It's because they're still using the Creation Engine (or I imagine so). They insist on using their own cobbled together game engine instead of one that frankly doesn't suck.
It'll still probably be good though.
Well, I'm excited. Love the world design. Like that it appears to be in Boston--looking forward to seeing a new location in that world. Wonder when it takes place comparative to the other Fallouts? Usually one takes place decades after another but since it's in a new location could be simultaneous or even before the events of another.
I am curious about what seems to be strong presence of BOS, from the power armor suits, as they're really not supposed to be strongly out in the east (the chapter in the Capital Wasteland was a new arrival and a splinter faction at that). Unless it's another group in power armor?
I hope we get a companion voiced by John Ratzenberger.
Well, I'm excited. Love the world design. Like that it appears to be in Boston--looking forward to seeing a new location in that world. Wonder when it takes place comparative to the other Fallouts? Usually one takes place decades after another but since it's in a new location could be simultaneous or even before the events of another.
I am curious about what seems to be strong presence of BOS, from the power armor suits, as they're really not supposed to be strongly out in the east (the chapter in the Capital Wasteland was a new arrival and a splinter faction at that). Unless it's another group in power armor?
I've seen two schools of thought on the BOS being present , one is that this is several years after Fallout 3 and Lyons' group has gained a following and spread up the coast from DC after the events of Broken Steel.
The other holds that if you notice in the prewar images there are folks wearing that model power armor (probably US military) so it could be a non-enclave remnant of the old US military.
Looks like it's finally time for me to decide between new console or new PC.
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XCOM 2 is what has encouraged me to get a new PC come tax time. Besides, I need a new one anyway.
Honestly, not impressed at all. Looks like Fallout 3 with some texture mods.
Fallout 3 with some texture mods and extra bells and whistles would suit me down to the ground. I liked that one better, thinking about it
Bethsda should get with the times. They have an awesome engine they made Wolfenstein with. They should roll with that.
No, they don't. Id has an awesome engine they made Wolfenstein with.
Bethseda Studios (NOT Bethesda Softworks) PUBLISHED Wolfenstein.
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Well, I'm excited. Love the world design. Like that it appears to be in Boston--looking forward to seeing a new location in that world. Wonder when it takes place comparative to the other Fallouts? Usually one takes place decades after another but since it's in a new location could be simultaneous or even before the events of another.
I am curious about what seems to be strong presence of BOS, from the power armor suits, as they're really not supposed to be strongly out in the east (the chapter in the Capital Wasteland was a new arrival and a splinter faction at that). Unless it's another group in power armor?
I think a more important small thing is that the armor is being..."crafted" because it's currently being worked on. They may open up that very popular feature (I loved the detail in FO:NV) to armor, other gear and maybe even robots than previous versions of the game.
Just a guess - the fact that the wanderer carries what looks to be a PA designed weapon sort of reinforces it - who knows (besides the devs).
As the kinda rabid fanboy who devoured the Van Buren documents, I'm intruiged but a little wary. Fallout 3 lacked the humour of the series, for the most part, and it's story was a bit too linear and bland. New Vegas fixed that...although it was an even more buggy mess. Ah well, here's hoping.
Still, we're in a part of the world that managed to build working androids, so the idea of modifying the T-45d suits certainly isn't impossible. So far the only active one's we've seen are pre-fall, so it is quite possible the Brotherhood won't be around for this game.
New PC. Trust me. You can always borrow a console.
The console has advantages. I don't have to worry if it will be able to run games that come out in two years, and my TV is bigger than my monitor.
Also I much prefer using a controller to mouse/keyboard.
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As the kinda rabid fanboy who devoured the Van Buren documents, I'm intruiged but a little wary. Fallout 3 lacked the humour of the series, for the most part, and it's story was a bit too linear and bland. New Vegas fixed that...although it was an even more buggy mess. Ah well, here's hoping.
I thought Fallout 3 was very darkly humorous, myself. But the plot definitely needed work.
New PC. Trust me. You can always borrow a console.The console has advantages. I don't have to worry if it will be able to run games that come out in two years,
Granted, though generally if you buy a PC good enough to run today's games perfectly, it can run the games of 2/3/4/5 years from now on average.
and my TV is bigger than my monitor.
25 feet of cable for under $6.
