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prepares for a busy day


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Radwraiths. Just to mix the old fears of atomic age with older fears of ghosts and ghouls...


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Scintillae wrote:
Complete sentences, children! Complete! Sentences!

No.

Quote:
Astoundingly, this practice is not lethal!

Most dead people were using complete sentences... Just saying.


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Snagging that for our pnp setting. There's a mountain where some crazy elves made a magic nuke to kill a dragon in Rome past. This is too perfect not to use.

EDIT: I meant eons past, but that particular subrace does have an ancient Rome theme to their culture so maybe you're not all wrong, autocorrect....


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No! Don't give in to the mad ramblings of the autocorrect! If you let it, it will devour everything!


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Note this things is potentially very lethal monster. It can kill a character in two rounds regardless of damage.

Spoiler:
Five failed Fortitude saves move from Healthy to Dead, and the first failed gives –2 penalty to Fortitude saves... One save is forced each turn just by being within its aura, and it can deliver up to two attacks forcing two more saves each turn). The saving throw DC is assuming presence of regular Starfinder armor with its +4 bonus to saves against radiation.

It also deals 5 points of damage each time a Fortitude save throw is made, regardless of the success, so it can inflict 15 points of damage on one melee opponent per turn, and 5 on others within range of teh aura.


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Tomorrow will be fun.

"Why did you take points off? I got it right!"
"Remember when I said I'd take off points if you didn't use complete sentences? And see where the directions say use complete sentences?"
blank stares


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Scintillae wrote:

Tomorrow will be fun.

"Why did you take points off? I got it right!"
"Remember when I said I'd take off points if you didn't use complete sentences? And see where the directions say use complete sentences?"
blank stares

At UC Davis we had a common calculus final, meaning we had 1200-1500 exams to grade in under 48 hours. So each grad student was assigned ONE problem to grade. To stave off the insanity, we'd post the most creative or "interesting" solutions to the whiteboard.

My all-time favorite was titled simply, "Why we make students show their work."

It was a bit of amazement, where every single step showed some fundamental lack of understanding of any sort of mathematics: Moving things into and out of integrals, and even into and out of functions. Integrating the wrong things in the wrong order. Bizarre cancellations.

And at the end of it all, after not a single correct step, the student, through sheer, unadulterated coincidence, ended up with the right answer.

A grader just checking for answers would have given the student full credit.

It was truly amazeballs.

One of my favorite ways to explain how NOT to cancel to students:

(cos x/sec x) = (cos/sec) (cancel the x's)
= (o/e) (cancel the s's and c's)
= 0


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I understood some of those words! 8D


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I'm either unfortunate or fortunate (down to personal choice in the end) that it's harder for me to have out-and-out wrong answers in English (and to some extent my social studies classes - I do a lot of higher-order justify-your-opinion stuff with them). So unless they've demonstrated a clear breakdown of fundamental fact, I give them credit for use of evidence-based opinion arguments.


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My younger kiddos asked me about that today - last question was "which of these events do you consider the most historically important and why?" Only way they could get that wrong was if they didn't bother explaining at all or, say, they started talking about how it was important we'd bought Louisiana from Portugal. Liiiiittle bit off.


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...scheming children tried to distract me from the test with asking about D&D. It didn't work, needless to say.


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I keep telling them I'm not that long out of high school. It's like they think I never pulled that on my teachers. >_>


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Scintillae wrote:
I'm either unfortunate or fortunate (down to personal choice in the end) that it's harder for me to have out-and-out wrong answers in English (and to some extent my social studies classes - I do a lot of higher-order justify-your-opinion stuff with them). So unless they've demonstrated a clear breakdown of fundamental fact, I give them credit for use of evidence-based opinion arguments.

I really appreciate that you do that.

What I always despised about my English classes (comparative literature in particular) was the sheer number of teachers who would cheerfully proclaim, "Go ahead and write about either viewpoint, but be sure to support it with facts and examples!"

And then you'd choose the viewpoint opposed to your teacher's and couldn't get higher than a C. (We were a class. We compared notes. The same students could go from an A to a C just by switching sides.)

My favorite example: After three straight C papers (I'm ornery -- I always figured out my teacher's viewpoint and argued the opposite to try to force her to change her grading), the fourth paper could be another analysis, or just "a story about your life".

I wrote the story, got an A, and, "I can't believe how much your writing has improved!"

When no, it was just, "I am not arguing against your predispositions this time."

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Scintillae wrote:
My younger kiddos asked me about that today - last question was "which of these events do you consider the most historically important and why?" Only way they could get that wrong was if they didn't bother explaining at all or, say, they started talking about how it was important we'd bought Louisiana from Portugal. Liiiiittle bit off.

