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captain yesterday wrote:
If you like Starfinder I seriously recommend Iron Gods.

I'll get those next pay. Since they're relatively recent, PDFs will be less expensive. Will NEVER buy Giantslayer, since suicide is a plot element. That subject is still a sore point for me. Sorry.


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I don't like Giantslayer because it seems incredibly repetitive.

But yes, that doesn't sound fun.

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captain yesterday wrote:
If you like Starfinder I seriously recommend Iron Gods.

Heck I just plain recommend iron gods period.

Shadow Lodge

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John Napier 698 wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
If you like Starfinder I seriously recommend Iron Gods.
I'll get those next pay. Since they're relatively recent, PDFs will be less expensive. Will NEVER buy Giantslayer, since suicide is a plot element. That subject is still a sore point for me. Sorry.

I skipped GS because I already have a giant killing campaign I like and it had other more interesting stuff in it too, it's called Rise of the Runelords. So I'm out of the loop as to what this is referencing.


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Orthos wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
If you like Starfinder I seriously recommend Iron Gods.
Heck I just plain recommend iron gods period.

In a couple of weeks. I've still got bills to pay.


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No more sleep for me. My allergies just flared up. :(


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captain yesterday wrote:
Oh how I hate daylight savings time.

I find it perplexing that DST has been:

  • Shown to kill people
  • Shown to have a net overall energy cost, rather than reduction,

  • that last time Congress addressed it they chose to extend it, rather than eliminate it.

    Me, I'm a purist: If the sun is at its zenith, then it's noon. If you need your company's work schedule to be asymmetric around that, then for gosh' sake change your work schedule, don't go around resetting all your workers' clocks!

    But I will admit that NobodysWife and the Impii are looking forward to getting to sleep in an extra hour next week.


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    Orthos wrote:
    John Napier 698 wrote:
    captain yesterday wrote:
    If you like Starfinder I seriously recommend Iron Gods.
    I'll get those next pay. Since they're relatively recent, PDFs will be less expensive. Will NEVER buy Giantslayer, since suicide is a plot element. That subject is still a sore point for me. Sorry.
    I skipped GS because I already have a giant killing campaign I like and it had other more interesting stuff in it too, it's called Rise of the Runelords. So I'm out of the loop as to what this is referencing.

    I assume he's referring to how the adventure starts with the apparent suicide of a prominent town militia captain, and the PCs investigate to find out that he was murdered.


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    NobodysHome wrote:

    ...

    But I will admit that NobodysWife and the Impii are looking forward to getting to sleep in an extra hour next week.

    I get an extra hour of work. Yay?


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    gran rey de los mono wrote:
    Orthos wrote:
    John Napier 698 wrote:
    captain yesterday wrote:
    If you like Starfinder I seriously recommend Iron Gods.
    I'll get those next pay. Since they're relatively recent, PDFs will be less expensive. Will NEVER buy Giantslayer, since suicide is a plot element. That subject is still a sore point for me. Sorry.
    I skipped GS because I already have a giant killing campaign I like and it had other more interesting stuff in it too, it's called Rise of the Runelords. So I'm out of the loop as to what this is referencing.
    I assume he's referring to how the adventure starts with the apparent suicide of a prominent town militia captain, and the PCs investigate to find out that he was murdered.

    No. It's a sore spot for me because I lost a family member to suicide almost exactly twenty years ago.


    captain yesterday wrote:

    I don't like Giantslayer because it seems incredibly repetitive.

    But yes, that doesn't sound fun.

    I'll let you know, though I ran through it solo (because "slaying giants" wasn't high on either of our lists) there are quite a few parts that are actually kind of cool. It surprised me, too.

