some good immunities and allow it to be hard to kill, but make it vulnerable to whatever originally killed it (like say, Jason being drowned).
Give it the ability to teleport,
sneak attack damage,
and some sort of special ability that lets it target people who sin preferentially (Because we know the "good girl" is always the last person standing).
Die Hard and the ability to improvise weapons is a must.
I'd like to see a "Half-Human" template that we can apply to some creatures to show the willingness of adventuring bards to sleep with any sentient creature with compatible equipment. Hey, dragons get a half-dragon template to show that they can mate with nearly anything, why not humans? :P
Ah. I missed that. My mistake. I notice that they also have a shoggoth listed there but no source is given. Anyone know the source?Bestiary 1.
Thanks. I really need to buy these Bestiary books.
While we are on the topic of horror, I would like an undead Slasher, modeled after Jason, Michael Myers, etc.
Give it some good immunities and allow it to be hard to kill, but make it vulnerable to whatever originally killed it (like say, Jason being drowned).
Give it the ability to teleport,
sneak attack damage,
and some sort of special ability that lets it target people who sin preferentially (Because we know the "good girl" is always the last person standing).
Die Hard and the ability to improvise weapons is a must.
Sounds like a basis for an upgraded or Mythic variant of the Revenant.
Revenants are somewhat similar, but tend to be focused on revenging there murder. Slashers are more generally kill happy.
Might work better as a template though
well for the planetouched lovers I made an eidolon planetouched for this
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Ok, I really don't wanna to annoy people with an idea that might make people hunt me down to beat me, but...
I'd like to see a 0-HD playable race of humanoid dragons.
HEAR ME OUT ON THIS ONE PLEASE!
Templates, in PF, have become somewhat unusable by PCs due to the removal of level adjustments. Furthermore, they also made templates non-accessible for balance issues. HOWEVER, some alternatives have been made to compensate the lack of templated characters.
You wanna play a half-celestial? Here's the aasimar (plus its variations)
You wanna play a half-fiend? Here's the tiefling (plus its variations)
You wanna play a half-elemental? Here are the Ifrit, Oread, Sylph and Undine
You wanna play a half-fey? Here's the gathlain
You wanna play a half-construct? Here's the wyrwood
Problem is:
You wanna play a half-dragon? Here's the wyvaran... which is actually a half-wyvern/half-kobold hybrid.
Yeah, that's not gonna please everyone who would like to play as a real bonafide half-dragon, like back in the 3e days.
So... how about a race of humanoid dragons?
- 2 pages of info, not just one
- Medium in size
- appareance being essentially a bipedal Medium dragon of human proportions
- Bonus to Strength and Charisma (Flexible)
- Racial feats similar to Angel Wings, Angelic Blood, Angelic Flesh and such, to allow flight and energy resistance according to the parent dragon
- Racial feats to allow claw attacks and bite attacks
- Racial feats to allow a breath weapon, as per the Draconic Bloodline's power, could also grant unlimited uses at very high levels
yes, you guys, the players, and the other guys, the creators, might be downright fed up with the half-dragon. However, I strongly believe that there is a very good way to make it balanced and satisfactory for all sides, and that way is to make a PC race.
While the Dragonborn has been done, call it by another name, be Dragonfolks, Dragonoids or Munthrekdarastrixes (that would be "Human Dragons" in the Draconic language, taken from WotC's Draconomicon).
Technically, there should the aasimar/tiefling equivalent for the half-dragon, with different ancestries, feats and abilities.
Isn't being half-dragon the whole point behind dragon disciple? And with the half-dragon template? If it's more about the appearance, kobolds have a ton of feats to get more dragon-like, and if you'd prefer something more strength-focused, there's nagaji. If you specifically want a human base, and don't want to be a caster, there's either a feat or monk archetype that gives a breath weapon if I recall.