The "World of Peace" Discussion


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So im going to be around all day sunday again. Thats really my best day. Everyone try and get on as im going to try and move you guys forward in regards to items and plans. Some had mentioned trips into the woods. Whatever you want to do.


Female Human Mighty/Adept Godling Gestalt

I will get my companion in a way fitting for a "godling", it will be for flavor mostly and to make my method different from the typical one.


Male half elf alchemist, barbarian 3

just a side thing, i think we should say what time zone we are in. for me i am in pacific time zone. just so we all know when we could expect others on.


Female Human Mighty/Adept Godling Gestalt

I am in CET (Central European Timezone, GMT+1), the "3B-s zone" (Brussels, Berlin, Budapest), but I often post very late and sometimes fly with a plane and thus cross timezones anyway. This results in chaotic intervals of sleep and posting. ^_^


AC 17|HP 32/32|PP 31/45|Initi+3|F+1R+7W+5|Per+11 Elf/outsider Bard5/Psion(TP)5

Im working all over China at the moment so im mostly GMT+8 but may have to head back to UK in 4 weeks so back to GMT+0


China, GMT+8


Well im sitting pretty on the east coast usa. Gmt -5 i beleive. So sunday is kind of relative then.


Stats:
HP = 70, F +9, R +2, W +12, Init +4; Darkvision 90', Scent; Perc. +14, Bluff +23, SM +16, Stealth +8

Im East coast USA also and available from around 5am to 9pm most days.


Female Human Mighty/Adept Godling Gestalt

Earth got mentioned earlier, and now England, this isn't Earth however based on the info about it, so what is this all about?


Stats:
HP = 70, F +9, R +2, W +12, Init +4; Darkvision 90', Scent; Perc. +14, Bluff +23, SM +16, Stealth +8

From what Ive gathered its Earth physically but not historically.


AC 17|HP 32/32|PP 31/45|Initi+3|F+1R+7W+5|Per+11 Elf/outsider Bard5/Psion(TP)5

From GM

The Harlequin - You remember this plane, you remember seeing it from a distance as you got closer and closer. You remember that many have told you to avoid this place, you came here anyways. It is known by some as Earth, others as "the World of Peace", and still more as dangerous.

So its earth

A great sculptor has many secrets they do not reveal. Time was something they had in abundance and used it to their advantage to polish this world clean. They being those who follow the one god Peligree.

This was THE earth but Its been changed from what it once was, hence the book being very old.


It's not as simple as just enchantments and manipulations anymore. The world does this to itself now. The order exerts almost no pressure. People are...happy, perhaps content is a better word.

The world is changed and stays that way on its own.

There are places I hold sway. If you'd like to see a map of the known world perhaps you will have a better Idea than what I've been thinking.

"map of the known world" IE the world she knows about. Looks like she not as all powerful as she thinks. Could some of the OLD world still be hidden away. We have the dope plants, and names from "Earth that was"

GM make a call time :)

I liked it because, come on how often do you get to quote Shakespeare in a D&D/pathfinder game, :)


Male half elf alchemist, barbarian 3

I would like to point out, that we don't know what year equivalent it would be if it was indeed our earth, and if it is based on the same time as we live in today then the world has had peace for 2000 years meaning no England, of any real note. on the other hand it could be set 2000 years from now as well. but that is assuming this is our earth historically. the gm could have just put names on the map that would make it easier for us to know how far thing are apart and how big to think of the city's. as well as earth can just mean dirt or a place to grow things, solid ground. main point, for any campaign in a home brew setting, don't make assumptions and act as if they are right. it is the gm's world we are just living in it.


AC 17|HP 32/32|PP 31/45|Initi+3|F+1R+7W+5|Per+11 Elf/outsider Bard5/Psion(TP)5

The thing about Roll playing games, I was once told by a very well know game designer and some thing I feel was very well put. Is that its a collaborative act of creation, its one of the few forms of entertainment that truly works this way. The game narrator works with the players, letting every ones input ideas and suggestions. Which get link together to craft a place to enjoy and explore. Assuming your allowed to do this is part of the game and the play. The guy who told me this is very well know, I will not name drop, but he knows what hes talking about believe me.

That is all I have done, as PbP lets you Un-Post/ retro/undo actions its very ease, to offer up some input and have it removed, Exploring and building as you do.

I can only say that's how I play and GM my games. You look at whats going on, hear/read every ones input and then add your own, hoping it will add more or move things along in a fun and interesting way. Now you may as another player say, well I do not agree with that course of action and that's happens all the time and is part of game play as well, its part of crafting the game I would say.

