Nekkid aging guy for ToP?! Ewww.....
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Oops. Must be my Some-timers kicking in. Sorry.I don't live in Ohio. ???Only sometimes? You live in Ohio! Granted that southern Ohio at least has some hills. I have to drive north to get away from miles of flat urban landscape. ;PI always like your photos. Those falls are gorgeous. I envy you Colorado's terrain sometimes. :)Hello everyone. Back -- for the most part. Got to get back to work.
Didn't take as many pictures as I would have liked, but spent some good time with family. Got a couple of good pics of Boulder Falls if you are interested.
You're thinking of those OTHER guys.
562 messages?!?!?!? @_@
how'm I ever going to catch up?
Two Words: TORDEK MANEUVER.
Simplicité!
You're thinking of those OTHER guys.Oops. Must be my Some-timers kicking in. Sorry.I don't live in Ohio. ???Only sometimes? You live in Ohio! Granted that southern Ohio at least has some hills. I have to drive north to get away from miles of flat urban landscape. ;PI always like your photos. Those falls are gorgeous. I envy you Colorado's terrain sometimes. :)Hello everyone. Back -- for the most part. Got to get back to work.
Didn't take as many pictures as I would have liked, but spent some good time with family. Got a couple of good pics of Boulder Falls if you are interested.
There are people from outside the Midwest that can keep those states straight?
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There are people from outside the Midwest that can keep those states straight?You're thinking of those OTHER guys.Oops. Must be my Some-timers kicking in. Sorry.I don't live in Ohio. ???Only sometimes? You live in Ohio! Granted that southern Ohio at least has some hills. I have to drive north to get away from miles of flat urban landscape. ;PI always like your photos. Those falls are gorgeous. I envy you Colorado's terrain sometimes. :)Hello everyone. Back -- for the most part. Got to get back to work.
Didn't take as many pictures as I would have liked, but spent some good time with family. Got a couple of good pics of Boulder Falls if you are interested.
Yep. It's not like we're oakies or anything. :P
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There are people from outside the Midwest that can keep those states straight?You're thinking of those OTHER guys.Oops. Must be my Some-timers kicking in. Sorry.I don't live in Ohio. ???Only sometimes? You live in Ohio! Granted that southern Ohio at least has some hills. I have to drive north to get away from miles of flat urban landscape. ;PI always like your photos. Those falls are gorgeous. I envy you Colorado's terrain sometimes. :)Hello everyone. Back -- for the most part. Got to get back to work.
Didn't take as many pictures as I would have liked, but spent some good time with family. Got a couple of good pics of Boulder Falls if you are interested.
just member he lives in misery um.... Missouri
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Yep. It's not like we're oakies or anything. :PThere are people from outside the Midwest that can keep those states straight?You're thinking of those OTHER guys.Oops. Must be my Some-timers kicking in. Sorry.I don't live in Ohio. ???Only sometimes? You live in Ohio! Granted that southern Ohio at least has some hills. I have to drive north to get away from miles of flat urban landscape. ;PI always like your photos. Those falls are gorgeous. I envy you Colorado's terrain sometimes. :)Hello everyone. Back -- for the most part. Got to get back to work.
Didn't take as many pictures as I would have liked, but spent some good time with family. Got a couple of good pics of Boulder Falls if you are interested.
True things could be much worse.
Bump for SP.Cool, I'll take help where I can get it. I struggled a bit with the 3.5 to beta to Pathfinder conversion on this, and I almost TPK'ed the party with an encounter that should have been hard but not crazy.Studpuffin might weigh in and he is much better than I at this, but it seems about right to me.I'm building some demon orcs (Tanarukk in FR). Does CR4 sound right for Barb2 orcs with fiendish, advanced, and SR 12? Technically they are CR 3, but I up'ed their stats and SR a bit. I'm shooting for CR4, but I think an other level of barb is over doing it, but they seem a hair light. I'm not sure.
Thanks.
Sorry I didn't see this before. :(
Anyway, I think I remember Tanarukk being about CR 2 or 3 in the Monsters of Faerun book, and they had outsider racial hit dice at that time. I would say that Barb 2 (which is CR 1) plus fiendish, advanced, and SR translates to about a CR of 2 or 3. If you want to up them to about CR 4 I would add another level of barbarian.
Alternatively, you could start with a basic orc barbarian and drop the half-fiend template on them... but that might be a little too much oomph for not enough HP. I'd still probably tack on a level of Barbarian.
What kind of stat array and feats are you looking at, though? That could make all the difference.
With stat mods they are at 38HP, AC19, and 2d4+18 with falchions when raging with PA. They also get the DR5 cold and fire with SR12. I upped their natural armor by 2 and SR to 12. CR2 seems pretty low to me. CR3 is making more sense than last night. Power attack and toughness for feats and a a flaw that drops their speed.
I use the half fiend template on some Orcs for bosses and spell casters, but the wings don't work for regular Tanarukk.
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You're thinking of those OTHER guys.Oops. Must be my Some-timers kicking in. Sorry.I don't live in Ohio. ???Only sometimes? You live in Ohio! Granted that southern Ohio at least has some hills. I have to drive north to get away from miles of flat urban landscape. ;PI always like your photos. Those falls are gorgeous. I envy you Colorado's terrain sometimes. :)Hello everyone. Back -- for the most part. Got to get back to work.