If you find a good deal, it can be even better. I got 30 feet of cable for 80 cents about 5 years back. Sadly, it's beginning to work less well (starts displaying static if I move my laptop, and then I have to adjust it).
Also I much prefer using a controller to mouse/keyboard.
Your computer has USB ports, and modern controller connections are USB shaped.
This is not a coincidence.
As the kinda rabid fanboy who devoured the Van Buren documents, I'm intruiged but a little wary. Fallout 3 lacked the humour of the series, for the most part, and it's story was a bit too linear and bland. New Vegas fixed that...although it was an even more buggy mess. Ah well, here's hoping.I thought Fallout 3 was very darkly humorous, myself. But the plot definitely needed work.
New PC. Trust me. You can always borrow a console.The console has advantages. I don't have to worry if it will be able to run games that come out in two years,Granted, though generally if you buy a PC good enough to run today's games perfectly, it can run the games of 2/3/4/5 years from now on average.
and my TV is bigger than my monitor.25 feet of cable for under $6.
If you find a good deal, it can be even better. I got 30 feet of cable for 80 cents about 5 years back. Sadly, it's beginning to work less well (starts displaying static if I move my laptop, and then I have to adjust it).
Also I much prefer using a controller to mouse/keyboard.Your computer has USB ports, and modern controller connections are USB shaped.
This is not a coincidence.
Modern controllers are wireless. :P
Not if you purchase them not to be.
And you can purchase a receiver to use for Wireless ones too.
I almost exclusively use an Xbox 360 controller (wired) to game on my PC.
New PC. Trust me. You can always borrow a console.
The console has advantages. I don't have to worry if it will be able to run games that come out in two years, and my TV is bigger than my monitor.
Also I much prefer using a controller to mouse/keyboard.
It's a Bethesda game. Think mods. For the PC. The engine isn't the shiniest (in all likelihood so the mod community can keep up) so you don't need a monster gaming rig. The engine they used for the Elderscrolls games like Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim (and Fallout 3 / NV) allowed for a thriving mod community. As I recall it's the same engine being used in Fallout 4. So mods... :)
I wish Bethesda would stop making Fallout games :P Their poor writing is espicially horrible when context is in series that used to have good writing... At least Elder Scroll games never had espicially good writing in first place xD
They've only made one so far, and 3's writing wasn't much worse than New Vegas'...which was made by the same people who made the first two, so if the writing is bad for the "games" Bethesda has made (which is debatable) it's not only a problem with Bethesda.
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Yes, but they did make ES games(Ah the waste of Skyrim's civil war story... You just fight couple of fights and then its over and nobody really cares either way) :P Also, I need you to do an essay on how 3 doesn't have "much worse writing than New Vegas" since I'm not really convinced of that xD
Like, all you need to do is to mention ending to 3(with or without dlc) <_<
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I liked 3 better than New Vegas, for everything except mechanics.
I know that's an unpopular opinion.
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Yes, but they did make ES games(Ah the waste of Skyrim's civil war story... You just fight couple of fights and then its over and nobody really cares either way) :P
Actually Civil War was originally a vast and thriving quest line with recruitment of allies for your faction and dynamic battles in each hold. According to Apollo Down (who has spent literally thousands of hours trying to rebuild it) the original system was going to combine diplomacy and combat - along with 12 or more battles per hold - to win the war. There is a ton of dialogue, scripts, and scenes that were included but never activated.
It was going to be by far the largest questline in Skyrim.
Unfortunately, for whatever reason (likely lack of time before release) they took a little off the top with a chainsaw and lobotomized the entire quest line.
If you want a better idea of what the Civil War was supposed to look like, I suggest downloading the Civil War Overhaul mod (on a new save). Completely different experience.
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Yes, but they did make ES games(Ah the waste of Skyrim's civil war story... You just fight couple of fights and then its over and nobody really cares either way) :PActually Civil War was originally a vast and thriving quest line with recruitment of allies for your faction and dynamic battles in each hold. According to Apollo Down (who has spent literally thousands of hours trying to rebuild it) the original system was going to combine diplomacy and combat - along with 12 or more battles per hold - to win the war. There is a ton of dialogue, scripts, and scenes that were included but never activated.
It was going to be by far the largest questline in Skyrim.
Unfortunately, for whatever reason (likely lack of time before release) they took a little off the top with a chainsaw and lobotomized the entire quest line.
