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For those of you not aware, John, Mark and I will be discussing the following campaign changes on Wednesday's Know Direction Podcast. I believe it is set for 5 pm PST.
• Elimination of two factions from the campaign (when, which ones, how PCs will transfer from the retired factions to a new one)
• Change in how faction missions work in scenarios
• Change in wealth earned in scenarios
• Sanctioning of APs that are not currently sanctioned
• Revamped Pathfinder Tales Chronicle sheet format
John, Mark and I will be discussing the following campaign changes on Wednesday's Know Direction Podcast.
Will there be a transcript made available?
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Can you explain the reasoning behind why two factions are getting the boot? Not wanting spoilers but it just seems a pity to get rid of factions unless there's a good reason.
Hopefully we will hear why the two specific factions are being dropped as part of the podcast.
Why are any factions being dropped? I would hazard a guess that there's just too many right now. I would rather have a couple really tight factions with real present objectives than a loose conglomeration of side missions like right now.
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Can you explain the reasoning behind why two factions are getting the boot? Not wanting spoilers but it just seems a pity to get rid of factions unless there's a good reason.Too many faction missions for the authors. Its why many of the missions come across as random and interchangeable.
Fair enough. I can see why that would be an issue.
It's a bit of a shame for those who have tied their characters to certain factions closely, if Taldor is getting the boot for example I don't know what I will do with one of my characters. But really Mark, John and Mike have to do what's best for the campaign.
Not a criticism in any way, just curious.
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What's the URL? I don't follow any gaming podcasts and hadn't heard of "Know Direction" before now, is it this?John, Mark and I will be discussing the following campaign changes on Wednesday's Know Direction Podcast.Will there be a transcript made available?
Yes, that's the correct podcast.
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I was just going to post about trying to grab a faction trait before it gets removed. I doubt it would e as simple as that but now we will see.
I wonder in Know Direction will have problems with too many people trying to download at the same time due to this form of info release.
Off to make that Lantern Lodge post, I hink they are on the chopping block. Anyone else wan to guess ans predict who goes ? I will be soarly saddened if I no longer get to continue to work for the Paracountess!
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• Change in wealth earned in scenarios!
Up? Down? Same but just handled differently?
And are you trying to give me gray hairs by dropping bombs like that without giving the details yet? ;)
I am guessing (but really really hoping I'm wrong) that it's going to be that level 1-2 characters playing in 4-5 are going to get the level 1-2 wealth (and so on for all tiers).
*Crosses fingers that I'm wrong.*
RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8
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• Change in wealth earned in scenarios!
Up? Down? Same but just handled differently?
And are you trying to give me gray hairs by dropping bombs like that without giving the details yet? ;)
I am guessing (but really really hoping I'm wrong) that it's going to be that level 1-2 characters playing in 4-5 are going to get the level 1-2 wealth (and so on for all tiers).
*Crosses fingers that I'm wrong.*
I hope you're wrong too. I was planning to constantly play Ksenia 'up' when I can, just to see how long she'd last.
Though I can see the other way being abused (if you get tier level treasure based on your level instead of what tier you play at.)
"Hey new first level party! I'll bring my 5th level character, and make it a cake walk for you, everyone wins!"
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Random semi coherent opium induced rambling while praying for hillbilly sharpshooting.
-Merging Andoran and silver crusade factions. They're both "Good guy" factions and overlap a bit.
-Merge Osirion and Qu'diran factions. They're both middle eastern merchant consortiums. The merchant prince could marry someone for a cure.
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RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8
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heh how about this.
Merging Cheliax and Andoran. They're both former Taldor colonies.
Merge Grand and Shadow Lodge. Torch has become The Man. ;-)
All tongue in cheek, but I don't want to see the Bravo Foxtrots absorb the Crusade.
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My money's on Cheliax getting the ax. Especially considering the events of Season 4. I think they also put a strain on the "non-evil" requirement, and the Paracountess singlehandedly takes the kid-friendliness of PFS down about 3 notches. For the second faction, I could see Andoran getting eliminated to keep balance.