    Six parts, thoroughly spoiled:

    - part 1) investigation into a human town leads to spies and orc invasion

    - part 2) a murder investigation on a boat leads to a traitor; you end up dealing with a defunct/dead druid organization to gain access to a demiplane (with literally nothing preventing you from making it your own) to launch an invasion of your own into a fortress of orcs and giants
    [side note: you are betrayed by a seeming ally with an interesting backstory for no real reason]

    - part 3) explore an ancient valley to re-light a divine forge
    [side note: you are betrayed by a seeming ally with an interesting backstory for no real reason; at least this one has motivations, though]

    - part 4) cause disruption and dissent (earn enough victories to demoralize a small army) before invading an ancient undead's tomb
    [side note: you are not betrayed by a seeming ally with an interesting backstory - and it's kind of weird, and doesn't relate to much of anything until part 6... and then might betray you, though you really should have seen it coming]

    - part 5) all out assault stealthy infiltration of a massive volcano fortress in order to...

    - part 6) make an all-out assault on a giant's castle (that you may or may not end up with at the end of the adventure)

    Over-all, it was surprisingly robust in both environments and encounter design. Except for the part where an enchanter literally rules everything except part four. That's a thing.

    Like, if you get suggestion and charm monster, the game is pretty much over for most of the AP's foes. But! That actually creates new and unique opportunities...


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    Still sounds boring.

    We'll stick with Ironfang Invasion (which is f+@+ing awesome Orthos) for our monster army stories.


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    Oh! Also in Hell's Vengeance they made Tammy sheriff!


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    captain yesterday wrote:
    Oh! Also in Hell's Vengeance they made Tammy sheriff!

    I seriously could not stomach Hell's Vengeance. The whole thing was... awful. I mean, I knew it would be, but... still.

    :/


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    Who's that sneaking up behind,
    Theft and murder on his mind?
    Gracious! You've been sliced and spayed,
    By his Nightingale Blade!

    BO-HO-RIS THE BOSMER

    doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop


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    Tacticslion wrote:
    captain yesterday wrote:
    Oh! Also in Hell's Vengeance they made Tammy sheriff!

    I seriously could not stomach Hell's Vengeance. The whole thing was... awful. I mean, I knew it would be, but... still.

    :/

    We went for cartoon villainy, we weren't going to touch a lot of the actual evil stuff like skinning people or murdering unicorns.


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    I'm reading Atlantis, The Antediluvian World, and so far every other sentence starts with "9,000 years ago, with which Solon you knoweth nothing about"


    captain yesterday wrote:
    Tacticslion wrote:
    captain yesterday wrote:
    Oh! Also in Hell's Vengeance they made Tammy sheriff!

    I seriously could not stomach Hell's Vengeance. The whole thing was... awful. I mean, I knew it would be, but... still.

    :/

    We went for cartoon villainy, we weren't going to touch a lot of the actual evil stuff like skinning people or murdering unicorns.

    Yeah. That's most definitely for the best! XD

    Due to neither of us being interested, I ended up handling it via a made-up mechanic that has been established to function in our games that permitted multiple outcomes at once. The results of said mechanics on such a large scale are not yet clarified - it'll need to be done in-character, later, between an old PC (a mythic character from Council of Thieves) and a new one (the cause of the 17 divergent-yet-simultaneous multiple timelines in Cheliax).

    Yes, 17 is specific and intentional, no, it's too much to get into. It runs the gamut from "everyone is alive, but corrupt and enthralled." to "everyone is dead" to "too awful to contemplate" to "the dead people are all replaced by simulacrum, so no one knows" to all sorts of other things.

    I expect quite a mythical showdown, as this is the first time the mechanic has ever been used by a "pure villain" - previously, it's always been introduced as a kind of Q-like sort-of-kind-of-quasi-villain who never quite uses it for anything other than personal amusement or the (often unwilling, and often dubious) "enrichment" of the PCs.

    It's also the largest and most persistent and wide-spread instance of such a thing - usually it's a brief interlude, at most, and only involving a handful of creatures.

    When things eventually get to collapsing into a singular "true" timeline (which they will), the PC needs to be the one to make it happen in an "optimal" manner - generally by collecting the 17 alternate timelines into her own demiplane and reforging a new, 18th one out of them (or something else, depending on "things").

