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It seems necessary to point out that the BMI scale is only really precise when you are dealing with people of average human height. It breaks down pretty soon the farther you go from there. Already at 5'5", it's pretty useless. Same for taller than average people. A 4-foot-tall ratperson would be massively overweight at BMI 27.That's why pediatricians use the Ponderal Index, which divides by height a third time (kg/m^3 vs kg/m^2) to properly account for the square-cube law.
Avg. female ratfolk: 1.143m, 29.48kg, PI = 19.74
Avg. male ratfolk: 1.219m, 36.29kg, PI = 20.03Now, with a healthy human range of 10.3 to 13.9, one might think that these are somewhat high, but infants and toddlers have even higher PIs, and the reason is their comparatively short limbs. Note that ratfolk are almost always depicted as rather low-set, and that this also does not account for fur or tail.
Dwarves, on the other hand, have no excuse for their bulk, with a PI of anywhere from 36.7 to 43.7. Where does it all go !?
Beards. It goes into beards.
It's not just ratfolk. A human character of 5'4 weights 150 pounds.
That sounds pretty reasobable to me actually.
Or are they just strong muscle weighs three times more than fat ?
I demand someone do BMI calcs for each race and rank them in order of fatness.
Go.
The thing about rats is they can collapse their bones. So, I would think, that it's not bone density. The average wait for a girl who is 4 ft is 70-100 according to a terrible source, I am sure, but, I believe it. They get a -2 to strength, but no penalty to constitution. So, about the muscle mass of a 4 ft tall lady. I'd say they aren't too fat. Besides the difference between 3-1/2 ft and 4 ft is huge! Apparently like 20 lbs huge.
I have always considered my great, ground goblinbelly a source of admiration and beauty.
Don't be hatin', rats.
beej67, except that the BMI is just so wrong. It is not an accurate measurement of "fatness". Link
Also, while I don't know if it carries over to Ratfolk, there is a major difference in body-type between male and female rats. Males tend to be very bulky, while females are fairly lithe. I think the sizes listed are probably more meant for Males, if they are indeed large for their height.
And I agree that the addition of tail and fur is probably another big component.
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beej67, except that the BMI is just so wrong. It is not an accurate measurement of "fatness". Link
BMI is an accurate measure of fatness in my fantasy game world. So there.
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beej67, since the BMI is a fantasy using it in your fantasy world sounds about right. :)
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It's not just ratfolk. A human character of 5'4 weights 150 pounds.
Hey!
Being 5'3", 150 pounds and female, I'd say that that's a decent weight-height ratio for a human.
As for ratfolk, I'd say that we shouldn't worry that much - I'm sure that they as a race are very happy with the way that they look. XD
My image of them is stuck as Skritt. Fat don't enter into it.
Dude, they are so obviously based on the Skaven -- they should have just made them Medium sized and Chaotic Evil.
I mean, the Gulch Gunner? The alchemist variant with all the poison bombs (Poison Wind Globadier, anyone)?
Not that Skaven in Pathfinder wouldn't be totally awesome, mind you.
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My image of them is stuck as Skritt. Fat don't enter into it.Dude, they are so obviously based on the Skaven -- they should have just made them Medium sized and Chaotic Evil.
I mean, the Gulch Gunner? The alchemist variant with all the poison bombs (Poison Wind Globadier, anyone)?
Not that Skaven in Pathfinder wouldn't be totally awesome, mind you.
I like that ratfolk aren't chaotic evil.
It's all in the tail baby.
Obviously they're heavy with the weight of their racial avarice.
Not sure what that means for the tengu.
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Every time I've looked at the charts for height and weight I've always thought they produced overweight characters. The baseline for a male human is 4'10/120lbs which is a BMI of 25. First two randomly generated I get are 6'1/195lbs (again BMI of over 25) and 5'11/185lbs (25.8). So yeah, skewed into the "Slightly overweight" category.
of course, from most art depictions in sourcebooks I've seen since starting DnD, it's assumed your PCs will be Conan-the-Barbarian level buff before they even pick up their first greatsword. I mean, Ezren probably has a strength of like 6 but...look at those shoulders. Now take into account that unless you're a squishy spellcaster you have above average (10+ strength) or so.
To put it simply: you're supposed to be mad swol bro.