Did I miss an episode? I didn't think there was one on this past weekend.
Only in the UK, don't know why Space did not follow the same schedule.
Did I miss an episode? I didn't think there was one on this past weekend.Only in the UK, don't know why Space did not follow the same schedule.
Got it. Thanks, CM.
I beleive that a new episode aired in the UK, but not in the States. Because of the Memorial Day holiday weekend, BBCA 'treated' us to a Dr Who marathon (i.e. reruns).
Ahh, hadn't realised that when I posted the spoiler!
You are in for a treat though, I will say that. Very good stuff.
No biggie. I'm just relieved that I didn't miss an episode.
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So I really like Amy, and like how this season has put a big focus on Amy and Rory ... but why oh why do we get that Amy-centric opening credit? It’s kind of annoying.
It almost seems like a set up for this past week's episode.
The little bit with Amy in the opening credits is annoying as Hell, and I can't imagine any Brits would either want OR need it.
Seems like a ploy to make the show more accessible to Americans, which means it comes across as crass and stupid. :)
We get the Pond Monologue at the beginning of the show in Australia as well.
It is very odd as Dr Who has been on Australian TV since William Hartnell.
Mrs 8th Dwarf asked why we need it... I suggested that it is for the newish audience in the US, as a way of giving people unfamiliar with the show a reference point.
I don't think it was meant to be crass and stupid. :-)
I can't imagine any Brits would either want OR need it.You underestimate just how much some of us Brits enjoy listening to, and looking at Miss Pond, Mr Mona ;P
Or maybe it's just me.....
No its not just you some of us here on Turtle Island as well :)
However as the Eccleston era onward(and a good many arcs from before)are all on Netflix so if you are a newcomer in America its not that hard to get caught up.
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I can't imagine any Brits would either want OR need it.You underestimate just how much some of us Brits enjoy listening to, and looking at Miss Pond, Mr Mona ;P
Or maybe it's just me.....
No its not just you some of us here on Turtle Island as well :)
However as the Eccleston era onward(and a good many arcs from before)are all on Netflix so if you are a newcomer in America its not that hard to get caught up.
Most of Classic Who is on Netflix as well. There are a few that haven't been released on DVD yet, I believe, and quite a few from Doctors 1-3 that no longer exist since the BBC trashed them.
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Because believe it or not... she's the center of the show this time, not the Doctor.
Less so than with Rose Tyler: Defender of the Earth (and that Doctor Guy who gives her a lift is there too).
NuWho has put a lot more emphasis on the companions being important. As mentioned, RTD had his first ever female-related hardon for Rose Tyler, Martha saved the world by getting everyone on Earth to telepathically turn Dobby the House Elf into JesusDoctor, and Donna saved the multiverse from the Daleks. I'm just glad that Moffatt is allowing the Doctor to do something, because RTD used him to give the companions a ride to the deux ex machina button that stopped the villain's plans.
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In their defense... didn't some of this change come with the hour long format? I can think of three serials with Ace (Curse of Fenric, Ghost Light, and Survival) that Ace was pretty much the MacGuffin.
Curse of Fenric, it's resolving her purpose since Dragonfire, and reconciling her with her mother.
Ghost Light, it's dealing with the house she burnt down, and why.
Survival, the entire reason they're there is because it's her home town. And she gets infected.
Because believe it or not... she's the center of the show this time, not the Doctor.Less so than with Rose Tyler: Defender of the Earth (and that Doctor Guy who gives her a lift is there too).
NuWho has put a lot more emphasis on the companions being important. As mentioned, RTD had his first ever female-related hardon for Rose Tyler, Martha saved the world by getting everyone on Earth to telepathically turn Dobby the House Elf into JesusDoctor, and Donna saved the multiverse from the Daleks. I'm just glad that Moffatt is allowing the Doctor to do something, because RTD used him to give the companions a ride to the deux ex machina button that stopped the villain's plans.
A bit harsh. Deux ex machina means the situation resolves without any input from a protagonist, of which the companion, a major character throughout Doctor Who, is one. Take the Doctor and companion out of any of the series finale and it's Bad Guy wins.
I'm a bit perplexed over the RTD-era put downs really...
Cheers
Mark
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Most of Classic Who is on Netflix as well. There are a few that haven't been released on DVD yet, I believe, and quite a few from Doctors 1-3 that no longer exist since the BBC trashed them.
