Where to go with cleric?


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so i'm a level 3 human cleric. i have taken 3/4 channeling feats

- selective channel
- improved channel
- versatile channeler

the last i take will be extra channel.

my concern is this. what do i do after i have the last one? What am i suppose to do then? I just wanted to be a decent channler/support class. not a melee fighter.
here are my stats.

str - 14
dex - 9 (i'm short and fat, this number represents that)
con - 15
int - 13
wis - 17
cha - 17

yeah i rolled those on 3d6. my friends were like WHAAATTT!!!

anyways. suggestion appreciated. thanks in advance.


The first question I would ask is what god does your character serve? What experiences has your character had? Toughness or one of the human only feats in the race guide are not bad choices.

Liberty's Edge

Can we have more information? Which deity do you follow? What are your domains? Do you have traits?
Since you have "Versatile Channeler", I assume you are a neutral cleric of a neutral deity.


Domains?
Any Archetypes?
Willing to take Prestige classes?

Being a support class can get you into combat. One option I was currently messing around with was Holy Vindicator. A four level dip would only cost you 1 level of spell casting and would NOT hurt your channeling. You would gain some Vindicators shield and few other tidbits. The shield would help you be that support guy in combat. You can be right there next to the fighter healing/buffing, standing in front of the wizard, ect, ect...


Human - 1 feat
Level 1 - 1 feat
Level 3 - 1 feat

You only have 3 feats, not 4.

That said, if you're not looking at melee at all, I'd see about swapping your str/dex scores, that way you can bump your AC/reflex up a bit and have a higher chance of hitting with ranged attacks. You're not going to be casting spells every single round, so you'll want something to do (then again, you do have decent charisma, you could walk around Intimidating/Demoralizing everything). Short and fat doesn't mean non-dextrous, but it might mean that you don't like to work out ;-)

Also, keep in mind that channeling does requires that you be within 30', which often tosses you right into melee anyway.

If you are focusing on spells, you'll want to look into metamagics to give you better bang for your buck. Extending the duration of a buff could be quite handy.


I worship ALVIS, God of Drinking and Revenge. He is N.

I have the Luck, and Chaos Domains.

Traits - Sacred Conduit & Wisdom in Flesh

We are playing homebrew, I don't do the whole PFS thing.

We are only LV 3.


AerynTahlro wrote:

Human - 1 feat

Level 1 - 1 feat
Level 3 - 1 feat

You only have 3 feats, not 4.

That said, if you're not looking at melee at all, I'd see about swapping your str/dex scores, that way you can bump your AC/reflex up a bit and have a higher chance of hitting with ranged attacks. You're not going to be casting spells every single round, so you'll want something to do (then again, you do have decent charisma, you could walk around Intimidating/Demoralizing everything). Short and fat doesn't mean non-dextrous, but it might mean that you don't like to work out ;-)

Also, keep in mind that channeling does requires that you be within 30', which often tosses you right into melee anyway.

If you are focusing on spells, you'll want to look into metamagics to give you better bang for your buck. Extending the duration of a buff could be quite handy.

I should have said.

I already have 3 of the 4 feats I knew I was going to take when I started the game. After I take that 4th one, I dunno where I'm going.

Switching the dex & str is good start. i'll see if i can make that happen.


try building towards Holy Vindicator. Alignment channel is my preferred route. The prestige class will give some extra channeling options.


What book is Holy Vindicator?


The APG


Quick channel and reach spell both seem like a good addition.


What is you god's weapon?

Channel Smite/Guided hand might be a good one.

And scribe Scroll. You can prepare all your utility spells (like Blood Biography) on scrolls and save your slots for stuff that truly matters.


darkwarriorkarg wrote:

What is you god's weapon?

Channel Smite/Guided hand might be a good one.

And scribe Scroll. You can prepare all your utility spells (like Blood Biography) on scrolls and save your slots for stuff that truly matters.

My god uses the crowbar, much like in LFD2.

I actually like the idea scribe scroll. That is a really really good idea. research time. I think i'll actually skip extra channel for scribe scroll.


There's a sticky at the top with a few cleric guides you can take a look at that will help you consider your next direction.


I'd consider going defensive.

Armor Proficiency, Heavy
Tower Shield Proficiency
Shield Focus
Toughness
Iron Will/Improved Iron Will
Great Fortitude/Improved Great Fortitude
Lightning Reflexes/Improved Lightning Reflexes
Defensive Combat Training

I think standing in full plate, behind a tower shield, popping channels seems like it might fit your PC.

Lantern Lodge

Suggest swapping Improve Channel for Quick Channel. Unless your making a anti-undead Cleric, there is no real need for a higher DC on your channels.

Quick channel - allows you to heal and cast a spell in one round! Could be a life saver. For example, you can heal a downed party member and skill pull off that Obscuring Mist, to stop more arrows from targeting your party.

After that try:

Toughness - More Hp is always good for the party's healer. After all, if you go down, the party goes down.

Improve Initiative - Its always better to start first in combat. Starting first means you can get a buff on your allies before they start fighting.

Combat Casting - Always useful for a spellcaster. And you did say you want to be a channler/support Cleric.

Scribe Scroll - Is good if you can afford the gold to make the most of it.

Armor Proficiency, Heavy - Is an option if you think you are fine with being slowed down...

Any of the Feats that improve saves, could be a good choice. BUT! Remember that some saves, like your Reflex is already... bad... a feat may not help that much, grab more hp via toughness and tank that damage. After all you can heal yourself via spells and channel.

Lots of choices for you. Pick what you think is best!


As Brambleman and I have stated Holy Vindicator (HV) would add alot to your character. Its in the APG. HV would also give you Heavy armor proficiency along with full BAB and d10 Hitdice. This saves you from having to pick up Heavy Armor proficiency feat, Toughness, and Defensive combat training. The Vindicator's shield will be a nice boost to your ac now, and huge boost to your AC later on.

I agree with Secane on the Quicken Channel thing, and on the Combat casting feat.

You have good saves already so while the feats that increase saves are nice, there are better choices. Normally I am a huge advocate of Improved Initiative but I found that without the battlefield control spells of an arcane caster its not really needed. As a support cleric you will be helping by responding to what they enemy does anyway.


I always go last at the table. Last game I played a rogue with a +13 Intiative. Still went last every turn. Thats just how my intiative rolls go.

Grand Lodge

What is the relevant weapon for "crowbar"?


heavy mace.

Grand Lodge

A Consecrated, Guided Heavy Mace will make you heavier hitter.

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