Beautiful example. I had more than one teacher (all at the college level), where the teacher had a single answer in mind, and if you chose a different answer you couldn't possibly get above a B or a C.

EDIT 2: Bitter? Me? 30 years later? Nah, couldn't possibly be...


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NobodysHome wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
I'm either unfortunate or fortunate (down to personal choice in the end) that it's harder for me to have out-and-out wrong answers in English (and to some extent my social studies classes - I do a lot of higher-order justify-your-opinion stuff with them). So unless they've demonstrated a clear breakdown of fundamental fact, I give them credit for use of evidence-based opinion arguments.

I really appreciate that you do that.

What I always despised about my English classes (comparative literature in particular) was the sheer number of teachers who would cheerfully proclaim, "Go ahead and write about either viewpoint, but be sure to support it with facts and examples!"

And then you'd choose the viewpoint opposed to your teacher's and couldn't get higher than a C. (We were a class. We compared notes. The same students could go from an A to a C just by switching sides.)

Yeah, this always drove me up a tree, too. I don't wanna be that teacher.

It doesn't really help matters that I am "The Worst" English teacher in terms of actual preparation for it. I know my stuff, but I majored in social studies education, adding English when I wasn't getting interviews because I don't coach football. So I tend to approach everything from a really weird perspective. I think it weirds the kids out sometimes.


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Scintillae wrote:
It doesn't really help matters that I am "The Worst" English teacher in terms of actual preparation for it. I know my stuff, but I majored in social studies education, adding English when I wasn't getting interviews because I don't coach football. So I tend to approach everything from a really weird perspective. I think it weirds the kids out sometimes.

"Different" is very frequently "better".


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...less so now that I'm not teaching sophomores. I got really bad on background lessons for Julius Caesar and Frankenstein.


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Scintillae wrote:
My younger kiddos asked me about that today - last question was "which of these events do you consider the most historically important and why?" Only way they could get that wrong was if they didn't bother explaining at all or, say, they started talking about how it was important we'd bought Louisiana from Portugal. Liiiiittle bit off.

Yes, I'm sure that Napoleon would be pleased to discover that he was the Emperor of Portugal, and that he was in the wrong country all the while. :D


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NobodysHome wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
It doesn't really help matters that I am "The Worst" English teacher in terms of actual preparation for it. I know my stuff, but I majored in social studies education, adding English when I wasn't getting interviews because I don't coach football. So I tend to approach everything from a really weird perspective. I think it weirds the kids out sometimes.
"Different" is very frequently "better".

Not if a former student comes in asking for help with a poetry assignment.

"...yeeeeeeeees, I totally know how to write an Anglo-Saxon poem. Google? Nooooo I'm not Googling anything pffff oh hey your teacher who assigned this is back let's talk to her!"


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John Napier 698 wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
My younger kiddos asked me about that today - last question was "which of these events do you consider the most historically important and why?" Only way they could get that wrong was if they didn't bother explaining at all or, say, they started talking about how it was important we'd bought Louisiana from Portugal. Liiiiittle bit off.
Yes, I'm sure that Napoleon would be pleased to discover that he was the Emperor of Portugal, and that he was in the wrong country all the while. :D

"You see, I have conquered France without lifting a finger! Onward to Spain!"


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But yeah. I mean...the standards we're meant to address are pretty straightforward.

Can locate and explain theme/central idea, support with evidence.
Can create argument, support with evidence.
Can create instructive writing.
Can create narrative writing.
Can punctuate and grammarify.
Can assess a situation and adapt language appropriately.

Nothing in there about agreeing with me.


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Besides. Indoctrinating the children breeds competition for world domination. Encouraging them to speak their minds identifies the dissidents early.


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Hey! My Grumpy Old Man Tirade™ got deleted!

Ah, well, probably means I should actually get back to work.

Grrr.... pesky Paizo... making me do my job!


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Honestly, the things that hurt my kids' writing the most are comma abuse and insufficient evidence.

Yes, I read the thing. I know the characters you're talking about, but you have to pretend your reader is a moron who will beat you up if they find out you're treating them like an idiot. Civil tone, but spell everything out. And stop your flippin' comma splices!


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NobodysHome wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
I'm either unfortunate or fortunate (down to personal choice in the end) that it's harder for me to have out-and-out wrong answers in English (and to some extent my social studies classes - I do a lot of higher-order justify-your-opinion stuff with them). So unless they've demonstrated a clear breakdown of fundamental fact, I give them credit for use of evidence-based opinion arguments.

