Zyren's luxurious campfire... this time with marshmallows...


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VC - Sydney, Australia
Bree Longfield wrote:
Yeah... it sucks, let's be plain about it, lol.

Yeah ok, it sucks :)

Still, I'm sure there's plenty of stuff you CAN do.

Hey did you ever get back to us on what happened about that old friend you were going to meet? Or was the lack of news a sign for us to 'move on'?


Female Human Rogue-Knife Master/10 (Init: +4)
Shifty wrote:
Bree Longfield wrote:
Yeah... it sucks, let's be plain about it, lol.

Yeah ok, it sucks :)

Still, I'm sure there's plenty of stuff you CAN do.

Hey did you ever get back to us on what happened about that old friend you were going to meet? Or was the lack of news a sign for us to 'move on'?

Oh yes there is plenty I can still do.

Old friend? Are you talking about Bree going to look for her old friends to bring in more customers to the Goblin?


Dungeon Master

Hi Folks, I've had trouble with my internet connection for the last 24 hours. We still do not have it back yet, but hopefully by tomorrow I will be back up and running. For the moment, I am using my neighbor's line, but it does not work very reliably. Have a great day!


Male Orc Expert 5

Just finished watching Coraline with the wifey. Definitely something Neil Gaiman wrote. It's interesting and humorous on the edge of downright creepy like essentially everything he's wrote.


Male Gnome Sorcerer/9 - (HP: 49/49 - AC20;FF17;T18 - F+5;R+6;W+7 - Init+9 - Per+11)
Zyren Zemerys wrote:
** spoiler omitted **

Zyren:
I was thinking about an Oracle(Lore), but will look at Bard. Had not really thought about that. Let me read up on them and figure if it will work. I am traveling tomorrow, so it will probably be Sunday before I have something put together.

Divine Gamemaster of the Abyss and below...

Speaking of Neil Gaiman - Troll Bridge is one of my all-time favorite short stories.

@Tirion: Do you by chance own the White Wolf Changeling the Lost or Changeling the Dreaming rulebook? They abound of fluff that can surely be used toplay a changeling in Golarion - Haunting of Harrowstone does not present so much fluff...


Divine Gamemaster of the Abyss and below...

@ HODs:

Salfon and Bonzo: Bing


Divine Gamemaster of the Abyss and below...

Oh hey, the Zyren campaigns made it over the 10k posting count (in summation 10065 atm) grats to all of us :)


Divine Gamemaster of the Abyss and below...

Tumbleweed time again?


Male Pale Master

Hey now! very cool about the post count Zyren. Now its time to shoot for 20,000!


Female Human Rogue-Knife Master/10 (Init: +4)

I loved Coraline. Afternoon everyone! I'll be going out tonight, so I'm not sure if I'll be up to posting when I get in again.


VC - Sydney, Australia

Sort of tumbleweedy, but we are generally at 'action' stage as opposed to 'chat stage', which means people seem to post less awaiting their turns...

All good, nothing appears to have stopped :)

Also, does that post count include the ORIGINAL OOC channels? or just Campfire...?


Female Human Rogue-Knife Master/10 (Init: +4)

Shifty, I'm still trying to figure out what you were referring too when you wrote, "Hey did you ever get back to us on what happened about that old friend you were going to meet? Or was the lack of news a sign for us to 'move on'? "


VC - Sydney, Australia

bree:

Oooh on a side note, I will be off out field for a few days leaving Friday arvo. Spending a few days out in the woods leading a band of merry men around on wargames :P


Female Human Rogue-Knife Master/10 (Init: +4)

Ah, OK. No, we haven't set a definitive time for him to come down yet. It's one of those things that we'll probably keep talking about until we're old and gray but never get around to doing, lol. Trust me, if he does ever make it down I'll be elated and be sure to let you know ;)


Divine Gamemaster of the Abyss and below...

The post count does not even include any ooc threads (also not campfire) just purely the game threads).

Shifty and his merry men...all wearing leggings I suppose?


VC - Sydney, Australia
Zyren Zemerys wrote:
Shifty and his merry men...all wearing leggings I suppose?

Well sort of, if you count thermals!

But we are dressed in green and hang out springing ambushes in the wild.


Male Halforc Ranger 5

I disappeared for most of the day yesterday. There are lots and lots of peaceful protests going on in Israel at the moment so I decided I should go and see what all the fuss was about.


Divine Gamemaster of the Abyss and below...

I read about ...I think...youths don't get jobs/economical problems?


Male Halforc Ranger 5

Yeah, pretty much. It all adds up to taxes on everything being too high, cost of living is higher than the average wage, apartments are exorbitantly expensive and so all the protests. Apparently about 4% of the population of the country were protesting in Tel Aviv at one point.


