Not mad, really - just head-shaking at the sheer amount of time waste (intentionally) by someone for a hoax plus the time waste (unintentionally) for fans who worked on deciphering all these messages and clues.
I'm also wondering did the hoaxer finally out himself because he ran out of material or did he feel guilty for all the attention? He still had like 4 days to go on the countdown; could have really ended it on an even bigger scale I think to have waited.
It's a little off-putting that Bethesda waited about three weeks to officially deny it wasn't real either. Their excuse being "we didn't want to do anything until people started taking it seriously" could have been better done.
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Well, that was disappointing.
The irony now would be if Bethesda did announce FALLOUT 4 and it turned out to be rather less interesting than the ideas thesurvivor2299 had.
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It's a little off-putting that Bethesda waited about three weeks to officially deny it wasn't real either. Their excuse being "we didn't want to do anything until people started taking it seriously" could have been better done.
That's the part that really puzzles me. How hard is it to say, "No, that isn't us?" And leave it at that?
we avoid responding to rumors and speculation, but did wanted to respond once people took it more seriously.
This wasn't "rumors and speculation." This was SOMEONE PRETENDING TO BE BETHESDA/ZENIMAX -- down to faking their ownership of the website, let alone using their IP. That is potentially a legal issue. The "people" who should have been taking it seriously before anyone else was them. I am not angry about the hoax, but I find I am rather irked at Bethesda being so stupid, especially when they're so lawsuit happy about other things, including far more innocent fan works.
In other news, part of me wants to know if the Tunnel Snakes are still going to announce something on December 11. ;)
...if Bethesda did announce FALLOUT 4 and it turned out to be rather less interesting than the ideas thesurvivor2299 had.
That what I was thinking as well.
One other thing to note here guys and gals is if you don't have an anti-malware suite running or just don't necessarily trust passive scanning you may want to run some scans on your systems. Apparently there are some reports out now that after the last couple changes there have been hits on that site for being a source for some malware intrusions.
Maybe nothing but better safe than sorry when it comes to personal data.
The hoaxer explains why he did it and how he stopped after a 'chat' with Bethesda. It also cost him almost $1,000, which seems a little extreme.
The comments for these articles crack me up sometimes.
TBH I don’t have any high hopes for Bethesda’s Fallout 4. They keep on pushing Fallout franchise down – the only recent Fallout I liked – New Vegas – was made by Obsidian…
Was there another recent Fallout I'm unaware of? Last I checked FO3 was the only one made by Bethesda.
Is there a game I should have played?
At a stretch you could count the five DLCs released for FO3 as well, I suppose.
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The hoaxer explains why he did it and how he stopped after a 'chat' with Bethesda. It also cost him almost $1,000, which seems a little extreme.
So he spent nearly $1,000 in hopes it would "force" Bethesda to leak a tidbit about a $50 game.
He seems like simultaneously a genius and an utter idiot. He's also lucky Bethesda didn't sue, or he'd be out considerably more than $990.
I've also seen people responding to Bethesda's Twitter saying tripe along the lines of "you owe us F4 information now" because of all this.
This is ridiculous. Bethesda "owes" no one anything due to the actions of a manipulative lunatic unassociated with them.
There is this ridiculous sentiment of self-entitlement amongst gamers in particular that really drives me bonkers and actually makes me feel ashamed to be a gamer (as much as I love my hobby itself). I expect to get what I pay for when I buy a game. Nothing more. I do not expect software developers to bow to my every whim just because I happened to grace them with the glorious presence of my fandom.
Would I like to hear news about Fallout 4? Sure. Do I really care that much? No. In fact, I tend to feel frustrated about some in advance information because then all it does is make me think about a game I can't play yet. I am also a firm believer in game companies not announcing anything until they're damn well ready and beyond, because nothing is worse than promising something and then not being able to deliver (software development in particular can be a rather rocky path, so you don't want to announce it until you're sure it's going to come out). Premature announcements tend to lead only to disappointments, and then, especially because of so many gamers on the Internet being self-entitled douchebags with nothing to do apparently other than whine on the Internet, leads to extra buckets of unnecessary nerdrage raining down upon the fandom.