If you want a better idea of what the Civil War was supposed to look like, I suggest downloading the Civil War Overhaul mod (on a new save). Completely different experience.
Huh, so its actually case of cutted content? Didn't know about that. Still, I suppose it doesn't excuse the fact they still included it in the game like that, the civil war is built up as being really important to the plot considering how bad the questline in unmodded game is.. Even if you have to cut down content, why the heck would you cut down something that is supposed to be really really important?
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New PC. Trust me. You can always borrow a console.The console has advantages. I don't have to worry if it will be able to run games that come out in two years, and my TV is bigger than my monitor.
Also I much prefer using a controller to mouse/keyboard.
None of those are advantages.
You can easily connect your PC to your TV via a HDMI/DVI cable. I do that in my room, I usually watch movies on the TV and game on the monitor.
Also, if you buy a PC that can run Witcher 3 on ultra today, you won't have to worry about any game for the foreseeable future.
I bought my computer 3 years ago and I can run witcher almost on ultra (some stuff I had to lower)
As for the controller, you can purchase a wireless controller which has a USB plug.
PC can do everything a console can. Only better.
I liked 3 better than New Vegas, for everything except mechanics.
I know that's an unpopular opinion.
DIE!!! j/k!!!
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Spook's desires for the upcoming game, some are outright irrational.
1.) No attempts to retcon the East Coast Brotherhood back into being jerks like the rest of the BoS.
2.) Maybe some conflict betwixt Capitol Brotherhood and the Commonwealth? Or Mainstream BoS and Capitol BoS?
3.) Since Ron's the voice on the television, maybe Ron Perlman will show up in game as a ZAX news-coalator who's been gathering up information across the post-war wasteland (hence why he does the narrations in game).
4.) No crappy Bethesda-choices where I have to choose between two terrible outcomes when I could very easily modify the situation to be better with my own resources/know-how.
5.) Continuations of East Coast plot elements over catering to West Coast ones.
6.) Puppet Man. O_O
I gotta admit, I'm really thinking the Brotherhood won't be a big factor in this game. We know the Institute that was once MIT is waaay more advanced than the Brotherhood and there more 'keep old tech alive' policy allows for.
I mean, the protagonist appears to be re-building a suit of T-45 armour in an old garage. The trailer also hints that the area has a much higher tech level than the majority of the wasteland. See - retrofitted and apparently flyable USS Constitution and an airship.
None of the suits have the Brotherhood logo on them, either.
However...the Institute is not, from what we know of it, an especially nice place. We only really know about it from the Replicated Man quest in Fallout 3, though. It is possible one (and hopefully not the only) possible main quest will be helping the Brotherhood or another faction take control of the Institute because the current people running it are a little too heavy into the 'enslave the populace' form of mad science, which is just bad hat on there part.
Although I really wish there was some way to bring in the gang from Big MT to have some fun too. True Mad Science!
Late to public interest, having been limited on internet this week, but very interested.
-Honestly, after so much lore from the West Coast of NCR, Caesar, Rangers, etc., I am definitely interested in a return to the East Coast and a chance to reveal more details of what happened there.
-Bunker Hill; Constitution, Wrigley Field, Paul Revere. Wonder how all this shapes up in the alternate history of the US. Putting rocket engines on the USS Constitution sounds like some of the crazy historical lore we've seen in other games.
-I am curious to see if the Institute plays the role of more like the Enclave with less restrictions. The dominant power that effects everything in the region and probably villainous as well. I suspect you'll be running into a lot of android enemies as well. I could see where the Institute might be acting in a similar manner to the BOS as well, but that the BOS itself won't be as involved. That could be why the suit in the garage is propped up - you have to fashion it yourself.
-Unless its just for graphics, looks like even the traditional baddies have been altered. The Super Mutants don't look much different; ghouls look less emaciated and more zombiesque; and the Deathclaw looks even more nasty than ever. So will that effect how you fight them?
-I tend to wonder if the "flashback" sequences will be part of the game or was it just window dressing to build up the excitement/nostalgia. Same thing for the power armor hanging in the garage - tend to think it's more to ramp that interest than telling us anything new.
-Graphically, I think there's an addition of more color to imply: less destruction in the region; maybe more growth of civilization? I'll admit that if it is being released for Xbox One, PS, and PC only, then it's definitely time for an upgrade on my systems - whether its console or PC.