Divine Gamemaster of the Abyss and below...

that would be like 4million for Germany :/

It seems like the protests have followed you from Britain to Isreal, but at least now they are peaceful.


VC - Sydney, Australia

Wow seems a lot of discontent about of late...!


Male Halforc Ranger 5

True, after all the student protests and then the riots in the UK I was mildly amazed that with so many people protesting in Israel there so far has not been a single reported bit of violence. That was until I went to a protest, which turned out to be more like some kind of big open air festival thing. Bands playing, random tents all over the place selling drinks, families with young children and everyone just seems to be enjoying themselves. There was lots of slogan chanting but no one seems angry at all, everyone just seems to be happy to be there.


VC - Sydney, Australia

That, in my view, is the only good form of protest. A little civil disobedience as well.

Burning, looting, and shooting - always the wrong answer.


Divine Gamemaster of the Abyss and below...

The gap between poor and rich gets bigger every day as it seems, worldwide...good I got my shadowrun books, then I will know what to do when the s#@~ hits the fan -_-


VC - Sydney, Australia

But I have to ask 'who cares'?

Why is it that people get hung up on what someone else has?

Will my life be ruined if I don't have a 50" plasma? if I drive an 'ok' car? That 'holidays' are a pretty basic affair? That my meals aren't all gourmet?

As long as you have enough to put a roof over your head, and meals on the table I reckon thats blessing enough - if there's more for extras then even better :)

There's so much free stuff out there, but people always seem to want 'stuff'.


I am inclined to agree with you,Shifty. I came up dirt poor and managed to become the only one in my family with a college degree paid for with my own money to boot. I have never once asked why didn't have the things that my friends had and have enjoyed those blessings I have recieved. The things that I have truly wanted,I went out and worked hard to get. Now the issues with poeple protesting high taxes or some sort of other governmental abuse is all fine, but those who feel you can't have a good life without a yacht and a Benz need to get their minds right.


VC - Sydney, Australia
Bilbo Bang-Bang wrote:
I am inclined to agree with you,Shifty. I came up dirt poor and managed to become the only one in my family with a college degree paid for with my own money to boot.

Same!

First one in the family with a tertiary education. Struck off on my own at age 16 with $100 in my pocket, an interstate bus ticket, a bag of clothes, and the world at my feet :p

I have nice things now, which I earned, and I have seen a lot of the world by taking advantage of good deals and opportunities - and accepting the knocks the come with "flexibility". There is an abundance of great stuff to go and see and do, and just about anything you need is available - you just need to tone down the whack expectations.


Divine Gamemaster of the Abyss and below...

I'm also the first in my family with a university degree and I'm also totally content with what I have, yet I think that uneducated people tend to believe the media regarding what one "has to own"...


Female Human Rogue-Knife Master/10 (Init: +4)

My grandparents on my father's side went to college and are what most would consider "Middle Class". My father attended college for awhile but did not complete it. My mother comes from the poorest of the poor, when she was a child, if she were to drop her plate of food on the floor she would either have to eat it off the floor or go without because there just wasn't anymore. She has an 8th grade education.

My older brother dropped out at 16 and got his GED. I graduated high school in '01 but didn't start college until '06. I now have 2 Associate Degrees, graduating Summa Cum Laude and am working on a Bachelors now. My youngest brother graduated high school but has not taken any college courses, instead opting for working himself to death while he supports his wife and two kids (a third is on the way). I use Federal Financial Aid to make my way through college, and I'm OK with that.

Goodnight everyone!


VC - Sydney, Australia
Bree Longfield wrote:
I use Federal Financial Aid to make my way through college

Good :)


Divine Gamemaster of the Abyss and below...

Besides our Robin Hood's headsup, I also have one: Birthday on Tuesday, so I'm not sure when I will be able to post...most probably when everyone is gone^^


VC - Sydney, Australia

Tuesday night I have a looooong night too, and then a morning shift after...


Male Orc Expert 5
Shifty wrote:

But I have to ask 'who cares'?

Why is it that people get hung up on what someone else has?

Will my life be ruined if I don't have a 50" plasma? if I drive an 'ok' car? That 'holidays' are a pretty basic affair? That my meals aren't all gourmet?

As long as you have enough to put a roof over your head, and meals on the table I reckon thats blessing enough - if there's more for extras then even better :)

There's so much free stuff out there, but people always seem to want 'stuff'.

There's quite a bit more to that. THe middle class in some countries are quite simply disappearing. More and more people are ending up below the poverty line while others end up with more money then they'll ever spend in their lifetimes. When you have this kind of disparity that's when revolutions, the bloody kind, occur.

And it's not as if people aren't working their asses off. A lot of it has to do with corporate corruption, changing business practices, and higher costs of living. Companies are failing but they have the power and influence to beg for bailouts. This, while the countries in question are up to their ears in debt. Their's quite frankly a lot to be unhappy about. The only miracle is that people in the U.S. haven't started rioting yet.


