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What's the usual turn around from release of product to what is determined to be legal?Pretty variable and if the answer is "nothing" (though that doesn't seem likely for the Player Companion line), there may not be an explicit announcement.
Note that the lead time for product getting into Additional Resources just recently changed, as it is now vetted not only by Mike & John, but hoes through a review process with the VOs on the secret boards.
I believe it was mentioned that it would add about two weeks delay to the addition to AR.
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and the inside back cover are legal for play, except augur kyton, beheaded, ceru, clockwork familiar, coral capuchin, doru div, dweomercat cub, faerie dragon, impundulu, isitoq, pipefox, raktavarna rakshasa, ratling, shadow drake, shikigami kami, sin seeker, skvader, spirit oni, tidepool dragon, tripurasura, and wolpertinger
*whistles* That's a lot of exceptions! I don't have the book in front of me, but either there's an impossible amount of Improved Familiars listed or that list would be shorter if it just explicitly legalized certain familiars.
Any chance of the list of Improved Familiars allowed to use wands being revisited with the introduction of the Familiar Folio? Strike while the iron is hot, I say!
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and the inside back cover are legal for play, except augur kyton, beheaded, ceru, clockwork familiar, coral capuchin, doru div, dweomercat cub, faerie dragon, impundulu, isitoq, pipefox, raktavarna rakshasa, ratling, shadow drake, shikigami kami, sin seeker, skvader, spirit oni, tidepool dragon, tripurasura, and wolpertinger*whistles* That's a lot of exceptions! I don't have the book in front of me, but either there's an impossible amount of Improved Familiars listed or that list would be shorter if it just explicitly legalized certain familiars.
Primarily it is intended to maintain the same allowed/not-allowed familiars as noted by other resources on the page.
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Is there any chance at all that the pooka will be allowed to use magic device as the familiar folio specifically says it is a familiar that can?
If this is answered affirmatively, the Grand Lodge in Absalom will soon be overrun with bunny-girls and bunny-girl fetishists. Is this a good or bad thing? YMMV.
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and the inside back cover are legal for play, except augur kyton, beheaded, ceru, clockwork familiar, coral capuchin, doru div, dweomercat cub, faerie dragon, impundulu, isitoq, pipefox, raktavarna rakshasa, ratling, shadow drake, shikigami kami, sin seeker, skvader, spirit oni, tidepool dragon, tripurasura, and wolpertinger*whistles* That's a lot of exceptions! I don't have the book in front of me, but either there's an impossible amount of Improved Familiars listed or that list would be shorter if it just explicitly legalized certain familiars.
See, I was thinking how awesome it will be to see these on chronicle sheets in hte future (two already are)
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Primarily it is intended to maintain the same allowed/not-allowed familiars as noted by other resources on the page.and the inside back cover are legal for play, except augur kyton, beheaded, ceru, clockwork familiar, coral capuchin, doru div, dweomercat cub, faerie dragon, impundulu, isitoq, pipefox, raktavarna rakshasa, ratling, shadow drake, shikigami kami, sin seeker, skvader, spirit oni, tidepool dragon, tripurasura, and wolpertinger*whistles* That's a lot of exceptions! I don't have the book in front of me, but either there's an impossible amount of Improved Familiars listed or that list would be shorter if it just explicitly legalized certain familiars.
I noticed that the Harbinger Archon is not legal according to the Bestiary 3 entry, but is not excluded here. Is that intentional or an oversight? I didn't check for any other discrepancies, and only noticed this one because I'd had my eye on the Chosen One.
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I noticed that the Harbinger Archon is not legal according to the Bestiary 3 entry, but is not excluded here. Is that intentional or an oversight? I didn't check for any other discrepancies, and only noticed this one because I'd had my eye on the Chosen One.Primarily it is intended to maintain the same allowed/not-allowed familiars as noted by other resources on the page.and the inside back cover are legal for play, except augur kyton, beheaded, ceru, clockwork familiar, coral capuchin, doru div, dweomercat cub, faerie dragon, impundulu, isitoq, pipefox, raktavarna rakshasa, ratling, shadow drake, shikigami kami, sin seeker, skvader, spirit oni, tidepool dragon, tripurasura, and wolpertinger*whistles* That's a lot of exceptions! I don't have the book in front of me, but either there's an impossible amount of Improved Familiars listed or that list would be shorter if it just explicitly legalized certain familiars.