New to be more specific, England or more to the point, is the Game world Earth the "Earth" and is this game set in the Future. I from the start got the feeling that it was, also from GM PM chat. But now two players have said they are not happy with this idea. Now I am one player and pushing my single view over the views of two others brakes the very idea I just posted above. The crafting brakes down if your over riding others views.

So I ask the GM and players to discount my last post.

I hope that helps every one,

:)


Female Human Mighty/Adept Godling Gestalt

erm, would love it if we could avoid GM PM-channels and have proper open info for everyone, for me it was not the first awkward moment to read about mention of England in this game

I don't like the idea of Earth being the game world to be honest (not for this concept/setting), and if it is I would rather have it play out in ancient times, similar to Earth Dawn method instead of in the future.


Basically from my view - This world is normal D&D style mechanics. It's not modern tech level, nor is it close. That means that any history on this world must be older than the technology currently employed. I'm actually not very good with history myself.

I agree that this world is something we should build together. However, some parts have already been built. Those things mean that you cannot simply assume what you want. Perhaps Shakespeare did exist to write that book. However, Homer may have been nothing on this world. Your character has certainly heard of this place, but your may not know everything. To figure out if Shakespeare exists it works best if you ask me with ooc tags and give a relevant skill check. Then I can see if that artist, or person would fit into the past I know of this world and inform you.

In closing, Yes this world has similarities with the old world in more than just geography. Your characters have no clue about the specifics until you ask, or research, or roll. In truth I do not truly know until you inspire me with your question. I understand what would fit, but I do not know enough history to have figured out all of the pieces yet. I hope that helps.


I will only pass information that should be secret, or that is not relevant through PM's. I just think Harlequin is going with the imagination and rolling. I definitely didn't PM about Shakespeare or anything. In fact the only PM i got recently was about equipment.


AC 17|HP 32/32|PP 31/45|Initi+3|F+1R+7W+5|Per+11 Elf/outsider Bard5/Psion(TP)5

To second what the GM just said I am not privy to any more information than the rest of the players. My reading on a tech only PM is all.


Female Human Mighty/Adept Godling Gestalt

GM, are the two magical items fine? Other than those I will stack up on potions and whatnot that already exist written.


Male half elf alchemist, barbarian 3

@gm, if you wanted to i am sure we can help you find out what history would still be around, we would need to know a starting point for when the peace started, and if we are at a our current real world date, or a time in the past or future, if only for a frame of reference. this idea is only to help you find out what history might exist in your world, or would allow to exist. but in the end it is just an offer that you can take or leave, after all you have played this setting in real life already, and have a number of things established.


AC 17|HP 32/32|PP 31/45|Initi+3|F+1R+7W+5|Per+11 Elf/outsider Bard5/Psion(TP)5

i agree with tronath


Stats:
HP = 70, F +9, R +2, W +12, Init +4; Darkvision 90', Scent; Perc. +14, Bluff +23, SM +16, Stealth +8

I couldnt care less about the history matching up. If you want to quote Shakespeare go right ahead but does it have to be Shakespeare? You could claim his works as your own as far as Im concerned or call the poet Bragan Fergest, Saint Nick any other contrived name. Ive just been taking it as Earth physically, ie the names and locations of the places are the same but otherwise the history is completely contrived. Because lets face it; there is no way one religion and global peace is ever going to happen; thankfully so as well. PC's writing history opens a can of worms and will just end up a mess IMHO. PC's creating a present and future are another thing entirely though ^_^


AC 17|HP 32/32|PP 31/45|Initi+3|F+1R+7W+5|Per+11 Elf/outsider Bard5/Psion(TP)5

From the GMs post i think i have been vindicated of any crimes agaist to game play. :)
I posted about the above in gameplay, as we are from other times and places I feel we do not have to stick to the history of this world we all have our pcs past its just my pc has a knolage of poems jokes plays works by writers and performes out side of this world and planes, other earths my even come into play with ones own pcs back ground.


So Shakespeare did not exist. I've been thinking and the history of this religion would have started before Christianity. So well before O year. Culture would have developed along similar lines, so things like Theater, Music, and Clicks(hippies, hipsters, ect) would have developed but specific people tied to these things will not have a chance to exist. You could have easily learned those poems from your previous existence. I don't see any reason why that can't work.


AC 17|HP 32/32|PP 31/45|Initi+3|F+1R+7W+5|Per+11 Elf/outsider Bard5/Psion(TP)5

That's just what I was thinking, As we have had other lives before this, that means for my PC any why I can bring things in change them to fit her in play. In this way the world can be clean but we are not hehe


AC 17|HP 32/32|PP 31/45|Initi+3|F+1R+7W+5|Per+11 Elf/outsider Bard5/Psion(TP)5

I have changed my back story just a small but GM to simply things and
make my PC fit in more.