I really appreciate that you do that.

What I always despised about my English classes (comparative literature in particular) was the sheer number of teachers who would cheerfully proclaim, "Go ahead and write about either viewpoint, but be sure to support it with facts and examples!"

And then you'd choose the viewpoint opposed to your teacher's and couldn't get higher than a C. (We were a class. We compared notes. The same students could go from an A to a C just by switching sides.)

My favorite example: After three straight C papers (I'm ornery -- I always figured out my teacher's viewpoint and argued the opposite to try to force her to change her grading), the fourth paper could be another analysis, or just "a story about your life".

I wrote the story, got an A, and, "I can't believe how much your writing has improved!"

When no, it was just, "I am not arguing against your predispositions this time."

EDIT:

Scintillae wrote:
My younger kiddos asked me about that today - last question was "which of these events do you consider the most historically important and why?" Only way they could get that wrong was if they didn't bother explaining at all or, say, they started talking about how it was important we'd bought Louisiana from Portugal. Liiiiittle bit off.

Beautiful example. I had more than one teacher (all at the college level), where the teacher had a single answer in mind, and if you chose a different answer you couldn't possibly get above a B or a C.

EDIT 2: Bitter? Me? 30 years later? Nah, couldn't possibly be...

Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh. Yes. Been there, done that, no thank you never again.


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lisamarlene wrote:

WTF.

I just got emails from JoAnn fabrics AND Michael's crafts about Christmas sales.
Halloween isn't even OVER yet. Lights are still on in my neighborhood.
And I've got fresh emails in my inbox about artificial Christmas tree sales.
Someone needs to die slowly, bound to a Yule Log, and roasted.
Sprinkled liberally with pumpkin spice.
While being violated by a yule goat.

Craft stores get an automatic pass on this stuff though. S!!+ takes time to put together. I've been working on Christmas stuff since September. I got a late start. I'll also have a crap-ton of last minute projects to do. (Jo-Ann has their best sale the week of Thanksgiving, FYI. And if you need an artificial tree, Michael's is the best, but buy it really, really early. Like as soon as the 50% off sale starts. They go fast.)

It's the same with all the holidays. Craft stores have to be at least three months ahead of the game when it comes to seasonal merchandise. It's not at all the same as normal stores where you buy premade things instead of the makings of things. Things take time to make.


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Orthos wrote:
Orthos wrote:

So the list thus far for FAWTL Fantasy:

Heroes:
Tacs - Blue Mage or Paladin
Freehold - Thief Treasure Hunter
CH - healer
Nobody - Mimic

NPCs
Limey - specifics undecided
Vanykyre - dragon with an agenda

Villains:
Scint - Lady of Sinister Light
Orthos - immortal recurring henchman
Sharoth - greedy dragon
Syrus - master assassinGran Rey - owlbear rancher

Undecided:
Cap - not a "redemption equals death" guy

Can I be an NPC too? One that occasionally shows up at random to dispense healing and sarcasm? Mostly sarcasm.


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NobodysHome wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
I'm either unfortunate or fortunate (down to personal choice in the end) that it's harder for me to have out-and-out wrong answers in English (and to some extent my social studies classes - I do a lot of higher-order justify-your-opinion stuff with them). So unless they've demonstrated a clear breakdown of fundamental fact, I give them credit for use of evidence-based opinion arguments.

I really appreciate that you do that.

What I always despised about my English classes (comparative literature in particular) was the sheer number of teachers who would cheerfully proclaim, "Go ahead and write about either viewpoint, but be sure to support it with facts and examples!"

And then you'd choose the viewpoint opposed to your teacher's and couldn't get higher than a C. (We were a class. We compared notes. The same students could go from an A to a C just by switching sides.)

My favorite example: After three straight C papers (I'm ornery -- I always figured out my teacher's viewpoint and argued the opposite to try to force her to change her grading), the fourth paper could be another analysis, or just "a story about your life".

I wrote the story, got an A, and, "I can't believe how much your writing has improved!"

When no, it was just, "I am not arguing against your predispositions this time."

EDIT:

Scintillae wrote:
My younger kiddos asked me about that today - last question was "which of these events do you consider the most historically important and why?" Only way they could get that wrong was if they didn't bother explaining at all or, say, they started talking about how it was important we'd bought Louisiana from Portugal. Liiiiittle bit off.

Beautiful example. I had more than one teacher (all at the college level), where the teacher had a single answer in mind, and if you chose a different answer you couldn't possibly get above a B or a C.

