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Crimson Jester wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:

So is everyone out Barbecueing right now?

I had a Big hotdog a hamburger and some chicken breast for lunch. Love it, body is killing me right now but.....Nom Nom NOM

Beer sooon
Drink mine, not a fan of beer. So more for you.
LOL! I've got your back! I'm sure brew-master zombie will help too.
I am sure several including the Prof will too. As well as eat my share of Crawfish.

We're here for you! ;)

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Bitter Thorn wrote:
Studpuffin wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
Studpuffin wrote:
Ashe Ravenheart wrote:
It is very cool so far. As far as the aasimar wizard, this is the player's first Pathfinder game and he wants to see how the magic system works out.
We've got a new guy running a sorc for the first time. He's never used magic with any of his characters before either. He played a Jedi once, a long time ago when I was running SAGA Star Wars, but that system isn't anything like vancian magic. He also didn't have much in the way of force powers either, he mostly hit stuff with his lightsaber. I'm really looking forward to him blowing stuff up.
Staying in one piece seems to become the challenge.
Huh?
In my experience it's a challenge to get new spell casters to embrace defensive and utility spells. The big blasty spells all seem so much more sexy. Next thing you know that troll gets a little too close, and it gets ugly. Diane loves playing sorcs, but she'd rather throw a scintillating sphere than a stone skin any day of the week. YMMV.

Best wizard character I have ever seen played had few if any offensive spells. He used utility spells to keep his citified mage comfortable in this "damndable outdoors"

Most of the other players loved having him around for while he was not very good for combat, he provided chilled drinks and a safe place to camp every night.

Plus spells such as open, and true strike helped a lot.


Crimson Jester wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
Studpuffin wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
Studpuffin wrote:
Ashe Ravenheart wrote:
It is very cool so far. As far as the aasimar wizard, this is the player's first Pathfinder game and he wants to see how the magic system works out.
We've got a new guy running a sorc for the first time. He's never used magic with any of his characters before either. He played a Jedi once, a long time ago when I was running SAGA Star Wars, but that system isn't anything like vancian magic. He also didn't have much in the way of force powers either, he mostly hit stuff with his lightsaber. I'm really looking forward to him blowing stuff up.
Staying in one piece seems to become the challenge.
Huh?
In my experience it's a challenge to get new spell casters to embrace defensive and utility spells. The big blasty spells all seem so much more sexy. Next thing you know that troll gets a little too close, and it gets ugly. Diane loves playing sorcs, but she'd rather throw a scintillating sphere than a stone skin any day of the week. YMMV.

Best wizard character I have ever seen played had few if any offensive spells. He used utility spells to keep his citified mage comfortable in this "damndable outdoors"

Most of the other players loved having him around for while he was not very good for combat, he provided chilled drinks and a safe place to camp every night.

Plus spells such as open, and true strike helped a lot.

Diane is so torn when her sorcs get 3rd level spells. Her head tells her haste, but her heart says FIREBALL!

Sorry you're stuck at work BTW.


Gark the Goblin wrote:
Studpuffin wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
Studpuffin wrote:
Ashe Ravenheart wrote:
It is very cool so far. As far as the aasimar wizard, this is the player's first Pathfinder game and he wants to see how the magic system works out.
We've got a new guy running a sorc for the first time. He's never used magic with any of his characters before either. He played a Jedi once, a long time ago when I was running SAGA Star Wars, but that system isn't anything like vancian magic. He also didn't have much in the way of force powers either, he mostly hit stuff with his lightsaber. I'm really looking forward to him blowing stuff up.
Staying in one piece seems to become the challenge.
Huh?

Hey guys, let's send the new guy in to check for "traps."

Awesome movie wrote:
That was an ambush, not a trap. Even you should know the difference.
** spoiler omitted **

"You said it was clear!"

"No, I said it looks clear."

"Crap! How does it look now!?"

*shrug* "It looks clear."

Classic!


Crimson Jester wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:
The 8th Dwarf wrote:
ulgulanoth wrote:
what is this "sunlight" you speak of?
The hot babes in bikinis......
Yes but now I look at the hot babes in bikinis and realize that they are young enough to be my sons girlfriend.... cant look.
LOL! I can identify. My daughter is 21 now so it feels way too weird to eyeball attractive young ladies in their twenties.
I could see that. I also had to leave the pool in Mexico when the 16 yr old Spanish lass removed her top.