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• Change in wealth earned in scenarios!
Up? Down? Same but just handled differently?
And are you trying to give me gray hairs by dropping bombs like that without giving the details yet? ;)
I am guessing (but really really hoping I'm wrong) that it's going to be that level 1-2 characters playing in 4-5 are going to get the level 1-2 wealth (and so on for all tiers).
*Crosses fingers that I'm wrong.*
I hope you're wrong too. I was planning to constantly play Ksenia 'up' when I can, just to see how long she'd last.
Though I can see the other way being abused (if you get tier level treasure based on your level instead of what tier you play at.)
"Hey new first level party! I'll bring my 5th level character, and make it a cake walk for you, everyone wins!"
Agreed, though I imagine it would just go the other direction. The main problem I see is that it will make singleton low level characters very very uncomfortable with playing up (when the table has to play the high tier, no choice) because they have all the increased likelihood of death but no extra cash to pay for the raise or for more expendables. So in many cases, I imagine that they will walk away from the table and not play until they can find a 1-2, particularly if the character is very dear to them. It's essentially similar to the problem with slow progression. I know a lot of people who have considered slow progression but can't deal with the fact that in slow progression, consumables and raises cost twice as much as in normal.
But no need to analyze it when it isn't even a guarantee. It's just I've been particularly worrying about this possibility since even before I saw Mike's post, so now I can't think of anything else in the "wealth earned in scenarios" category of changes.
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I will download as soon as I get off work (10pm PDT...) and listen tonight before bedtime.Sior, Know Direction is streamed/recorded live. The podcast will be recorded tomorrow evening. Mike was just giving us all a head's up.
Oh, right, it's Tuesday, not Wednesday. My days are all sorts of messed up this week. Thanks.
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• Elimination of two factions from the campaign (when, which ones, how PCs will transfer from the retired factions to a new one)
As a PbPer, I trust there will be a reasonably generous transition period in eliminating factions. Online games take as much as several months to complete so if it's a sudden change, there will be troubles for us.
RPG Superstar Season 9 Top 8
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For those of you not aware, John, Mark and I will be discussing the following campaign changes on Wednesday's Know Direction Podcast. I believe it is set for 5 pm PST.
• Elimination of two factions from the campaign (when, which ones, how PCs will transfer from the retired factions to a new one)
• Change in how faction missions work in scenarios
• Change in wealth earned in scenarios
• Sanctioning of APs that are not currently sanctioned
• Revamped Pathfinder Tales Chronicle sheet format
Mike, what are the chances of getting these bullet points answered in some text form after the podcast? Either as a blog or post? For those that aren't connected into the podcasting world.
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RPG Superstar Season 9 Top 8
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As a PbPer, I trust there will be a reasonably generous transition period in eliminating factions. Online games take as much as several months to complete so if it's a sudden change, there will be troubles for us.• Elimination of two factions from the campaign (when, which ones, how PCs will transfer from the retired factions to a new one)
With previous changes to factions there has been a good amount of leeway. Also, I think these changes are planned for Season 5. So not until after GenCon in August.
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My money's on Cheliax getting the ax. Especially considering the events of Season 4. I think they also put a strain on the "non-evil" requirement, and the Paracountess singlehandedly takes the kid-friendliness of PFS down about 3 notches. For the second faction, I could see Andoran getting eliminated to keep balance.
It seems from the mid-season descriptions that Osirion is done for sure and that the other faction is either going to be Cheliax or Taldor, probably Cheliax. All the other factions described mainly successes, whereas Osirion and Cheliax both seemed in serious trouble, with Taldor describing a tepid lack of success.
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It seems from the mid-season descriptions that Osirion is done for sure and that the other faction is either going to be Cheliax or Taldor, probably Cheliax. All the other factions described mainly successes, whereas Osirion and Cheliax both seemed in serious trouble, with Taldor describing a tepid lack of success.
