May want to check the homebrew forums. Im sure someone has tried.
I found the Inquisitor is a sort of Warlord. If you want the Warlordy things up on him then give him a few more teamwork feats that he can use without the partner having them.
The point of the Warlord isn't so much healing, but using your own actions to make your other party members better. Healing was a sideline effect.
I think the quote is Like "Other party members use weapons and spells to attack your enemies. You use your party members"
Letting other folks attack as your standard action is AWESOME! I played a warlord with a goliath Barbarian as a weapon and she was evil! The amount of damage she could put out with her turn plus mine was astronomical.
Bards fill this roll well. They aren't the best healers but can heal well enough. At high level they can heal quite with with the Song Healer Archetype which on swaps out the highest level performances otherwise the bard is much the same. They can buff really well too. If you want more combat oriented bards go with a Cavalier and the Battle Hearld. I'd only go this way if you had a secondary healer in the group like Paladin.
Here's something that's like them except no healing.
Use wands for healing if you hate being stuck with cleric so much. They work just as well and really force you to think before you act. AKA: they force you to use strategy.
None of those allow you to use your actions to allow other party members to attack :(
I put together a Pathfinder version of the warlord and marshal concept called the Commander.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2669279/Commander.pdf
None of those allow you to use your actions to allow other party members to attack :(Actually the Tactics Inquisition allows just that.
According to Tactics Inquisition:
Inquisitor’s Direction (Su): At the start of your turn, you can choose to enter a tranquil, reflective state and forgo all actions (standard, move, swift, immediate, and free actions, including attacks of opportunity) for that round; one ally of your choice within 30 feet gains the benefit of haste for 1 round. You can use this ability a number of times per day equal to your 3 + Wisdom bonus (minimum 1).Grant the Initiative (Ex): At 8th level, you and all allies within 30 feet may add your Wisdom bonus to your initiative checks.
So Kind of I guess. They get an extra attack IF they have a full attack capability...
unless you are thinking something else?
I forgot.
Bard has Haste.
It gives a similar effect, I guess. The flavor is very different.
It's a standard (and very nice) buff. It lasts and doesn't happen on your action, so it doesn't feel the same as "Barbarian! Strike him down!!
this...
using your friends AS YOUR ATTACK is just plain fun.I don't think my 4E Warlord used his own, in hand, weapons more than a handful of times over 16 levels...
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Inspire Action (Su): As a special use of bardic music, a 6th-level Pathfinder chronicler can exhort any one ally within hearing to a sudden surge of action, allowing her ally to immediately take an extra move action. This does not count against the ally's number of actions on his own turn.
At 9th level, she can enable an ally to immediately take a standard action instead.
So at character level 15 you can do it (level 5 to get access to prestige class)
That's a lot of build time til you get what is a 1st level power for an actual Warlord :(
So let's just say that there is really nothing that compares in Pathfinder.
That's because attacks are different in the two games.
It depends.
The systems are far too different to compare them on power level.
My advice is this:
If you want to play a class that is like the Warlord, but suited for Pathfinder, then there are way to accommodate. If you want to play a 4E Warlord, then play 4E.
Yes.. this thread was started to find out HOW to accommodate. So suggestions please.
Cavalier, Order of the Dragon, with a few levels in Cleric (if you are good or neutral aligned) for Channel Energy.
When I converted a warlord from 4th to Pathfinder, I also did the Battle Herald route. I think it fits the warlord pretty well thematically, though I don't know of any way to grant out-of-turn actions to your allies. Maybe do some sort of Greater Bull Rush build and just have enemies provoke AoO from your allies?
Another possibility to consider is a Bard with the Savage Skald and Songhealer archetypes. That combination gives you a lot of what a 4E warlord can do.
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I only played 4th ed for a single campaign that lasted all of 3 or 4 game sessions... but isn't the warlord similar to the Marshal from 3.5?
I only played 4th ed for a single campaign that lasted all of 3 or 4 game sessions... but isn't the warlord similar to the Marshal from 3.5?
Yep, same character concept. An inspiration-based character with martial skill and no magic.
I am actually working on a class called Battle Marshall... it is no where near done though...
EDIT: you might check out PathfinderDB.com some people were working on archetypes that would allow things like what the warlord can do.
So... Warmaster from SGG?
Ah, here we go. A link to it.
Thank you kind sir! I'll be getting this ASAP.
So... Warmaster from SGG?
I downloaded the PDF. Overall I think that this class feels a little underwhelming and focus to much the Leadership feat for my taste. Also, some abilities look really annoying to use, since they require you to make a skill check every round (a single skill check to activate the ability would have been enough IMHO). However, there's a lot of good ideas to be found in this document. For example, I really liked the ability that let you and your allies use the Aid Another action with a ranged weapon: sounds like a great way to include supressing fire into Pathfinder mechanics.
To the OP: There's also the Dragon Shaman. It's an aura-based class from the D&D 3.5 era. One of his aura gives fast healing to you and your allies, while most of them give you various combat-oriented bonus that stack with Inspire Courage and the like. If you don't mind the dragon-themed fluff of the class, I think it would be great for you. There's a lot of Pathfinder conversions to be found around the internets. The class had a 3/4 BAB progression, but I would give it a 1/1 BAB progression to make it more on par with official Pathfinder classes.
I forgot.
Bard has Haste.
It gives a similar effect, I guess. The flavor is very different.
It's a standard (and very nice) buff. It lasts and doesn't happen on your action, so it doesn't feel the same as "Barbarian! Strike him down!"
My fighter tactician uses trip maneuvers to give out AOO, as a Dwarf he has sliding axe throw to do that at a distance, but a bola would work. Other maneuvers grant aoo's that give that controller feel too
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Well, it's the War Master, not the Small Scale Squad Master :)
I wrote this for a smaller scale squad leader type. It's from this book, if anyone wants to give me money :p
Adamant Entertainment has their Warlord, from their somewhat maligned Tome of Secrets. You can find it here (and there's a link to buy it if you love it).
Of course, these don't have healing. Well, the inspiring commander has temporary hitpoints. That's kind of like healing, but honestly makes more sense than actual healing, especially for a non-magical type.
Well, it's the War Master, not the Small Scale Squad Master :)
Point taken. ;)