Ouch!

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Bitter Thorn wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:
The 8th Dwarf wrote:
ulgulanoth wrote:
what is this "sunlight" you speak of?
The hot babes in bikinis......
Yes but now I look at the hot babes in bikinis and realize that they are young enough to be my sons girlfriend.... cant look.
LOL! I can identify. My daughter is 21 now so it feels way too weird to eyeball attractive young ladies in their twenties.
I could see that. I also had to leave the pool in Mexico when the 16 yr old Spanish lass removed her top.
Ouch!

Perky.... had to leave.


Crimson Jester wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:
The 8th Dwarf wrote:
ulgulanoth wrote:
what is this "sunlight" you speak of?
The hot babes in bikinis......
Yes but now I look at the hot babes in bikinis and realize that they are young enough to be my sons girlfriend.... cant look.
LOL! I can identify. My daughter is 21 now so it feels way too weird to eyeball attractive young ladies in their twenties.
I could see that. I also had to leave the pool in Mexico when the 16 yr old Spanish lass removed her top.
Ouch!
Perky.... had to leave.

I'll be in my bunk...

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Bitter Thorn wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
Studpuffin wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
Studpuffin wrote:
Ashe Ravenheart wrote:
It is very cool so far. As far as the aasimar wizard, this is the player's first Pathfinder game and he wants to see how the magic system works out.
We've got a new guy running a sorc for the first time. He's never used magic with any of his characters before either. He played a Jedi once, a long time ago when I was running SAGA Star Wars, but that system isn't anything like vancian magic. He also didn't have much in the way of force powers either, he mostly hit stuff with his lightsaber. I'm really looking forward to him blowing stuff up.
Staying in one piece seems to become the challenge.
Huh?
In my experience it's a challenge to get new spell casters to embrace defensive and utility spells. The big blasty spells all seem so much more sexy. Next thing you know that troll gets a little too close, and it gets ugly. Diane loves playing sorcs, but she'd rather throw a scintillating sphere than a stone skin any day of the week. YMMV.

Best wizard character I have ever seen played had few if any offensive spells. He used utility spells to keep his citified mage comfortable in this "damndable outdoors"

Most of the other players loved having him around for while he was not very good for combat, he provided chilled drinks and a safe place to camp every night.

Plus spells such as open, and true strike helped a lot.

Diane is so torn when her sorcs get 3rd level spells. Her head tells her haste, but her heart says FIREBALL!

Sorry you're stuck at work BTW.

Suggestions:

Dispel Magic: Cancels one magical spell or effect.
Phantom Steed: Magic horse appears for 1 hour/level.
Deep Slumber: Puts 10 HD of creatures to sleep.
Blink: You randomly vanish and reappear for 1 round per level.

Yeah, they tease an early out and the pace is real real slow.


Bitter Thorn wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:
The 8th Dwarf wrote:
ulgulanoth wrote:
what is this "sunlight" you speak of?
The hot babes in bikinis......
Yes but now I look at the hot babes in bikinis and realize that they are young enough to be my sons girlfriend.... cant look.
LOL! I can identify. My daughter is 21 now so it feels way too weird to eyeball attractive young ladies in their twenties.

Hasn't stopped Hef.


Urizen wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:
The 8th Dwarf wrote:
ulgulanoth wrote:
what is this "sunlight" you speak of?
The hot babes in bikinis......
Yes but now I look at the hot babes in bikinis and realize that they are young enough to be my sons girlfriend.... cant look.
LOL! I can identify. My daughter is 21 now so it feels way too weird to eyeball attractive young ladies in their twenties.
Hasn't stopped Hef.

Hasn't stopped me. It's good to be the prof.

{twirls 'stasche}

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Marijuakurion {4:20} wrote:
Urizen wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:
The 8th Dwarf wrote:
ulgulanoth wrote:
what is this "sunlight" you speak of?
The hot babes in bikinis......
Yes but now I look at the hot babes in bikinis and realize that they are young enough to be my sons girlfriend.... cant look.
LOL! I can identify. My daughter is 21 now so it feels way too weird to eyeball attractive young ladies in their twenties.
Hasn't stopped Hef.

Hasn't stopped me. It's good to be the prof.

{twirls 'stasche}

yes but in Hef's case they have to get them in triplet so he isn't confused.