What "mid-season descriptions" are you referring to? Was that in one of those faction update emails that I deleted without reading?
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It seems from the mid-season descriptions that Osirion is done for sure and that the other faction is either going to be Cheliax or Taldor, probably Cheliax. All the other factions described mainly successes, whereas Osirion and Cheliax both seemed in serious trouble, with Taldor describing a tepid lack of success.What "mid-season descriptions" are you referring to? Was that in one of those faction update emails that I deleted without reading?
Yes indeed, and they're also in the in-character forums too.
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As a PbPer, I trust there will be a reasonably generous transition period in eliminating factions. Online games take as much as several months to complete so if it's a sudden change, there will be troubles for us.• Elimination of two factions from the campaign (when, which ones, how PCs will transfer from the retired factions to a new one)
...are you who I think you are? (I am Prospero on M-W.)
I want to echo this. At the very least, we need some flexibility and clemency for making arrangements for people who are in the middle of games when the rules change, so that their characters don't get screwed out of PP.
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...are you who I think you are? (I am Prospero on M-W.)
The one and the same. :-)
Some Pretender had my preferred handle on here so I had to add a post-script to it.
I used to be more active on these boards but I still keep up a discussion of my RL game here:
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ld1i?GoBs-RunelordsKingmaker-mashup-campaign
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What "mid-season descriptions" are you referring to? Was that in one of those faction update emails that I deleted without reading?
Heh, that would explain why some where more detailed than others. :)
Faction 1: Hey a party!Faction 2: Here's what we did this year. But here's how stubborn they are. Here's who I met with. But I still have some tricks to play!
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Would it be possible to get a link to the simulcast when it begins?You can subscribe to it in Itunes, it's a downloadable audio file, not a live feed.
LazarX, you might not be aware, but Know Direction has started recording live on GoogleHangout, and streaming it live to their youtube channel
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Mike, what are the chances of getting these bullet points answered in some text form after the podcast? Either as a blog or post? For those that aren't connected into the podcasting world.
I am confident that the messageboards will be chock-full of people debating this stuff seconds after it's broadcast.
It seems from the mid-season descriptions that Osirion is done for sure and that the other faction is either going to be Cheliax or Taldor, probably Cheliax. All the other factions described mainly successes, whereas Osirion and Cheliax both seemed in serious trouble, with Taldor describing a tepid lack of success.
Keep in mind that a faction head can be replaced; it has happened before. That doesn't necessarily mean that the faction itself is going under.
Of course, it doesn't necessarily mean that it isn't.
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I am guessing (but really really hoping I'm wrong) that it's going to be that level 1-2 characters playing in 4-5 are going to get the level 1-2 wealth (and so on for all tiers).
*Crosses fingers that I'm wrong.*
I hope not. It's going to make it that much harder to balance tables--if a Level 5 can get his L5 gold for playing T1-2, there's no reason not to play down and get easy money. Similarly, if a L1 has to face the danger of a T4-5 but doesn't get the reward, there's basically no reason to be willing to play up.
(Note: I don't mean whole tables playing up/down, I mean one or two people playing out of tier because that's how the math works out when the table composition isn't negotiable.)
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Mike, what are the chances of getting these bullet points answered in some text form after the podcast? Either as a blog or post? For those that aren't connected into the podcasting world.I am confident that the messageboards will be chock-full of people debating this stuff seconds after it's broadcast.
It seems from the mid-season descriptions that Osirion is done for sure and that the other faction is either going to be Cheliax or Taldor, probably Cheliax. All the other factions described mainly successes, whereas Osirion and Cheliax both seemed in serious trouble, with Taldor describing a tepid lack of success.Keep in mind that a faction head can be replaced; it has happened before. That doesn't necessarily mean that the faction itself is going under.
Of course, it doesn't necessarily mean that it isn't.
Of course--the mid-season update alone didn't guarantee it, but combined with the announcement that two factions will be removed, it seems like it does to me.