All of the third Doctor episodes survive, though some of them survive only in black-and-white. (A method has been devised to recover the original color signal from most of those, leaving possibly only one Pertwee episode—Mind of Evil 1—needing to be colorized without an original color reference.)
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The little bit with Amy in the opening credits is annoying as Hell, and I can't imagine any Brits would either want OR need it.
Seems like a ploy to make the show more accessible to Americans, which means it comes across as crass and stupid. :)
We get the Pond Monologue at the beginning of the show in Australia as well.
It is very odd as Dr Who has been on Australian TV since William Hartnell.
Mrs 8th Dwarf asked why we need it... I suggested that it is for the newish audience in the US, as a way of giving people unfamiliar with the show a reference point.
I don't think it was meant to be crass and stupid. :-)
Yes, I think having the focus on a human protagonist who’s motives and actions people can understand and identify with (not always the case with the Doctor) – and it helps that she’s pretty – is meant to make the show more accessible to a wider audience.
I don’t think the intro every episode is required for that however; focusing on Amy (or another human companion) in-show serves the same end without making it seem like it is aimed at people who are ‘crass and stupid’.
I believe there is a perception in certain circles that to properly understand or appreciate Dr Who you need to have watched old Who, or at least all the previous seasons of new Who ... this intro is probably a way of saying ‘here is all you need to know to understand this season’. It may serve that purpose, my objection to it is that assumes the audience has never seen Dr Who before and seems to be aiming at a younger or stupider audience. And it is annoying (despite the loveliness of Amy).
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So I really like Amy, and like how this season has put a big focus on Amy and Rory ... but why oh why do we get that Amy-centric opening credit? It’s kind of annoying.Because believe it or not... she's the center of the show this time, not the Doctor.
I disagree; this is still ‘Dr Who’, not ‘The Amy Show’. Amy is without doubt a hugely central and pivotal character in this season (and last) ... but not necessarily more so than past companions as others have pointed out.
Amy’s significance should not be overplayed, but nor should it be exaggerated. This is still the ongoing story of an eccentric time travelling alien and the various humans who tag along with him over the years (and who sometimes profoundly affect him or the universe at large). Even with Amy’s importance, the Doctor is still the central character of the piece, he is still the man with the answers and who saves the day (or sets things up so that someone else can save the day), and we typically still see the story more from his point of view than from any of the companions’.
But you’re entitled to your opinion. ;-)
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So I really like Amy, and like how this season has put a big focus on Amy and Rory ... but why oh why do we get that Amy-centric opening credit? It’s kind of annoying.Because believe it or not... she's the center of the show this time, not the Doctor.I disagree; this is still ‘Dr Who’, not ‘The Amy Show’. Amy is without doubt a hugely central and pivotal character in this season (and last) ... but not necessarily more so than past companions as others have pointed out.
Amy’s significance should not be overplayed, but nor should it be exaggerated. This is still the ongoing story of an eccentric time travelling alien and the various humans who tag along with him over the years (and who sometimes profoundly affect him or the universe at large). Even with Amy’s importance, the Doctor is still the central character of the piece, he is still the man with the answers and who saves the day (or sets things up so that someone else can save the day), and we typically still see the story more from his point of view than from any of the companions’.
But you’re entitled to your opinion. ;-)
If you noticed all the adds and features for this new series.... assumes you have never watched the show before, and in America at least, are ignorant of it.
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Most of Classic Who is on Netflix as well. There are a few that haven't been released on DVD yet, I believe, and quite a few from Doctors 1-3 that no longer exist since the BBC trashed them.All of the third Doctor episodes survive, though some of them survive only in black-and-white. (A method has been devised to recover the original color signal from most of those, leaving possibly only one Pertwee episode—Mind of Evil 1—needing to be colorized without an original color reference.)
I had not heard that. Any idea on what the plans are for the missing 1st Dr's adventures?
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I had not heard that. Any idea on what the plans are for the missing 1st Dr's adventures?Most of Classic Who is on Netflix as well. There are a few that haven't been released on DVD yet, I believe, and quite a few from Doctors 1-3 that no longer exist since the BBC trashed them.All of the third Doctor episodes survive, though some of them survive only in black-and-white. (A method has been devised to recover the original color signal from most of those, leaving possibly only one Pertwee episode—Mind of Evil 1—needing to be colorized without an original color reference.)
I don't know that there are any plans for them. Of the missing episodes, the only serial that's really been reconstructed in any form is The Invasion. As the audio existed for all episodes, the video for the missing episodes (episodes one and four) was replaced with animation.