    Anyway, that's waaaaayyyyy too much information, I think. XD

    EDIT: ninja'd by yesterday, and then there was the coding issue... XD


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    captain yesterday wrote:
    I'm reading Atlantis, The Antediluvian World, and so far every other sentence starts with "9,000 years ago, with which Solon you knoweth nothing about"

    "... John, Snow"?


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    Apparently, not knowing s+!% is timeless.

    Who knew!

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    NobodysHome wrote:
    captain yesterday wrote:
    Oh how I hate daylight savings time.

    I find it perplexing that DST has been:

  • Shown to kill people
  • Shown to have a net overall energy cost, rather than reduction,

  • that last time Congress addressed it they chose to extend it, rather than eliminate it.

    So glad I'm in Arizona.


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    So glad I get an extra hour of sleep.

    And the night will come sooner...


    captain yesterday wrote:
    Tacticslion wrote:
    captain yesterday wrote:
    Oh! Also in Hell's Vengeance they made Tammy sheriff!

    I seriously could not stomach Hell's Vengeance. The whole thing was... awful. I mean, I knew it would be, but... still.

    :/

    We went for cartoon villainy, we weren't going to touch a lot of the actual evil stuff like skinning people or murdering unicorns.

    If we're murdering unicorns, can I nominate Rarity?


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    Mommas...don't let your kids grow up to be IT professionals...

    Got out of work yesterday around 6pm. Roughly 11 hours for the day, but I'm used to that. Had to come back into the office at 11pm last night. Didn't get to leave until close to 3am. Go home. Come back in by 7am. Someone goes by my office shouting "YAY IT'S FRIDAY Y'ALL!! GOOD MORNING IT'S FRIDAY!!" Reply back "Oh shut the hell up!"

    I might be cranky.

    I might need my bottle...of scotch...and yes, I am quite aware of what time it is. Bite me.


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    gran rey de los mono wrote:
    captain yesterday wrote:
    Tacticslion wrote:
    captain yesterday wrote:
    Oh! Also in Hell's Vengeance they made Tammy sheriff!

    I seriously could not stomach Hell's Vengeance. The whole thing was... awful. I mean, I knew it would be, but... still.

    :/

    We went for cartoon villainy, we weren't going to touch a lot of the actual evil stuff like skinning people or murdering unicorns.
    If we're murdering unicorns, can I nominate Rarity?

    Well, excuse you!


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    Vanykrye wrote:

    Mommas...don't let your kids grow up to be IT professionals...

    Got out of work yesterday around 6pm. Roughly 11 hours for the day, but I'm used to that. Had to come back into the office at 11pm last night. Didn't get to leave until close to 3am. Go home. Come back in by 7am. Someone goes by my office shouting "YAY IT'S FRIDAY Y'ALL!! GOOD MORNING IT'S FRIDAY!!" Reply back "Oh shut the hell up!"

    I might be cranky.

    I might need my bottle...of scotch...and yes, I am quite aware of what time it is. Bite me.

    ~gets the salt and pepper ready~ Sure! Be glad to. ~thinks~ Oh. You didn't mean literally. My bad.

    ~grins~ I understand completely about the IT end. I work for the phone company and am on call every other weekend. I can't count how many weekends I have lost due to constant troubles. And I work the night shift and have to sometimes pull some OT until 10 or 11 am, totally ruining my sleep time.


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    gran rey de los mono wrote:
    captain yesterday wrote:
    Tacticslion wrote:
    captain yesterday wrote:
    Oh! Also in Hell's Vengeance they made Tammy sheriff!

    I seriously could not stomach Hell's Vengeance. The whole thing was... awful. I mean, I knew it would be, but... still.

    :/

    We went for cartoon villainy, we weren't going to touch a lot of the actual evil stuff like skinning people or murdering unicorns.
    If we're murdering unicorns, can I nominate Rarity?

    YOU MONSTER! STAY AWAY FROM MY FASHIONISTA PONY!