Urizen wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:
The 8th Dwarf wrote:
ulgulanoth wrote:
what is this "sunlight" you speak of?
The hot babes in bikinis......
Yes but now I look at the hot babes in bikinis and realize that they are young enough to be my sons girlfriend.... cant look.
LOL! I can identify. My daughter is 21 now so it feels way too weird to eyeball attractive young ladies in their twenties.
Hasn't stopped Hef.

I ain't Hef!


Crimson Jester wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
Studpuffin wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
Studpuffin wrote:
Ashe Ravenheart wrote:
It is very cool so far. As far as the aasimar wizard, this is the player's first Pathfinder game and he wants to see how the magic system works out.
We've got a new guy running a sorc for the first time. He's never used magic with any of his characters before either. He played a Jedi once, a long time ago when I was running SAGA Star Wars, but that system isn't anything like vancian magic. He also didn't have much in the way of force powers either, he mostly hit stuff with his lightsaber. I'm really looking forward to him blowing stuff up.
Staying in one piece seems to become the challenge.
Huh?
In my experience it's a challenge to get new spell casters to embrace defensive and utility spells. The big blasty spells all seem so much more sexy. Next thing you know that troll gets a little too close, and it gets ugly. Diane loves playing sorcs, but she'd rather throw a scintillating sphere than a stone skin any day of the week. YMMV.

Best wizard character I have ever seen played had few if any offensive spells. He used utility spells to keep his citified mage comfortable in this "damndable outdoors"

Most of the other players loved having him around for while he was not very good for combat, he provided chilled drinks and a safe place to camp every night.

Plus spells such as open, and true strike helped a lot.

Diane is so torn when her sorcs get 3rd level spells. Her head tells her haste, but her heart says FIREBALL!

Sorry you're stuck at work BTW.

Suggestions:

Dispel Magic: Cancels one magical spell or effect.
Phantom Steed: Magic horse appears for 1 hour/level.
Deep Slumber: Puts 10 HD of creatures to sleep.
Blink: You randomly vanish and reappear for 1 round per level.

Yeah, they tease an early out and the pace is real real slow.

I like dispel magic, but her higher level sorc in FR is arcane blood line so she gets it for that. The games I run tend to be very combat intensive, and sometimes we have 7 PCs so haste is the bomb. If we have a combat where she doesn't open up with haste all the veteran players are like "WTF!?". In the Kingmaker game it's more challenging because there are only 4 PCs, and the GM only allows core. If he considers UM core I'm sure I'll be getting the PDF for Diane. She is very frustrated by the lack of sonic and electric spells for her storm born sorceress.


Emperor7 wrote:
Kruelaid wrote:
Gary Teter wrote:
I have found a new thing I hate: people who go to campgrounds and run their generator for hours while they sit around their campfire. I am trying to convince myself it is to keep the dialysis machine running but I am afraid it is probably just their hot tub or the satellite tv. Or maybe they are making delicious fruit roll ups in their dehydrator and will share tomorrow and we will all be friends.

Yeee. Last time I went camping in Canada there were no generators. That sucks.

But I'm more of a backpack in the wilderness guy....

Decides not to share that the campground has electrical supplies for campers, and that they are quite useful when camping in April when it can be a tad cold, as well as for running the rotisseries for beef tenderloin. We eat good. Real good on our all guys camping trips. Plus I'm not into snuggling if my wife isn't there.

Wow camping has really changed since i was a kid. I think I'll stick with backpacking, canoes, and wilderness.

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Bitter Thorn wrote:
things.

Sleet Storm is 3rd Level. :)


Crimson Jester wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:
The 8th Dwarf wrote:
ulgulanoth wrote:
what is this "sunlight" you speak of?
The hot babes in bikinis......
Yes but now I look at the hot babes in bikinis and realize that they are young enough to be my sons girlfriend.... cant look.
LOL! I can identify. My daughter is 21 now so it feels way too weird to eyeball attractive young ladies in their twenties.
I could see that. I also had to leave the pool in Mexico when the 16 yr old Spanish lass removed her top.
Ouch!
Perky.... had to leave.

Back to the [cold] showers!