So I really like Amy, and like how this season has put a big focus on Amy and Rory ... but why oh why do we get that Amy-centric opening credit? It’s kind of annoying.Because believe it or not... she's the center of the show this time, not the Doctor.I disagree; this is still ‘Dr Who’, not ‘The Amy Show’. Amy is without doubt a hugely central and pivotal character in this season (and last) ... but not necessarily more so than past companions as others have pointed out.
Amy’s significance should not be overplayed, but nor should it be exaggerated. This is still the ongoing story of an eccentric time travelling alien and the various humans who tag along with him over the years (and who sometimes profoundly affect him or the universe at large). Even with Amy’s importance, the Doctor is still the central character of the piece, he is still the man with the answers and who saves the day (or sets things up so that someone else can save the day), and we typically still see the story more from his point of view than from any of the companions’.
But you’re entitled to your opinion. ;-)
Also from Io9
"It's looking decently likely that episode 13 will see the departure of Amy and Rory, as both Karen Gillan and Arthur Darvill have obliquely hinted that they have finished their tenure on Doctor Who. Here are the relevant quotes:
Gillan: "I am playing Jean Shrimpton in a BBC4 drama We'll Take Manhattan but I have just literally gone from Doctor Who to that so I haven't had a chance to sit and have a think. I actually would really like to go home to Scotland for a little while and reflect on what has happened and then decide what my next move is, but I don't know what that is yet."
Darvill: "Getting a part like Rory was great, but now,coming out of it, I need to go and do something completely different."
Admittedly, Karen Gillan's comment can be read a couple different ways, but the most likely interpretation when you consider both comments together (not to mention Arthur Darvill's upcoming theater commitments, which would overlap with the filming of series seven) is that the Ponds are leaving the TARDIS at the end of the series."
Well the River Song arc would be hard to top so their characters have probably run their course, though we'll see them again I'm sure (in Matt Smith's big send off adventure). It'll probably mean farewell to Alex Kingston/River Song as well.....
Cheers
Mark
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River's Yet is pretty much set. Her story ends with her beginning.I hope not. I would love to see River and the Doctor travelling in the same time period for a while. We've seen her death and her birth, but there is so much in the middle that is keft to be seen.It'll probably mean farewell to Alex Kingston/River Song as well.....
Cheers
Mark
River is the perfect companion, she can be removed at any time only to be brought back later if they want to.
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I had not heard that. Any idea on what the plans are for the missing 1st Dr's adventures?Most of Classic Who is on Netflix as well. There are a few that haven't been released on DVD yet, I believe, and quite a few from Doctors 1-3 that no longer exist since the BBC trashed them.All of the third Doctor episodes survive, though some of them survive only in black-and-white. (A method has been devised to recover the original color signal from most of those, leaving possibly only one Pertwee episode—Mind of Evil 1—needing to be colorized without an original color reference.)
As far as official releases are concerned, the Hartnell and Troughton stories with missing episodes fall into three categories:
- Stories for which no episodes exist:
- Marco Polo
- Galaxy 4
- Mission to the Unknown
- The Myth Makers
- The Massacre
- The Savages
- The Smugglers
- The Power of the Daleks
- The Highlanders
- The Macra Terror
- Fury from the Deep
- Stories for which no more than half of the episodes still remain. The surviving episodes have all been released on the "Lost in Time" DVDs:
- The Crusade
- The Daleks' Master Plan
- The Celestial Toymaker
- The Underwater Menace
- The Moonbase
- The Faceless Ones
- The Evil of the Daleks
- The Abominable Snowmen
- The Enemy of the World
- The Web of Fear
- The Wheel in Space
- The Space Pirates
- Stories for which more than half of the episodes still remain. "The Invasion" has been released, and "The Reign of Terror" will be released next year, both with animation paired up to the surviving soundtracks for the missing episodes. I hope that the same treatment will be applied to the other two stories in this boat:
- The Tenth Planet
- The Ice Warriors
Soundtracks of all of the missing episodes exist, and audio releases have been made with narration inserted to explain anything that you'd miss without the visuals (usually narrated by one of the actors who originally played a companion in the story).
Fans have also made their own reconstructions of all the missing episodes, with varying degrees of success.