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    ~holds up my hand~ I will take one unicorn burger to go.

    Shadow Lodge

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    John Napier 698 wrote:
    gran rey de los mono wrote:
    Orthos wrote:
    John Napier 698 wrote:
    captain yesterday wrote:
    If you like Starfinder I seriously recommend Iron Gods.
    I'll get those next pay. Since they're relatively recent, PDFs will be less expensive. Will NEVER buy Giantslayer, since suicide is a plot element. That subject is still a sore point for me. Sorry.
    I skipped GS because I already have a giant killing campaign I like and it had other more interesting stuff in it too, it's called Rise of the Runelords. So I'm out of the loop as to what this is referencing.
    I assume he's referring to how the adventure starts with the apparent suicide of a prominent town militia captain, and the PCs investigate to find out that he was murdered.
    No. It's a sore spot for me because I lost a family member to suicide almost exactly twenty years ago.

    I was more asking what was in the campaign itself that prompted the reaction.

    Shadow Lodge

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    Tacticslion wrote:
    captain yesterday wrote:

    I don't like Giantslayer because it seems incredibly repetitive.

    But yes, that doesn't sound fun.

    I'll let you know, though I ran through it solo (because "slaying giants" wasn't high on either of our lists) there are quite a few parts that are actually kind of cool. It surprised me, too.

    ** spoiler omitted **

    Over-all, it was surprisingly robust in both environments and encounter design. Except for the part where an enchanter literally rules everything except part four. That's a thing.

    Like, if you get suggestion and charm monster, the game is pretty much over for most of the AP's foes. But! That actually creates new and unique opportunities...

    If there's anything Paizo does well, it's putting a robust story behind their plots.

    It doesn't change the fact I find their orcs and giants pretty boring, so the campaign is probably not for me. Doubly so as orcs in my group's homebrew setting are very different from default, so I'd have to change a ton about the plot to find a way to make it fit.

    What's Ironfang about?


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    Arborreid, a nymph in space!


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    The children be bloodthirsty.

    "Based on the accounts we heard in the videos, vote whether or not we should declare war [in 1812]."

    ...87% yes.


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    Orthos wrote:
    Tacticslion wrote:
    captain yesterday wrote:

    I don't like Giantslayer because it seems incredibly repetitive.

    But yes, that doesn't sound fun.

    I'll let you know, though I ran through it solo (because "slaying giants" wasn't high on either of our lists) there are quite a few parts that are actually kind of cool. It surprised me, too.

    ** spoiler omitted **

    Over-all, it was surprisingly robust in both environments and encounter design. Except for the part where an enchanter literally rules everything except part four. That's a thing.

    Like, if you get suggestion and charm monster, the game is pretty much over for most of the AP's foes. But! That actually creates new and unique opportunities...

    If there's anything Paizo does well, it's putting a robust story behind their plots.

    It doesn't change the fact I find their orcs and giants pretty boring, so the campaign is probably not for me. Doubly so as orcs in my group's homebrew setting are very different from default, so I'd have to change a ton about the plot to find a way to make it fit.

    What's Ironfang about?

    What's Ironfang about?

    :
    A Hobgoblin veteran discovers an artifact that allows her to use a pocket of the Earth plane as a superhighway to get from place to place and then builds an army of monsters (such as an intellectual Minotaur and a Medusa super spy) to conquer Nirmathis and it's vast supply of natural resources.

    It's pretty sweet.


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    I'm super impressed with The Orville.


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    Sharoth wrote:
    ~holds up my hand~ I will take one unicorn burger to go.

    opens fire on evil dragon


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    captain yesterday wrote:
    I'm super impressed with The Orville.

    meh.


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    It's better than Star Trek.


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    captain yesterday wrote:
    It's better than Star Trek.

    removes captain yesterday from Christmas card list


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    Orthos wrote:
    Tacticslion wrote:
    captain yesterday wrote:

    I don't like Giantslayer because it seems incredibly repetitive.

    But yes, that doesn't sound fun.