And with that, my own nerdrage induced rant is finished.
I remember the situation with FO3. Bethesda announced they were making it and there was a year or two of nothing more than "OBLIVION with guns!" Then we finally got a series of trailers and sneak peeks about two years out and more speculation before the thing finally came out. It was pretty frustrating (and I wasn't even hugely interested in the franchise at the time).
I think the 'announce it a year before release' strategy Bethesda hit on with SKYRIM was the right way to go.
Based on what i've seen on Skyrim and Fallout their public relations staff could use some help or maybe at least an improved strategy. You can say they owe us nothing and we are just fools but i have been more impressed lately with their competition (Bioware).
Bioware twitter updates and fan interviews dont give you much but there appears to be a real fan appeciation.
Same goes with pathfinder. I see Eric posting on another site and we get information on upcoming products and feedback.
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If there is one company Bethesda DON'T want to look for inspiration from for PR, it's BioWare. The sheer number of PR disasters they've had in the last few years has been quite remarkable.
CD Projekt Red, inXile or Obsidian would be much better examples, I think. Especially CDPR. The way they've just done enough to excite people for CYBERPUNK 2077 even though it's still two years from release without getting frustrating has been impressive.
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Based on what i've seen on Skyrim and Fallout their public relations staff could use some help or maybe at least an improved strategy. You can say they owe us nothing and we are just fools but i have been more impressed lately with their competition (Bioware).
Bioware twitter updates and fan interviews dont give you much but there appears to be a real fan appeciation.
Same goes with pathfinder. I see Eric posting on another site and we get information on upcoming products and feedback.
The thing is -- first, they've been focusing on Elder Scrolls Online, and doing a good job with its marketing. It's not a game I am personally interested in, but they are doing a good job with sharing information about it. For example, their blog has an update on ESO today.
Bethesda communicates with fans. They communicate with fans frequently. Because they are not communicating about a game they may or may not be making or at least not focusing on heavily at the moment doesn't mean they are not communicating with fans, it just means they are communicating with them about stuff which they actually have something to share about. They are just communicating the material they feel is worth sharing.
Secondly: THEY MAY HAVE NOTHING TO ANNOUNCE. The presumption that they have all this amazing information to share and are just holding back on it for the sake of their being either idiots or mean meanieheads, I'm sorry, is just ridiculous. The only thing I've heard about F4 is that if it's in development at all, it's EARLY in development, and an early development video game may look dramatically different from the final product. They'd be idiots to share anything about it at this time because anything they'd suggest, however small, would be taken as "promises" by the self-entitled douchebag portion of the fandom and then if they changed whatever it is they announced, no matter how good a reason. Or alternately, something like graphics may be in an early design form, but that will not stop people from complaining, "the graphics are terrible" or some such and denounce the game before they ever see what it's really going to be like. Announcing anything would put them in a no-win situation at the moment, and they're smart to keep their mouths shut.
The ONLY thing they shouldn't have kept their mouths shut on was making it absolutely clear that someone fraudulently pretending to be them was not actually them.
ESO is not made directly by Bethesda.
How they handled the last patch for Skyrim and then "ok its finished" in my opinion was done poorly. The game is buggy and tempermental to say the least. PC users got the ability to patch the game with the "unofficial patches" and consoles should have gotten a better fix and not be left with additional bugs such as the "lip synch" bug after the final patch was careless. PS3 was a nightmare and they were treated like the ugly stepchild thoughout the process.Heard the same thing about New Vegas for PS3. Shameful
The owe us nothing for fallout 4 but Laidlaw quickly informed fans when there was a scam for DAI beta testing. Bethesda could have quickly commented on the extensive hoax with a simple blog post but they didnt give a BLEEP. Laidlaw may come off as arrogant but Howard is his equal.
Laidlaw had to eat his humble pie with the outrage at DA2 (well deserved) but Bethesda doesnt due to $$$$ generated from their games. I bet Howard would have had 2 if PS3 DLC was released first and didnt work
That's an angle I hadn't considered before: Bethesda may be long finished with SKYRIM, but their sister-company is only five months away from releasing THE ELDER SCROLLS ONLINE, and Zenimax may want all attention focused on that before making any official announcements about FALLOUT 4. That may put the likelihood of an announcement back to the summer.
