Entering a threatened space does not provoke AoOs. Like you said, you have to either keep moving through someone's threatened spaces or leave their threatened spaces. If you're looking for quotes from a source, I'm sure someone else can do that. =)
Also keep in mind that taking a 5-foot step does not provoke AoOs unless they have a feat or ability that changes the rules. But you can't travel any other distance than that on your turn, and you can't take 5-foot steps in difficult terrain.
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Provoking an Attack of Opportunity: Two kinds of actions can provoke attacks of opportunity: moving out of a threatened square and performing certain actions within a threatened square.
Moving: Moving out of a threatened square usually provokes attacks of opportunity from threatening opponents. There are two common methods of avoiding such an attack—the 5-foot step and the withdraw action.
Performing a Distracting Act: Some actions, when performed in a threatened square, provoke attacks of opportunity as you divert your attention from the battle. Table: Actions in Combat notes many of the actions that provoke attacks of opportunity.
From the PRD, emphasis mine.
Keep in mind that if the opponent has a greater reach than you do, you could still provoke an attack of opportunity while running up there to attack. It would still be from movement as you would be leaving a threatened square. Also, moving out of multiple squares threatened by the same opponent does not provoke multiple attacks of opportunity normally. It's considered one action.
As for attacks from the side or behind, there is no facing in Pathfinder so there are no bonuses to hit or penalties to AC. This is where flanking with a buddy is supposed to help. There are feats to make flanking better and easier, but you will still need a friend with you.
what "could" factor. If someone threatens out to 10 feet, and you close from 10 feet to 5 feat, you are leaving a threatened square, and therefore provoke. Its not a maybe. You simply do. no houserule needed.
Also, there is no facing in pathfinder. Dont worry about the sides or the back. Just remember the flanking rules, they make up for this lack.
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What are your thoughts on attacks from the side and behind. I come from the land of 1st ed and we always had +2 to hit from the side and +4 to hit from the rear. Thoughts?
It was seriously changed in 3.0+ There is no such thing as rear as there is no facing in d20. With rounds taking 6 seconds any rules considered facing and turning would be quite strange and artifical. Instead, it is assumed that opponents do not stand still but instead they move within borders of their square to optimize their defenses - flanking represents being threatened in a way that forces you to share your attention between opponents on different sides. Adding house rules for facing, rear and turning would require serious tinkering to avoid combat that would look very static ("no you can't turn to face your opponent who is attacking you as your turn won't start until five seconds passes...").
what "could" factor. If someone threatens out to 10 feet, and you close from 10 feet to 5 feat, you are leaving a threatened square, and therefore provoke. Its not a maybe. You simply do. no houserule needed.
Also, there is no facing in pathfinder. Dont worry about the sides or the back. Just remember the flanking rules, they make up for this lack.
Sounds reasonable to me. Thanks for the info guys....will be pulling this into the game this week.
I tell ya....it is a heck of a lot easier to gain information and opinions now...than it was in 1979...when I started in 1st ed. It is very nice to have a resource like this...and I appreciate the information.
Thanks
Ernie
I started in 1979 as well. I'm with ya, having the interwebz at my fingertips has really helped me understand the games better.
As for facing, WotC tried some rules for 3.5. You can find them here:
As you can see, some of it isn't too bad but there is a lot to take into account beyond just melee combat.
Does that officially make us the "old" guys? lolwhat "could" factor. If someone threatens out to 10 feet, and you close from 10 feet to 5 feat, you are leaving a threatened square, and therefore provoke. Its not a maybe. You simply do. no houserule needed.
Also, there is no facing in pathfinder. Dont worry about the sides or the back. Just remember the flanking rules, they make up for this lack.
Sounds reasonable to me. Thanks for the info guys....will be pulling this into the game this week.
I tell ya....it is a heck of a lot easier to gain information and opinions now...than it was in 1979...when I started in 1st ed. It is very nice to have a resource like this...and I appreciate the information.
Thanks
Ernie
I started in 1979 as well. I'm with ya, having the interwebz at my fingertips has really helped me understand the games better.
As for facing, WotC tried some rules for 3.5. You can find them here:
As you can see, some of it isn't too bad but there is a lot to take into account beyond just melee combat.
Sometimes I think so but then I remember I was only 8 then. I know people who started before that. To feel younger, I talk to them once in a while.
Hmmm. Agree with all that but why do I have this recollection that charging does attract an AoO?
Hmmm. Agree with all that but why do I have this recollection that charging does attract an AoO?
Charging on its own is not an automatic provoking action, but if you move out of a threatened square during your charge that does provoke.
Charging anything with reach will do that, since it will move through their outer threatened square
Charging anything with reach will do that, since it will move through their outer threatened square
Unless you also have reach.
Charging anything with reach will do that, since it will move through their outer threatened square
That's what I recall. Thanks