I had not heard that. Any idea on what the plans are for the missing 1st Dr's adventures?Most of Classic Who is on Netflix as well. There are a few that haven't been released on DVD yet, I believe, and quite a few from Doctors 1-3 that no longer exist since the BBC trashed them.All of the third Doctor episodes survive, though some of them survive only in black-and-white. (A method has been devised to recover the original color signal from most of those, leaving possibly only one Pertwee episode—Mind of Evil 1—needing to be colorized without an original color reference.)
Reign of Terror was just announced as getting the animated treatment to be released in 2012. Everyone needs to buy the DVD to convince them it is financially viable to do more.
I am surprised they didn't pick the Tenth Planet, but they may have decided doing another Cyberman episode might not be enough variety. Crusades is I believe the only other 1st Doctor story that is missing only 2 episodes. Sadly it may be a long time before they get to long missing epics like Power of the Daleks or the Dalek Master Plan.
I do have hope that someday I'll be able to watch all the stories during my lifetime.
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Amy is different a companion so intriguing that the doctor was essentially going to haul off with a child when he first met her. (Remember when he first meets her she's half the age of Adric!) If it was ANYONE else even thinking about such, you'd be wanting to clock him with a ball paddle.
I agree with you there!
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I'm surprised that no one's posted about last episode "The God Complex". I thought it was quite good, but was annoyed that they didn't show the viewer what the Doctor saw in his room. Does anyone have any guesses as to what he saw?
I also quite liked the epilogue as a consequence of the episode, and a transition to the last two episodes of the season.
I'm surprised that no one's posted about last episode "The God Complex". I thought it was quite good, but was annoyed that they didn't show the viewer what the Doctor saw in his room. Does anyone have any guesses as to what he saw?
** spoiler omitted **
I also quite liked the epilogue as a consequence of the episode, and a transition to the last two episodes of the season.
THe writer wouldn't want to straight-jacket future writers of the show, and it's much more interesting for us to speculate than to complain about the choice!
Anyway, the Doctor may regret Adric's death but he doesn't fear him. The Doctor has seen many people die around him - they're not a source of fear that challanges what drives him on.
It's probably an easy answer but he saw himself, maybe the Dream Lord, maybe the Valeyard, maybe an unfamiliar man wearing his clothes, but most likely himself as he is now....
Cheers
Mark
The Valeyard would be a good one,what he might become.Rassilon is another possibility
Why am I thinking that it's the missing years of the doctors life that we haven't seen that are going to come into play here (which I presume occured between the time he dropped off Amy and Rory and his appearance at the beginning of this episode)..that would go a long way towards explaining his wistfulness at seeing the Williams in the store as it's been two centuries for him since he saw them last.
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Why am I thinking that it's the missing years of the doctors life that we haven't seen that are going to come into play here (which I presume occured between the time he dropped off Amy and Rory and his appearance at the beginning of this episode)..that would go a long way towards explaining his wistfulness at seeing the Williams in the store as it's been two centuries for him since he saw them last.
I get the feeling this weeks episode is going to be damned confusing, and upset a lot of people....
It does explain why River couldn't kill the impossible astronaut. Also explains why it was impossible in the first place ;)
Why am I thinking that it's the missing years of the doctors life that we haven't seen that are going to come into play here (which I presume occured between the time he dropped off Amy and Rory and his appearance at the beginning of this episode)..that would go a long way towards explaining his wistfulness at seeing the Williams in the store as it's been two centuries for him since he saw them last.
Not Williams, Pond.
Why am I thinking that it's the missing years of the doctors life that we haven't seen that are going to come into play here (which I presume occured between the time he dropped off Amy and Rory and his appearance at the beginning of this episode)..that would go a long way towards explaining his wistfulness at seeing the Williams in the store as it's been two centuries for him since he saw them last.I get the feeling this weeks episode is going to be damned confusing, and upset a lot of people....
It does explain why River couldn't kill the impossible astronaut. Also explains why it was impossible in the first place ;)
They are all going to show up at Lake Silencio and some weird stuff is going to happen that is going to break the timeline - as hinted at in The Girl Who Waited. The blurb on Wikipedia doesn't make it any less confusing, though the title is interesting - The Wedding of River Song.
Why am I thinking that it's the missing years of the doctors life that we haven't seen that are going to come into play here (which I presume occured between the time he dropped off Amy and Rory and his appearance at the beginning of this episode)..that would go a long way towards explaining his wistfulness at seeing the Williams in the store as it's been two centuries for him since he saw them last.Not Williams, Pond.
Actually he made a distinct point in adressing Amy as Mrs Williams at the end of "The Girl Who Waited"