-Speculation is that your character will be able to do voice over based on all that. It would be interesting; kind of got used to the idea after Bioshock Infinite - but not necessary if it doesn't happen.
Fenway Park
-Bunker Hill; Constitution, Wrigley Field..
Wonder what they are going to do to post apocalyptic Red Socks fans
Fenway Park
-Bunker Hill; Constitution, Wrigley Field..
Yea - I realized it about a half-hour later. Apologies to the Red Sox fans for making such a blasphemy.
I will say that internet rumor is that its called Diamond City to avoid legal issues with anything related to Fenway or the Red Sox. So again, suspect some alt history background in the mix.
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A friend of mine does have the theory that Vault 111 was using the same technology as Vault 112 was, only without the insane scientist taking over, so that it's possible the reason for the flashbacks are because you're one of the people in the intro (maybe the baby?)
The man in the flashback also looks a lot like the Vault 112 Dweller with the dog at the end. Mind, it may just because both look like "generic white dude with black hair," but still.
I read somewhere another possibility was that folks in Vault 112 were put in stasis and are from the Old World. I don't know where that comes from though.
Yeah, Vault 112's inhabitants were all pre-war. Dr Braun is the creator of the Garden of Eden Creation Kit, even. So it is possible, if 111 was using the same machinery but without the lunatic scientist, that your character could be pre-war.
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Speculation..... Speculation never changes. :-)
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New laptop or PC capable of running new things at cutting edge, like $2,000 (if lucky).
New Console capable of running games without game randomly crashing because of incompatible video card, or random software glitches, or any number of things where the game just doesn't want to run for like no reason. $400.
Consoles do a great job, without nearly the amount of fiddling you have to do with PCs, and they are hella cheaper.
I game on both, because I can afford to, some folks can't.
Be cool.
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New laptop or PC capable of running new things at cutting edge, like $2,000 (if lucky).
This is so incredibly wrong.
I got my laptop for $700, and it runs most new games on Medium settings just fine.
As a note: Medium settings is what ALL consoles are locked to as well, so that's a moot point.
If I had gotten a desktop instead, it would have been about $100 cheaper, and much more moddable, meaning I could upgrade it over time.
Maybe $200 cheaper if I took the time to build it myself, and probably better (I would have gotten an Intel processor instead of an AMD, so it would have probably run better).
This myth that you have to drop thousands of dollars on a good PC to game gets really, really old after a while.
And while that might look like $200 more still, games are SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper a lot of the time on PC, so it pays for itself. Not to mention you likely need a PC for other things anyway, so you're getting a cheap $200 laptop or something plus the consoles...
New Console capable of running games without game randomly crashing because of incompatible video card, or random software glitches, or any number of things where the game just doesn't want to run for like no reason. $400.
If you're saying you've never experienced a glitch in a console game, you're a liar.
I game on both, because I can afford to, some folks can't.
Be cool.
Price was never even a part of the discussion, so I don't know what sparked this anyway.
The discussion was "I prefer console gaming because my TV is bigger than my monitor and I like controllers" with me informing Scythia that neither of those things is a factor.
I like consoles too for the ease of use and exclusives, but none of the factors yet mentioned are at all advantages.
I read somewhere another possibility was that folks in Vault 112 were put in stasis and are from the Old World. I don't know where that comes from though.
You can blame/credit Kotaku for this bit of speculation on the new game and Vault 111. Back when the Fallout 4 Hoax Site was revealed, they detailed they had gotten some pages from a legitimate source out of Bethesda Studio that discussed casting info for voice auditions and used scripted pages. Details here.
Among the details was the location confirmed in the new trailer: Boston. Also, that there would be a need for a male and female voices for the protagonist - something implied by the trailer. And also that the character would begin in a cryogenic chamber, which is why its sort of interesting to have the flashbacks; implying that the dwellers of Vault of 111 are actually from the old-world, not descendants of the occupants. Which I guess adds to the notion that the family man we see in the flashbacks may the same guy at the end of the trailer.
It's still all speculative, I know. And I wouldn't doubt if Bethesda changed things around since that article was released in December 2013. Unlike some of the hype that develops around big games like Fallout, I don't blame the studio for misleading us since this was a leaked source.