The Harlequin

The being now known as the The Harlequin is part Evil Psionic outsider (Only known as "Them") a mete MEME life Form that lives by taking over the minds or midea of other beings, a Virus of the mind. This being is Vastly old and lives by copying itself into hosts and objects that Infect such hosts. In this case a Harlequin mask. This was was placed on the face of an elf Bard, blending with her mind and making the "The Harlequin".

The Witch just placed the mask on an unwilling subject and looked on as her mind was broken and taken over by the Evil Psionic outsider to make the "The Harlequin."

just makes it simpler.


Female Human Mighty/Adept Godling Gestalt

Sorry about delay, had a mild food poisoning

I hope I didn't miss anything, and sorry if the group is in any way hindered by my recent lack of activity


AC 17|HP 32/32|PP 31/45|Initi+3|F+1R+7W+5|Per+11 Elf/outsider Bard5/Psion(TP)5

posting seems to have slowed down some what, what happoned to one post a day? I know RL gets in the way but not much to read with 4 post each thread, not having a go just saying its a bit slow even for PbP every one.


Honestly the style of this game is deterring me from posting. Feeling an acute lack of motivation to be creative about grabbing a fox under a bush. This sort of thing is a total waste of time to Merran. That combined with a lack of maps and standard formatting/running of combat.

So we walked out into a forest, and killed a random cat. After that no one knew where to go so we wandered around looking at trees for a few minutes, and now the giant crazy mutated barbarian thing is wrestling a fox in a bush while the clown elf flies overhead reading? What's the point of this game again? Why do I care? How far am I from the bush? What's a consolidated clearly labeled run down of the initiative? Are we in the surprise round? Round 1?

Not trying to be rude, but I don't know what else to say.


AC 17|HP 32/32|PP 31/45|Initi+3|F+1R+7W+5|Per+11 Elf/outsider Bard5/Psion(TP)5

Merran, hang on there, just becouse like to play games like a war gamer dos not mean the rest of use have to, Im used to playing Amber that has no Dice and is pour RPG. I like this its our PCs are exploring a world that has never seen out kind before, No I hate to go back to it, but I did have a plan that was more than run around the woods picking of Foxs and the odd cat. But that was poo pooed, Im a Roll player not a wargaming hack as slasher, im not looking for an Endless line of goons to kill and looking to go see the world so can we place stop this messing around in the woods silly ness had head of to a town or city as has been sujested.
I have maps and I know where we are.


I'm not saying anything about how any one else should play, I'm just explaining my lack of posting.

I went back and reread everything since my last post. So we saw a flash of red, presumably from the same clearing where we fought the cat. We made perception checks, and none of us saw it after that. We tried to track it, no tracks. Then Harley flew up and saw it, suddenly it's 5 minutes later and we're in a different place. Merran still can't even see what's going on, and then Tronath runs into the bushes and is grappling something. Now we're in combat, but when did it start? Where is everyone? From what I can tell the initiative should be something like this:

Sicsivicus 17
Tronath Colastar 16
Fox 14
The Harlequin 7
Merran 3
Lanrah 2

But why am I the one doing this and not DM? How is the fox breaking out the grapple when its ass should be possibly pinned before it even gets to act? Why is Harley reading and eating crackers on Sicsivicus' turn? I didn't even know my initiative until I just deciphered it..the post was only labeled Merran:blah blah didn't even say what the roll was. This is my point. It was never even said "oh, now we're in combat. everyone should wait for their turn to act". It's relatively opaque what's going on, so it makes it very difficult to post anything meaningful.


Sorry if this isnt grooving with your style. The way I see it your sort of romping through the woods. Battles here cam sprawl out as things run away and regroup making a map generally difficult to use properly. I will have maps for places where they are agreeable to the fighting and scene.

As for the confuaion with where you are. I should have been more clear however i just went with the asumption that tracking takes time and distance to do. You didnt just look down and see no tracks and call it a day.

Now about Why you could only see a dark shape of the fox. Thats because the thing still had great concealment you just happened to beat its stealth so you know its there.

Finally, combat rounds are a bit of an abstraction. I uaually start combat with the first agressive action. Then the people who are aware of the situation get their suprise round. In this case tronath, and the fox were aware and acting so they went first. We are now in round 1 with sicsivicus starting us off. I described the fox slipping from tronaths grasp because we know thats going to happen on tronaths initiative. Basically im trying to make it a bit more cinematic than turn based. Sicsivicus now may do something different as he sees the fox slipping away. I plan to have proper initiative order with bigger more important battles. You guys are still in "tutorial forest", and only fighting one thing so it didnt seem neccisary.

I hope that was enlightening.