I think you're right Werthead. It may be very well an issue of making sure they aren't splitting their marketing.
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ESO is not made directly by Bethesda.
Let's pause a moment to make a clarification.
There is ZeniMax Media. It owns all of the things, and is run by Wonder Woman's husband.
Amongst many of the things ZeniMax Media owns, is Bethesda Softworks, a game PUBLISHER.
Bethesda Softworks in turn owns Bethesda Game Studios, a game DEVELOPER.
ZeniMax Media also owns ZeniMax Online Studios, another game DEVELOPER.
PUBLISHERS bankroll, advertise, and run QA for video games. PUBLISHERS hire DEVELOPERS to do the actual work on the software for video games. Bethesda Softworks, a PUBLISHER, often hires its own in house Bethesda Game Studios to do game development, but it also hires other developers for other projects; for example, it hired Obsidian to develop Fallout: New Vegas. However, Bethesda Softworks, being the PUBLISHER, was still in charge of things like time table, QA, and marketing.
Bethesda Softworks, a PUBLISHER, is publishing the Elder Scrolls Online. They have hired ZeniMax Online Studios, one of their parent company's many software studios, to do the development. But because Bethesda Softworks is the PUBLISHER, they are in charge of marketing the Elder Scrolls Online. That is the big thing they are focusing on right now.
Bethesda Softworks, a PUBLISHER, owns the rights to the Fallout IP. Anything advertised, marketed, etc. related to Fallout, must be marketed by Bethesda Softworks.
Hence, Bethesda, by which I mean Bethesda Softworks the software PUBLISHER, is clearly focusing on the ESO marketing rather than Fallout right now, which is its job as PUBLISHER. Even if ZeniMax Online makes announcements about ESO directly, they have to be sure their PUBLISHER, Bethesda, is okay with it first. Likewise, whoever is developing Fallout 4, if anyone is developing it at all, would have to clear it with the PUBLISHER, Bethesda Softworks.
How they handled the last patch for Skyrim and then "ok its finished" in my opinion was done poorly. The game is buggy and tempermental to say the least. PC users got the ability to patch the game with the "unofficial patches" and consoles should have gotten a better fix and not be left with additional bugs such as the "lip synch" bug after the final patch was careless. PS3 was a nightmare and they were treated like the ugly stepchild thoughout the process.Heard the same thing about New Vegas for PS3. ShamefulThe owe us nothing for fallout 4 but Laidlaw quickly informed fans when there was a scam for DAI beta testing. Bethesda could have quickly commented on the extensive hoax with a simple blog post but they didnt give a BLEEP. Laidlaw may come off as arrogant but Howard is his equal.
Laidlaw had to eat his humble pie with the outrage at DA2 (well deserved) but Bethesda doesnt due to $$$$ generated from their games. I bet Howard would have had 2 if PS3 DLC was released first and didnt work
But you want them to announce something about Fallout 4, when it is very likely premature, when you believe them to already be unreliable? Curious.
Kotaku has secured casting information for Bethesda's next game...which is a FALLOUT game set in Boston, code-named 'Institute'.
Unlike the survivor2999 thing, Kotaku at least is 100% convinced this is genuine, though they note that casting sides and audition pieces rarely make it to the final game unchanged. So aside from confirming "It's happening," they may not be of much use.
But they certainly rekindle hope after the hoax.
No i dont want them to announce. I just wanted them to squash the website sooner.
Multiple threads on their own site (how many on others including this 1) were created with people building up their hopes. A twitter or comment could have said "that is not us". We are focusing on ESO or Enemy Within etc. Please check out our official wesite blah blah for any future announcements.
Kotaku has secured casting information for Bethesda's next game...which is a FALLOUT game set in Boston, code-named 'Institute'.
Unlike the survivor2999 thing, Kotaku at least is 100% convinced this is genuine, though they note that casting sides and audition pieces rarely make it to the final game unchanged. So aside from confirming "It's happening," they may not be of much use.
But they certainly rekindle hope after the hoax.
If that article is true...SPOILERS READ AT OWN PERIL.