    I'll let you know, though I ran through it solo (because "slaying giants" wasn't high on either of our lists) there are quite a few parts that are actually kind of cool. It surprised me, too.

    ** spoiler omitted **

    Over-all, it was surprisingly robust in both environments and encounter design. Except for the part where an enchanter literally rules everything except part four. That's a thing.

    Like, if you get suggestion and charm monster, the game is pretty much over for most of the AP's foes. But! That actually creates new and unique opportunities...

    If there's anything Paizo does well, it's putting a robust story behind their plots.

    It doesn't change the fact I find their orcs and giants pretty boring, so the campaign is probably not for me. Doubly so as orcs in my group's homebrew setting are very different from default, so I'd have to change a ton about the plot to find a way to make it fit.

    What's Ironfang about?

    what are they like again?

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    They're heavily based on the Jagermonsters from Girl Genius. They're a PC race so not always evil. Live in tundra lands fighting off dragons, frost giants, and extraplanar horrors from beyond the Mountains of Madness.

    Grand Lodge

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    Jagers best orcs.


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    Orthos wrote:
    They're heavily based on the Jagermonsters from Girl Genius. They're a PC race so not always evil. Live in tundra lands fighting off dragons, frost giants, and extraplanar horrors from beyond the Mountains of Madness.

    "Only the strongest survive here...."

    "HOKAY! Ve all strongest! Ja?"
    "JA!"


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    PICKLE RICK!!!


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    Scintillae wrote:

    The children be bloodthirsty.

    "Based on the accounts we heard in the videos, vote whether or not we should declare war [in 1812]."

    ...87% yes.

    O well. More droopy work for us, then.

    Dark Archive

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    NobodysHome wrote:

    FaWtL Challenge: Finish this sentence non-obscenely:

    "Paizo's web site goes down more often than..."

    ... Harvey Weinstein's trousers?

    (Too soon? Too soon.)

    Edit: Oh wait, you said non-obscenely. 10 points from House Infernal.

    Silver Crusade

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    Afternoon, all. What did I miss?


    Orthos wrote:
    John Napier 698 wrote:
    gran rey de los mono wrote:
    Orthos wrote:
    John Napier 698 wrote:
    captain yesterday wrote:
    If you like Starfinder I seriously recommend Iron Gods.
    I'll get those next pay. Since they're relatively recent, PDFs will be less expensive. Will NEVER buy Giantslayer, since suicide is a plot element. That subject is still a sore point for me. Sorry.
    I skipped GS because I already have a giant killing campaign I like and it had other more interesting stuff in it too, it's called Rise of the Runelords. So I'm out of the loop as to what this is referencing.
    I assume he's referring to how the adventure starts with the apparent suicide of a prominent town militia captain, and the PCs investigate to find out that he was murdered.
    No. It's a sore spot for me because I lost a family member to suicide almost exactly twenty years ago.
    I was more asking what was in the campaign itself that prompted the reaction.

    The scene at the festival that instructs young people how to kill themselves.

    Shadow Lodge

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    Wtf.


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    Yes. Apparently, people are supposed to kill themselves if they're taken captive by Orcs. Especially women. Those that have the AP can provide more detail.


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    NobodysHome wrote:
    captain yesterday wrote:
    Oh how I hate daylight savings time.

    I find it perplexing that DST has been:

  • Shown to kill people
  • Shown to have a net overall energy cost, rather than reduction,

  • that last time Congress addressed it they chose to extend it, rather than eliminate it.

    Me, I'm a purist: If the sun is at its zenith, then it's noon. If you need your company's work schedule to be asymmetric around that, then for gosh' sake change your work schedule, don't go around resetting all your workers' clocks!

    But I will admit that NobodysWife and the Impii are looking forward to getting to sleep in an extra hour next week.

    We need to start a Washington lobby.

    "Push our DST abolishment bill thru Congress, or we will hack into all of your timekeeping devices and shift your hours arbitrarily, without warning, and inconsistently with all other DC clocks!"

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