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Kruelaid wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:
The 8th Dwarf wrote:
ulgulanoth wrote:
what is this "sunlight" you speak of?
The hot babes in bikinis......
Yes but now I look at the hot babes in bikinis and realize that they are young enough to be my sons girlfriend.... cant look.
LOL! I can identify. My daughter is 21 now so it feels way too weird to eyeball attractive young ladies in their twenties.
I could see that. I also had to leave the pool in Mexico when the 16 yr old Spanish lass removed her top.
Ouch!
Perky.... had to leave.
Back to the [cold] showers!

It was my honeymoon. I took it out in other ways.

Scarab Sages

Back in Philly. Tomorrow - off to Virginia for maybe 2 weeks. Not sure yet.

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Aberzombie wrote:
Back in Philly. Tomorrow - off to Virginia for maybe 2 weeks. Not sure yet.

Work?

Scarab Sages

Or maybe, for once, I should say:

Howdy all. What did I miss?

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Crimson Jester wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
Back in Philly. Tomorrow - off to Virginia for maybe 2 weeks. Not sure yet.

Work?

Unfortunately.

Shadow Lodge

Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber
Wolfthulhu wrote:

sigh...

Well, it was a good weekend. Comicpalooza was AWESOME! Got to meet Hyrum Savage and Stephen Radney-Macfarland, both of whom are totally cool. ** spoiler omitted ** Also getting to playtest Hyrum's upcoming PFS scenario was... yup, Awesome! (And getting to introduce more people to Roagh's own... unique type of foot fetish is always fun! I'm sad that he only has a handful of scenarios he can run before he must retire.)

I was probably the most sleep deprived I had been in years. I was up late Thursday riding the new HD home from Austin, then up late for Con games Fri/Sat. Sunday everyone was so beat that it took us 11 hours to run two slots! :-D

I also got to meet Steve Jackson of Steve Jackson Games and Chris Perkins from WotC. My personal Most Awesome Moment™ of the Con was actually winning Mind-crushingly Huge Chibithulhu in SJG's random drawing on Sunday afternoon! I mean, how freaking cool is that?

Also got to see some old friends and make new ones among the local independent horror movie circles.

All in all, :-D

Wow! Will it give you a free entry into the Cthulhu game at Paizocon? Wish we could have made it this year. Maybe next.

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Crimson Jester wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
things.
Sleet Storm is 3rd Level. :)

I think one of her sorceresses got that! :)


Crimson Jester wrote:
Kruelaid wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:
The 8th Dwarf wrote:
ulgulanoth wrote:
what is this "sunlight" you speak of?
The hot babes in bikinis......
Yes but now I look at the hot babes in bikinis and realize that they are young enough to be my sons girlfriend.... cant look.
LOL! I can identify. My daughter is 21 now so it feels way too weird to eyeball attractive young ladies in their twenties.
I could see that. I also had to leave the pool in Mexico when the 16 yr old Spanish lass removed her top.
Ouch!
Perky.... had to leave.
Back to the [cold] showers!
It was my honeymoon. I took it out in other ways.

:P

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Tordek Rumnaheim wrote:
Wolfthulhu wrote:

sigh...

Well, it was a good weekend. Comicpalooza was AWESOME! Got to meet Hyrum Savage and Stephen Radney-Macfarland, both of whom are totally cool. ** spoiler omitted ** Also getting to playtest Hyrum's upcoming PFS scenario was... yup, Awesome! (And getting to introduce more people to Roagh's own... unique type of foot fetish is always fun! I'm sad that he only has a handful of scenarios he can run before he must retire.)

I was probably the most sleep deprived I had been in years. I was up late Thursday riding the new HD home from Austin, then up late for Con games Fri/Sat. Sunday everyone was so beat that it took us 11 hours to run two slots! :-D

I also got to meet Steve Jackson of Steve Jackson Games and Chris Perkins from WotC. My personal Most Awesome Moment™ of the Con was actually winning Mind-crushingly Huge Chibithulhu in SJG's random drawing on Sunday afternoon! I mean, how freaking cool is that?

Also got to see some old friends and make new ones among the local independent horror movie circles.

All in all, :-D

Wow! Will it give you a free entry into the Cthulhu game at Paizocon? Wish we could have made it this year. Maybe next.

Sweet!


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Cool!

Scarab Sages

In preparation for tomorrow....

.....AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

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I'm building some demon orcs (Tanarukk in FR). Does CR4 sound right for Barb2 orcs with fiendish, advanced, and SR 12? Technically they are CR 3, but I up'ed their stats and SR a bit. I'm shooting for CR4, but I think an other level of barb is over doing it, but they seem a hair light. I'm not sure.