Buying a laptop for gaming is patently wrong as well.
A desktop is a much better option, but I need a laptop for school and whatnot, so as long as it works IDGAF.
I'm considering building a PC specifically for gaming when I have a bit of money though.
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Guys, can we stop the "my preferred platform for gaming is the best and everyone else's is wrongbadfun?" It gets really freaking old. It always seems like what's really going on is people are insecure about whatever investment they've made in whatever system they've got, and thus take discussions of any other platform like a personal attack. (And on the note of taking non-personal things personally, I am NOT targeting any one given person on this thread. Just sick of the general platform wars, here and elsewhere.) It's so stupid. Different people decide to spend their money in different ways for different reasons. Get over it. If it is a thing where people want to raise the dead horse as a zombie and beat it down again, can it be please done in another thread?
The only thing relevant to Fallout is what will be available for a given platform. Like, there will probably be a GECK and mods for the PC version, so if that's your thing then PC would be the way to go if possible. OTOH, sometimes Bethesda has a habit of releasing for XBox before PC and definitely before Playstation (and indeed I wonder if they will delay Playstation releases again or if that kind of stuff' stopped). I wonder if PC version will be released with Steamworks again (i.e., you need Steam to play). Probably.
Among the details was the location confirmed in the new trailer: Boston.
Bethesda keeps picking cities that should technically be half-flooded post apocalypse. ;)
Also, that there would be a need for a male and female voices for the protagonist
IIRC there were casting calls/credits that confirm this as well. I've got mixed feelings about this. It allows for some further characterization and deeper writing.... but frankly, while I very much enjoy Bethesda's games, they are not who I turn to for deeper writing. I'd really feel better with a presumed AFGNCAAP and customize as you like.
And also that the character would begin in a cryogenic chamber, which is why its sort of interesting to have the flashbacks; implying that the dwellers of Vault of 111 are actually from the old-world, not descendants of the occupants. Which I guess adds to the notion that the family man we see in the flashbacks may the same guy at the end of the trailer.
That certainly would at least be a different take. It would also plot wise be a good reason for why the protagonist might ask those weirdly obvious questions a normal dweller in the world would probably already know, like, "What is a ghoul? What is a radroach? Why do we use bottlecaps for currency? Why is everything brown?" :)
Annoying for folks who prefer more of a blank slate though. Of course as you say, it is all speculation. :)
New laptop or PC capable of running new things at cutting edge, like $2,000 (if lucky).
Nah. Logical Increments can hook you up with a pretty solid gaming machine for around $600. You'll need a monitor, mouse, and keyboard, but most people already have those lying around.
New Console capable of running games without game randomly crashing because of incompatible video card, or random software glitches, or any number of things where the game just doesn't want to run for like no reason. $400.
Sure, but your experience couldn't be described as "cutting edge", really. At best, you're getting a package of hardware that offered mid-range performance two years ago. And it doesn't stop games from crashing completely; you'll experience fewer crashes and bugs, but there's nothing magical about consoles that makes them immune to problems.
Consoles do a great job, without nearly the amount of fiddling you have to do with PCs, and they are hella cheaper.
They involve less fiddling, and are somewhat cheaper. They are also less versatile and generally perform more poorly in the graphics department. It's a trade-off.
Guys, can we stop the "my preferred platform for gaming is the best and everyone else's is wrongbadfun?" It gets really freaking old. It always seems like what's really going on is people are insecure about whatever investment they've made in whatever system they've got, and thus take discussions of any other platform like a personal attack.
My guess is that this has nothing to do with personal investment - at least, not here. I think most people in this thread have personal experience with owning both consoles and PCs. I have every previous-gen console/portable, and some current-gen machines. I also have a gaming PC. I invested in both, and I feel pretty secure in discussing the upsides and downsides of each.
I think that having a non-voiced character has always felt like a means of immersion for me. It allowed me to project as I wanted onto the character. I Hope they don't change that. Won't be a deal breaker though.
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I think that having a non-voiced character has always felt like a means of immersion for me. It allowed me to project as I wanted onto the character. I Hope they don't change that. Won't be a deal breaker though.
I agree, it's not a deal breaker. I am concerned though that in what's often been celebrated as a sandbox, they are essentially limiting roleplay options. But I recognize it may well be way too early to worry one way or the other.