Alignment Channel questions


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So there's a lawful evil cleric. He has the "alignment channel" feat for evil. As I understand it, that would allow him to choose between healing evil outsiders and harming evil outsiders, but does nothing to good outsiders, correct?

Second question, what if the evil outsider is an undead? Can he harm the evil outsider undead with his alignment channel feat even though channeling negative energy wouldn't ordinarily be able to harm regular undead?


By the way it's worded... yes if you chose evil, you would channel to heal/harm evil outsiders.

Kind of weird. I would have thought it would let you channel to heal that alignment, or harm its inverse...

Second question: I'm not entirely sure what type of energy is actually being channeled at this point- with alignment channel, are you actually still channeling positive or negative energy anymore? Even if you are, if you chose to 'harm' an evil undead outsider, wouldn't that mean you'd channel positive energy? Or would you have to illogically declare 'heal' so you'd pump positive into them.

Sovereign Court

From the wording, I don't think it matters whether your using positive or negative. If you have Alignment Channel (Lawful), if would seem that you could use either positive or negative energy to either heal or harm archons, axiomites, and devils. You would simply declare "I use negative energy to heal lawful outsiders" or "I use negative energy to harm lawful outsiders". If an archon and a devil happened to be locking horns within 30' of you, both would be effected in the same way.
If one or both outsiders happened to be undead it wouldn't matter, because you're targeting the energy against outsiders, not against undead. (However, if I were GMing, I'd probably tweak the rule a bit with a house rule, because it doesn't fluff up quite right).
Any dispute of my interpretation?

Shadow Lodge

Only a minor one. You need to declare you are use Alignment Channeling, (trying to heal or harm the Outsider type), and if the outsider also happens to be an Undead, then it actually would not affect them at all, because you chose to use an option that dos not "target" Undead.

Alignment Channeling does still use Postive/Negative Energy, but Pathfinder has made a real mess of what those things actually mean. Not all uses f Negative Energy heal Undead, and not all uses of Positive Energy heal the living, or even harm Undead.

Sovereign Court

I just understand that when you channel, you simply declare (1) positive or negative energy and (2) target. Without targeting feats, you can only choose living or undead as targets.
Alightment Channel allows you to add good, evil, lawful, and chaotic to the list (one feat each). Elemental Channel allows you to add fire, water, earth, and air to the list (one feat each). If you are targeting an outsider type, you also have to specify (3) harm or heal.
Does that sum it up?
Also, I've never come accross any natives of the outer planes with the undead subtype. Is this actually possible?

Silver Crusade

The feat description says:
Special: You can gain this feat multiple times. Its effects do not stack. Each time you take this feat, it applies to a new alignment subtype. Whenever you channel energy, you must choose which type to effect.

I have just selected this feat, because I can channel positive energy and I want to use positive energy to harm evil outsiders. When it says I choose which type to effect, it means I must select living, undead or evil outsiders, not that I can choose to heal good outsiders, or harm chaotic outsiders. When I take the feat, I take Alignment Channel, Evil, not simply Alignment Channel.

I suppose I could use positive energy to heal evil outsiders, but I would never want to do that.


Alignment Channel, Lawful is great.

I've built a paladin with Channel Smite, and Alignment Channel (Lawful).

This lets him heal Lawful Outsiders, (archons, etc) or harm lawful outsiders (devils, etc)

Smite Evil + Channel Smite against a devil will really put some hurt down. (some might say overkill. I say it's the only way to be sure.)

Very Respectfully,
--Bacon

Silver Crusade

Given the current troubles with demons, I am more likely to take Chaotic than Lawful, but you make an excellent point.
I already took Evil, so I can't/won't change, but I might pick up Chaotic later.

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