EDIT 2: Bitter? Me? 30 years later? Nah, couldn't possibly be...

Well, there's the difference between you and me. :)

I always developed a profile of my teachers within the first week and answered all questions on papers and tests based on what they wanted to hear. Got great grades. I learned when I was 8 that there's no point trying to convince adults of anything. You just have to learn how to tell them what they want to hear and then they leave you alone. (My poor incompetent psychologist was trying to teach me social skills. She was woefully unprepared for coping with very smart children. On the other hand, it was an important life lesson, if not the one she was trying to teach.)


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I am totally procrastinating right now. I only have five hundred words. The words, they do not flow. Like at all. I don't know how I'm going to get 1500 more words today. >.<
It's not helping that I have already come down with the nasty November cold/flu that I always get. It usually hits me in the second week. It's beyond rough trying to muddle through day one of NaNo when I can barely sit up. :/


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I had to spruce up the place so the maintenance guy could fix the furnace (which decided to stop working yesterday) luckily it was all relatively painless.


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I'm stealthily trying to take a short nap while the General gets dinner ready, so of course now is when the dog gives himself a peticure right next to me.

He just spent twenty minutes loudly cleaning his balls, and now he's trimming his nails and spitting them out next to my leg.

And of course if you say anything he sighs, looks guilty, waits until you close your eyes then resumes his grooming.


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Bryce and I dressed up for Halloween


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Scintillae wrote:
I keep telling them I'm not that long out of high school. It's like they think I never pulled that on my teachers. >_>

I had a high school history teacher we used to derail for entire class periods with "I don't know why Marilyn Monroe was such a big deal..." And she would be off to the races, extolling Norma Gene's virtues and fame.

It helped we had her during her first year teaching.


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I got a new feather mattress topper and a feather duvet and a feather pillow for my bed. (I had to replace the blanket and pillow because stuff happened....wash cycles went horribly wrong kind of thing, and I'm trying to put off getting a new mattress too, so, anyhow) and it is glorious.

Of course now I have to fight the urge to crawl into bed and sleep for a week, which is extra tempting when it's so very, very fluffy!


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NobodysHome wrote:
Beautiful example. I had more than one teacher (all at the college level), where the teacher had a single answer in mind, and if you chose a different answer you couldn't possibly get above a B or a C.

I'm not sure which is worse, this or the sort of teacher who's seen every position and argument under the sun, and the more familiar the paper to him or her, the lower your grade no matter how good it is.


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Yeah, for me it was a religion professor.


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Scintillae wrote:
My younger kiddos asked me about that today - last question was "which of these events do you consider the most historically important and why?" Only way they could get that wrong was if they didn't bother explaining at all or, say, they started talking about how it was important we'd bought Louisiana from Portugal. Liiiiittle bit off.

Well, in my latest game of Europa Universalis IV, Portugal did have some of Louisiana, so they are not completely off. ~rereads~ OH!!! You mean in the REAL world!


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Dang it, desk kitty! You're helping me procrastinate too well! And stop chewing on the word count velociraptor!


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Scintillae wrote:

Tomorrow will be fun.

"Why did you take points off? I got it right!"
"Remember when I said I'd take off points if you didn't use complete sentences? And see where the directions say use complete sentences?"
blank stares

You are teaching english(I think), which I love.

But you are using the techinques of the math teachers, which I hate.

Conflicted Freehold is conflicted.


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NobodysHome wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
I'm either unfortunate or fortunate (down to personal choice in the end) that it's harder for me to have out-and-out wrong answers in English (and to some extent my social studies classes - I do a lot of higher-order justify-your-opinion stuff with them). So unless they've demonstrated a clear breakdown of fundamental fact, I give them credit for use of evidence-based opinion arguments.

I really appreciate that you do that.

What I always despised about my English classes (comparative literature in particular) was the sheer number of teachers who would cheerfully proclaim, "Go ahead and write about either viewpoint, but be sure to support it with facts and examples!"

And then you'd choose the viewpoint opposed to your teacher's and couldn't get higher than a C. (We were a class. We compared notes. The same students could go from an A to a C just by switching sides.)

My favorite example: After three straight C papers (I'm ornery -- I always figured out my teacher's viewpoint and argued the opposite to try to force her to change her grading), the fourth paper could be another analysis, or just "a story about your life".

I wrote the story, got an A, and, "I can't believe how much your writing has improved!"

When no, it was just, "I am not arguing against your predispositions this time."