Divine Gamemaster of the Abyss and below...

Same here in Germany, a lot of jobs (postman, hairdresser, nurse, construction worker etc.) with a standard forty hour working week, can't support a normal family any more, that's what I meant when I said the gap between rich and poor has rached an alarming degree. People will fight/riot for their living when they are forced to :/


Divine Gamemaster of the Abyss and below...

On an unrelated matter:

@ HOLs: This time it really looks like we lost Zahur :/


Male Halforc Ranger 5

Yep, cost of living in Israel is now apparently higher than the average wage. Hence protests.


Divine Gamemaster of the Abyss and below...

Justified protests I think. During the heyday of industrial revolution in Germany there was a law stating that factory owners were not allowed to earn more than 3000% of the salary of their workers - good idea, yet I think, you would need a global government to realize such a thing, otherwise the companies just move...


huh, interesting that many of the folks here had to work their way up. we were solidly middle class until my mom divorced when i was a baby. then it was government housing and food if we could get it. i've got a couple degrees now and have had the opportunity for really solid jobs, but just can't take our society or consumer culture seriously. it just makes me sad honestly.

I think the reason so many people want all the STUFF (and debt) is that when you cut it to the core. we are just status seeking monkeys. look at me! look at me! see what i've got!

and I agree, the corporations are really running the show now. just look at the tax rates over the last 50 years and follow the money, as they say.

Honestly the economic crises don't worry me nearly as much as the ecological crisis though. we've been pretty clever monkeys so far- but Ma Nature bats last. I think we're just seeing the leading edge of drought and floods that are going to affect food supply and it's all fun and games until people get hungry.

**end of rant**


Divine Gamemaster of the Abyss and below...

Shifty:

Hey, I never thanked you for giving me the opportunity to take over Tom's game, I have to admit, it's my favorite PBP during the last weeks :)


M Chelish Fighter
Zyren Zemerys wrote:

On an unrelated matter:

@ HOLs: This time it really looks like we lost Zahur :/

Za-who? hmmm, looked at his last post and he mentioned his wife was away for a couple months. If they had kids that might be the reason we won't be hearing anything. (or else he's moved in with the opera star.)

i'd forgotten, but both Basili and Zahur kind of evaporated. Good thing Harl and Johenric stepped up. I think we're fine.


Divine Gamemaster of the Abyss and below...

Off for today, see you tomorrow!


Female Human Rogue-Knife Master/10 (Init: +4)

Afternoon everyone :)

@voodoo chilli I think a part of the reason why we are obsessed with consumerism is that we all feel something missing but are either consciously unaware of it or simply unsure of what it is and so are constantly seeking out something to fill it with. The problem is, trying to fill this hole with anything tangible is like trying to force a square peg into a circle hole... and as we all learned as little ones, that just doesn't work.

My personal philosophy is that this is a global phenomenon to be found in all "prospering" countries because, it seems to me, that the further we get away from living as the animals that we are in a natural environment filled with the natural pursuit of our basic necessities and heeding the call of our natural instincts (as opposed to ignoring them as we are taught in modern societies) the more depressed we get. The more empty our lives feel, the more we feel inclined to chase after that next "thing" that is being sold to us by the media or by our own covetous desires. Yet when we get that "thing" we realize that it isn't the "thing" that we need, the "thing" that is going to make that "something is missing" feeling go away, so we go searching for the next square peg never seeing the circle hole.


Venture Captain since December 2014

Zahur has been gone for a long time before, maybe he will come back again.


Hey DMZ. Garabbott forgot to tell he was gone for the weekend. I believe he'll be posting tomorrow. He apologizes.

And, sweet, leveled. HD 1d8 ⇒ 4

DMZ:
Think I could use Faiths of Purity to eventually get Bestow Hope?


Divine Gamemaster of the Abyss and below...

@ Jink, Sure, no problem!


VC - Sydney, Australia

Epic long Winter post...


Male Pale Master

epic but awesome shifty.

ive never seen a cleric played so well.


VC - Sydney, Australia

Cheers :P


M Human Fighter 5 AC: 20 (22 2-wield) Touch: 13 (15 2-wield) FF 17 HP 24/50 Init: +4
Double Dagger Attack Routine:
[dice=Attack]d20+10[/dice] [dice=Damage]d4+8[/dice] [dice=Attack]d20+10[/dice] [dice=Damage]d4+7[/dice]

On the disparity of wealth: I'm not sure how much folks would *care* if "you have a yacht and I don't" if money didn't also buy influence and power.

Sure, any schmo without two nickles to rub together still gets one vote come voting day . . . but the rich guys can buy a few senators and get ALL the votes ALL the time. (I'm oversimplifying, but the point is still valid)

When money and influence can get someone like George W Bush in the White House, there's a problem.

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