It is an oversight. I will correct in the next update.
familiars is a class feature, ud have to replace that. way to many things were made lega; from that book. i afraid to actually look what the stuff is i was hopin none of it would get thru. i hate the power creepThen play core mode.I am very concerned by this attitude, and I hope that it isn't Paizo's policy.
It indicates a view that power creep is inevitable, and that there is no real likelihood that it will be stopping. But hey! if you really have a problem, you can throw out everything Paizo has done over the last four years to avoid it!
If you're going to dismiss everything that comes out as power creep without even looking at what it is (which is apparently what Sarvei did) then yes, you should absolutely play Core and throw out everything Paizo has done the last four years. Better than you ruining it for everyone else.
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familiars is a class feature, ud have to replace that. way to many things were made lega; from that book. i afraid to actually look what the stuff is i was hopin none of it would get thru. i hate the power creepThen play core mode.I am very concerned by this attitude, and I hope that it isn't Paizo's policy.
It indicates a view that power creep is inevitable, and that there is no real likelihood that it will be stopping. But hey! if you really have a problem, you can throw out everything Paizo has done over the last four years to avoid it!
It's not Paizo's policy. But if you feel it's power creep then don't use it, or play the core. I and others feel that this folio isn't power creep at all. Unless you can point out the thing in there is definitely better than any other option, I'm not seeing a problem with the book. So if someone is feeling overwhelmed then the core can be a good option for them since it has fewer choices available.
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i did state i was gonna need to look at the book, i never said everything was adding to the power creep i said many things in that book did the 1st time i glanced thru it is all. im ok with eventual power creep but you need to draw a limit on some stuff or some classes will be 100% pointless to play. i enjoy the main mode of society but some stuff they dont need to add, i honestly feel they need to look at whats out and put in erratas and faqs that are way over due.
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i did state i was gonna need to look at the book, i never said everything was adding to the power creep i said many things in that book did the 1st time i glanced thru it is all. im ok with eventual power creep but you need to draw a limit on some stuff or some classes will be 100% pointless to play. i enjoy the main mode of society but some stuff they dont need to add, i honestly feel they need to look at whats out and put in erratas and faqs that are way over due.
I'm Highly curious as to what you thought was power creep in the book, even if only at first glance.
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I appreciate that you're responding. Thank you for discussing this.
1) did you see what they miss out on to get the familiar? Also non casting classes are generally overall worse off than casting classes, so giving them something fun and different than they normally had I don't feel is power creep. besides, what are they going to do with it? Have a gimped animal companion?
2) for the wizard to do that he loses out on all his bonus feats, and it's not class levels, it's having the BAB and Saving throws from a different class. So you could go paladin for full bab and 2 good saves instead of the wizards half bab and 1 good save. So now it's a little more likely to hit your touch spells and not die to a save.
What of this or something I didn't say do you feel is the problem for organized play?
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ok i looked around and could not find an official ruling on this one. So, if Riddywhipple dies, your done you dont get another one. That, at least, seems clear (ish again nothing official i can find). But would that apply to a dismiss and re hire ? Can you put a template on him from the Familiar Folio by doing that? Flowing another thread regarding animal archive, i would think yes, but...might as well put the question out there for clarification.
This would be better served as a new thread in the rules forum.
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ok i looked around and could not find an official ruling on this one. So, if Riddywhipple dies, your done you dont get another one. That, at least, seems clear (ish again nothing official i can find). But would that apply to a dismiss and re hire ? Can you put a template on him from the Familiar Folio by doing that? Flowing another thread regarding animal archive, i would think yes, but...might as well put the question out there for clarification.
I believe there was a thread on Riddywhipple when Animal Archive got approved, and the post (from Mike Brock, IIRC) was, basically, Riddywhipple is Riddywhipple, he is what he is. If he dies, you have to either raise him, or get a different familiar.