EDIT:

Scintillae wrote:
My younger kiddos asked me about that today - last question was "which of these events do you consider the most historically important and why?" Only way they could get that wrong was if they didn't bother explaining at all or, say, they started talking about how it was important we'd bought Louisiana from Portugal. Liiiiittle bit off.

Beautiful example. I had more than one teacher (all at the college level), where the teacher had a single answer in mind, and if you chose a different answer you couldn't possibly get above a B or a C.

EDIT 2: Bitter? Me? 30 years later? Nah, couldn't possibly be...

That would get teachers in serious doo-doo in my high school, we took debate quite seriously.

That said, answer a math question differently than the teacher wants, and you're just wrong.


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Freehold DM wrote:
That said, answer a math question differently than the teacher wants, and you're just wrong.

In fairness, math, more explicitly than anything I teach, tries to get across a process. Showing your work lets the teacher know where you went wrong.


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Freehold DM wrote:
Scintillae wrote:

Tomorrow will be fun.

"Why did you take points off? I got it right!"
"Remember when I said I'd take off points if you didn't use complete sentences? And see where the directions say use complete sentences?"
blank stares

You are teaching english(I think), which I love.

But you are using the techinques of the math teachers, which I hate.

Conflicted Freehold is conflicted.

Quite bluntly, the children are chronically lazy, and most will not use actual sentences unless forced. Which leads to really painful to read essays. They teach how to write sentences in first grade. By the time they get to me, they have no excuse to not use them, and this is the only real tool I have to enforce it.


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Scintillae wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
That said, answer a math question differently than the teacher wants, and you're just wrong.
In fairness, math, more explicitly than anything I teach, tries to get across a process. Showing your work lets the teacher know where you went wrong.

I'm sorry, Scintillae, but you're wasting your time with Freehold. He has a full-on hate for all things math. It was never taught to him in a way he could relate to.


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Scintillae wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Scintillae wrote:

Tomorrow will be fun.

"Why did you take points off? I got it right!"
"Remember when I said I'd take off points if you didn't use complete sentences? And see where the directions say use complete sentences?"
blank stares

You are teaching english(I think), which I love.

But you are using the techinques of the math teachers, which I hate.

Conflicted Freehold is conflicted.

Quite bluntly, the children are chronically lazy, and most will not use actual sentences unless forced. Which leads to really painful to read essays. They teach how to write sentences in first grade. By the time they get to me, they have no excuse to not use them, and this is the only real tool I have to enforce it.

why do I see you patiently tapping a riding crop into your free hand as I read this?

Oh man. I can find every heidern gif except the one I'm talking about.


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Freehold DM wrote:
why do I see you patiently tapping a riding crop into your free hand as I read this?

I couldn't possibly imagine.


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Is it because you're both My Little Pony fans.


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Only the best taste!


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John Napier 698 wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
That said, answer a math question differently than the teacher wants, and you're just wrong.
In fairness, math, more explicitly than anything I teach, tries to get across a process. Showing your work lets the teacher know where you went wrong.
I'm sorry, Scintillae, but you're wasting your time with Freehold. He has a full-on hate for all things math. It was never taught to him in a way he could relate to.

Thsi is not entirely true.

For a while, math was easy as reading. The teacher showed us tricks and ways of doing things that made multiplication and division very easy.

Then, the next year, the following teacher demanded we do things her way, and ground out of us the way we had learned it the year previous, saying we were wrong if we dit it any way other than she did. If we ever found a way to answer a questions that was different than the way she wanted, we were wrong. If we didn't show our work, we were wrong. And if we got the answer wrong, we were wrong. That last was understandable, but still.

This repeated as time went on.


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Freehold DM wrote:
John Napier 698 wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
That said, answer a math question differently than the teacher wants, and you're just wrong.
In fairness, math, more explicitly than anything I teach, tries to get across a process. Showing your work lets the teacher know where you went wrong.
I'm sorry, Scintillae, but you're wasting your time with Freehold. He has a full-on hate for all things math. It was never taught to him in a way he could relate to.

Thsi is not entirely true.

For a while, math was easy as reading. The teacher showed us tricks and ways of doing things that made multiplication and division very easy.

Then, the next year, the following teacher demanded we do things her way, and ground out of us the way we had learned it the year previous, saying we were wrong if we dit it any way other than she did. If we ever found a way to answer a questions that was different than the way she wanted, we were wrong. If we didn't show our work, we were wrong. And if we got the answer wrong, we were wrong. That last was understandable, but still.

This repeated as time went on.

So, in short, you went from having teachers that cared to teachers that were tyrants. I understand, now. Thanks.


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Rarity wrote:
Only the best taste!

You are my #2 pony and I love you.

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