It says that the player's Great Great Grandfather was in WW2 in 1945.
Curious how that'll fit in time wise.
I think the fact that the
ETA: Looking at the script and the article, the PC has both male and female voice actor parts. And
I think it's very, very likely that we'll have official confirmation next month that a new Fallout game set in or around Boston is being developed.
Not official confirmation, but pretty close! Does being inadvertently correct count?
While any news of Fallout 4's confirmation is nice. I really wish it didn't come from a document leak.
Anytime a leak like this happens the company tends to batten down the hatches and seal up their lips even tighter. And I can't say I blame them for it.
But really the one thing I took away that makes me a little sad is
While any news of Fallout 4's confirmation is nice. I really wish it didn't come from a document leak.Anytime a leak like this happens the company tends to batten down the hatches and seal up their lips even tighter. And I can't say I blame them for it.
But really the one thing I took away that makes me a little sad is
** spoiler omitted ** I know it's a little thing and isn't even really important but still its a break from tradition and I'm sad to see it go.
Unless, of course, he voices the player. Then you can have your cake and eat it too :)
Unless, of course, he voices the player. Then you can have your cake and eat it too :)
While any news of Fallout 4's confirmation is nice. I really wish it didn't come from a document leak.Anytime a leak like this happens the company tends to batten down the hatches and seal up their lips even tighter. And I can't say I blame them for it.
But really the one thing I took away that makes me a little sad is
** spoiler omitted ** I know it's a little thing and isn't even really important but still its a break from tradition and I'm sad to see it go.
That would be amazing. Highly unlikely, but amazing none the less.
If that happened, then the female character voice HAS to be Linda Hamilton...
You could have Ron Perlman narrating, then this kicks in though it might be a bit redundant. Or Perlman just narrates the closing narration this time around.
If that happened, then the female character voice HAS to be Linda Hamilton...
Awesome :)
Since they're a soldier, the military unit they're from should also be called the 44th and Done.
I was under the impression that Fallouts 1&2 were already free?
GoG has a sale and you can get FALLOUT 1, 2 and TACTICS for absolutely free for the next two days.
Haha! Nice, thank you for posting that!
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Well it's been over a year and a half since the survivor2999 hoax, but with E3 and Bethesda's very first solo presentation coming up in just over a month the rumors are flying.
For the first time in two years looks like we have some positive info. Glad I just built that new PC.
That would be awesome but I do not plan on holding my breath. Thanks for the update atheral.
Well something is happening today.
Well, tomorrow. Still 16 hours on that counter.
Apparently someone asked Ron Perlman at Phoenix Comiccon about it and his quote was "I wish I could tell you something about it, but I can't and I won't" with a devious smirk on his face.
So it would seem like Mr. Perlman is back for another round of "War never changes".
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Well something is happening today.Well, tomorrow. Still 16 hours on that counter.
It depends what day cycle you keep dear Rynjin.
Not really. A day is a day regardless. Doesn't matter if you're diurnal, nocturnal, or just have a straight up wonky sleep schedule, Tuesday and Wednesday are still different days.
I think it is time to replay Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas in anticipation of this.
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Not really. A day is a day regardless. Doesn't matter if you're diurnal, nocturnal, or just have a straight up wonky sleep schedule, Tuesday and Wednesday are still different days.
And a day is still 24 hours long, so if our dear baron is located somewehere east of germany but west of the US, he was posting 'on the same day' ;-)
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG
IT'S HAPPENINGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Less than 35 minutes before the big announcement. Whatever that will be.
My money is on an announcement of an announcement.
I'm expecting "We're making Fallout 4, we'll tell you more at E3" or something similar.
~SCREAMS~ THAT WAS AWESOME!!!
The trailer has much more of a Fallout 3 vibe than a Fallout New Vegas vibe.
HOLY..$#!* That looks absolutely gorgeous. Very Fallout 3, though it had some interesting nuances to it. Forgive the following incoherent gibberish/stream of consciousness thoughts.
I think I need to watch that trailer a few more times to really get a solid grip on everything that's going on.
Environments look nice. The character models and animations are still very last gen. It's Fallout, so whatever, but at this point Bethesda has got to realize they're lagging behind on that tech.