Male Pale Master

I agree with Merran in that Sicsivicus sees the fox as beneath him and definitely not worth the trouble right now...I imagine that could change any second and it proves worthy of attention but until so thats how it goes.

The lack of maps so far isnt as that big of a deal.

I resent the idea that since we didnt go along with Harly's 'clown's r us' plan that we evidently arent good roleplayers and are evidently just down for hack and slash. This attitude will have me seeking another game pretty quickly. I am appalled at the ego it takes to even suggest such a thing.


Sorry if I came off as a bit b*tchy, I was just trying to put it out there that I was feeling a serious lack of structure. That all makes sense, and if it had been said up front I wouldn't be complaining. All I ask is you make things clear :)

No maps is fine for little things, that wasn't my point. Thanks for the clarifying post, I'll be waiting for my turn.


male Tiefling Gestalt staff magus/weapon adept monk 5

As far as our game goes I'm just not sure what to do. I'm following the lead of the others for the moment.


Yeh im not sure where the holy vessels are at either. Ive sent pms to those who havnt posted recently.

Merran and everyone. I encourage you to post your concerns and problems. I have no problem changing my style to suit you as long as its feasable for me to do so. Ive been posting from my phone a lot lately because of tourist season craziness on marthas vineyard right now. Im sure that has been effecting my formating and particularly the initiative thing. Ita just time consuming to check your char sheets on this thing. All should be well after today though as the craziest week comes to an end and i can find time to computer it up. I should have warned you about these things but i thought i could handle it. Word lets get back to it.


AC 17|HP 32/32|PP 31/45|Initi+3|F+1R+7W+5|Per+11 Elf/outsider Bard5/Psion(TP)5

I feel that I should not even have to defend myself here but to make clear and In responce to Stiehl9s last post, on this thread,

Player Stiehl9s if you resent an idea your own mind seems to have pulled out of my posting to another player on a spasific subject. Well There is nothing I can do about that, what gos off in your head your afear.

I made it clear when responding to Merran Yesterday that I am a Roll Player and not wargaming hack as slasher, In the context of our two posts this means, I do not need a tight bounding of rules to RPG, that why I talked about Amber RPG, this meaning the tight use of rounds and Initiative and such, as the GM has just posted, he seems to feel the same way as I do.

Also to make clare, you will note at the end to my responce to Merran post I said lets go to a town or city as has been suggested. Now current me of I a wrong, but that was you who suggested that, yes?.

Now with all due respect I suggest to you, that you stop being overly sensitive to posts sent in responce to other players. If only for the sake of keeping interplayer discussion relevant and even tempered.

Yours with respect
GM Spugly Fuglet


I find these charts useful for grappling Tronath:

Chart 1

Chart 2


Female Human Mighty/Adept Godling Gestalt

Sorry on my own situation, seems like I am still ill while I thought I am already fine


AC 17|HP 32/32|PP 31/45|Initi+3|F+1R+7W+5|Per+11 Elf/outsider Bard5/Psion(TP)5

I'v been having a think and I am going to quit this game, I am just not finding it enjoyable, its to eratic and to slow, this is just me, nothing to do with other players or the GM but I do like a some what faster pace. So Have fun every one and good bye.


That's my cue as well. For the same reasons, this game is going nowhere fast and I have my own six games to run. Best of luck to everyone, hopefully we'll play together again in another game sometime. No hard feelings though, this was a good try.


Male half elf alchemist, barbarian 3

same, just got two jobs at the same time, going from none. and now running a pbp for the first time when the gm left. it was worth a shot, this feels like something that can be much easier at the table


Ok guys. This is for everyone. Would you like me to continue this game. I can always bring you together if necessary.


male Tiefling Gestalt staff magus/weapon adept monk 5

I'd like to speed up the action a bit, but otherwise I'm good with continuing.


Female Half Elf/ (Drow Noble) Vitalist5/ (Antipladin5)

sorry, been busy this week. lets keep it rolling


Sicsivicus if youd like to keep playing perhaps i can work you in with the holy vessels.


I guesd im just going to call this one quits. Nobody is really posting. Sorry tcg, and those who put in effort. Im just a reactive dm and i feel like im expected to lead you somewhere when i dont really have a place to lead you. Hopefully there are no hard feelings.


What it says on the tin; Caffiene addict 20

No worries. Maybe next time.


I will try again this fall so keep gideon around.


What it says on the tin; Caffiene addict 20
DM Irie wrote:
I will try again this fall so keep gideon around.

Alrighty. Send me a pm when you're ready.


If it's all right, I may try again when you repost. I think the mistake we made was that we all staye together as a group, even though our individual goals would probably be better served if we'd split up.

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