Thanks.

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Heta and San are the only two without something that can be copied.
although
H M work fine for them

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Spoiler:

The Lords Prayer
Πάτερ ἡμῶν ὁ ἐν τοῖς οὐρανοῖς· ἁγιασθήτω τὸ ὄνομά σου·
ἐλθέτω ἡ βασιλεία σου·
γενηθήτω τὸ θέλημά σου, ὡς ἐν οὐρανῷ, καὶ ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς·
τὸν ἄρτον ἡμῶν τὸν ἐπιούσιον δὸς ἡμῖν σήμερον·
καὶ ἄφες ἡμῖν τὰ ὀφειλήματα ἡμῶν,
ὡς καὶ ἡμεῖς ἀφίεμεν τοῖς ὀφειλέταις ἡμῶν·
καὶ μὴ εἰσενέγκῃς ἡμᾶς εἰς πειρασμόν, ἀλλὰ ῥῦσαι ἡμᾶς ἀπὸ τοῦ πονηροῦ.
Ἀμήν.

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Bitter Thorn wrote:

I'm building some demon orcs (Tanarukk in FR). Does CR4 sound right for Barb2 orcs with fiendish, advanced, and SR 12? Technically they are CR 3, but I up'ed their stats and SR a bit. I'm shooting for CR4, but I think an other level of barb is over doing it, but they seem a hair light. I'm not sure.

Thanks.

Studpuffin might weigh in and he is much better than I at this, but it seems about right to me.

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I was looking for runic to try as well. hmmm.

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Crimson Jester wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:

I'm building some demon orcs (Tanarukk in FR). Does CR4 sound right for Barb2 orcs with fiendish, advanced, and SR 12? Technically they are CR 3, but I up'ed their stats and SR a bit. I'm shooting for CR4, but I think an other level of barb is over doing it, but they seem a hair light. I'm not sure.

Thanks.

Studpuffin might weigh in and he is much better than I at this, but it seems about right to me.

Cool, I'll take help where I can get it. I struggled a bit with the 3.5 to beta to Pathfinder conversion on this, and I almost TPK'ed the party with an encounter that should have been hard but not crazy.


Bitter Thorn wrote:

I'm building some demon orcs (Tanarukk in FR). Does CR4 sound right for Barb2 orcs with fiendish, advanced, and SR 12? Technically they are CR 3, but I up'ed their stats and SR a bit. I'm shooting for CR4, but I think an other level of barb is over doing it, but they seem a hair light. I'm not sure.

Thanks.

I think CR 3 is safe. I'd leave the SR alone, so the wizard can do something.

But, a barbarian with 18 constipation is going to have.....21 h.p., then what, 25 h.p when raging? Wupty doo! That's two or three solid hits with a greataxe.

Gargoyle's CR 4, and it has 42 h.p. and is dr 10/magic. I think CR 3 is safe for these Tanarukk.

But I HATE SR. I think it's a design copout, a catchall that feels like whoever made it up didn't want to think about stuff. Just....."sr! I'll give stuff sr, so the wizard can't kill everything! Woohoo!" I think SR is goofy.

AND I make custom stuff up all the time, so I'm kinda used to it.
My thing is: when in doubt, go lower on the CR than you want to. I don't think these tanarukk compare with anything CR 4.


Aberzombie wrote:
Back in Philly. Tomorrow - off to Viagra for maybe 2 weeks. Not sure yet.

FIFY

Wow! Aren't you supposed to call a doctor if it lasts more than 4 hours?


Emperor7 wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
Back in Philly. Tomorrow - off to Viagra for maybe 2 weeks. Not sure yet.

FIFY

Wow! Aren't you supposed to call a doctor if it lasts more than 4 hours?

No.

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Back home, showered and sparkly again!

CJ-we store all the characters, but for a LOT of them, browsers will only display an empty square unless the appropriate font is installed on a visitor's computer. For example, your most recent post just shows as boxes for me on the iPad.

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Well that sucks. I was just experimenting anyway.

Sparkly?? we don't like them kind around here. Vampires do not sparkle!

Paizo Employee Senior Software Developer

If you're curious, here are all of them.

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What can I say I was bored. That and I am interested to see how it looks on a different browser when I finally get home myself.

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We turned west before we got to Forks. So no vampires. Just sparkly clean!

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