Didn't take as many pictures as I would have liked, but spent some good time with family. Got a couple of good pics of Boulder Falls if you are interested.
Who?
Yep. It's not like we're oakies or anything. :P
OKIES: Take some midwesterners, knock some of the civilization out of them and rub red dirt on 'em, and you have Okies. Over time, they are acquiring a bit of Texas/Southwestern veneer plus recivilizing. Thank goodness.
Nekkid aging guy for ToP?! Ewww.....
And I though my ToPs were odd!
Studpuffin roosts with me,
So he's in Mizzooree.
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What kind of stat array and feats are you looking at, though? That could make all the difference.With stat mods they are at 38HP, AC19, and 2d4+18 with falchions when raging with PA. They also get the DR5 cold and fire with SR12. I upped their natural armor by 2 and SR to 12. CR2 seems pretty low to me. CR3 is making more sense than last night. Power attack and toughness for feats and a a flaw that drops their speed.
I use the half fiend template on some Orcs for bosses and spell casters, but the wings don't work for regular Tanarukk.
What does their too-hit look like with the falchions? It sounds like you've got their strength way higher than I thought you had. Are they sitting around a 30 str with the rage?
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My personal Most Awesome Moment™ of the Con was actually winning Mind-crushingly Huge Chibithulhu in SJG's random drawing on Sunday afternoon! I mean, how freaking cool is that?
That was an awesome moment. Everyone in our area was expecting to be disappointed, though hoping faintly for a chance at the Chibithulhu...and then you won! :D
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Bump for SP.Cool, I'll take help where I can get it. I struggled a bit with the 3.5 to beta to Pathfinder conversion on this, and I almost TPK'ed the party with an encounter that should have been hard but not crazy.Studpuffin might weigh in and he is much better than I at this, but it seems about right to me.I'm building some demon orcs (Tanarukk in FR). Does CR4 sound right for Barb2 orcs with fiendish, advanced, and SR 12? Technically they are CR 3, but I up'ed their stats and SR a bit. I'm shooting for CR4, but I think an other level of barb is over doing it, but they seem a hair light. I'm not sure.
Thanks.
Sorry I didn't see this before. :(
Anyway, I think I remember Tanarukk being about CR 2 or 3 in the Monsters of Faerun book, and they had outsider racial hit dice at that time. I would say that Barb 2 (which is CR 1) plus fiendish, advanced, and SR translates to about a CR of 2 or 3. If you want to up them to about CR 4 I would add another level of barbarian.
Alternatively, you could start with a basic orc barbarian and drop the half-fiend template on them... but that might be a little too much oomph for not enough HP. I'd still probably tack on a level of Barbarian.
What kind of stat array and feats are you looking at, though? That could make all the difference.
With stat mods they are at 38HP, AC19, and 2d4+18 with falchions when raging with PA. They also get the DR5 cold and fire with SR12. I upped their natural armor by 2 and SR to 12. CR2 seems pretty low to me. CR3 is making more sense than last night. Power attack and toughness for feats and a a flaw that drops their speed.
I use the half fiend template on some Orcs for bosses and spell casters, but the wings don't work for regular Tanarukk.
Wait, orcs have natural armour?
Oh, and I just remembered that smite evil persists until the target is dead. And it gives some pretty good bonuses. I think they might work pretty well as CR 4.
What does their too-hit look like with the falchions? It sounds like you've got their strength way higher than I thought you had. Are they sitting around a 30 str with the rage?
What kind of stat array and feats are you looking at, though? That could make all the difference.With stat mods they are at 38HP, AC19, and 2d4+18 with falchions when raging with PA. They also get the DR5 cold and fire with SR12. I upped their natural armor by 2 and SR to 12. CR2 seems pretty low to me. CR3 is making more sense than last night. Power attack and toughness for feats and a a flaw that drops their speed.
I use the half fiend template on some Orcs for bosses and spell casters, but the wings don't work for regular Tanarukk.
Yup, 30 STR with rage, but we do have some stat inflation in our game. +13 with MW falchions. Surprise Accuracy for the rage power.
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Yup, 30 STR with rage, but we do have some stat inflation in our game. +13 with MW falchions. Surprise Accuracy for the rage power.What does their too-hit look like with the falchions? It sounds like you've got their strength way higher than I thought you had. Are they sitting around a 30 str with the rage?
What kind of stat array and feats are you looking at, though? That could make all the difference.With stat mods they are at 38HP, AC19, and 2d4+18 with falchions when raging with PA. They also get the DR5 cold and fire with SR12. I upped their natural armor by 2 and SR to 12. CR2 seems pretty low to me. CR3 is making more sense than last night. Power attack and toughness for feats and a a flaw that drops their speed.
I use the half fiend template on some Orcs for bosses and spell casters, but the wings don't work for regular Tanarukk.
Hmmm, that strength is deadly for the lower CR. I would definitely add a barb level and swing it's CR up a point. Alternatively, you could tack on two levels of warrior. You get more accuracy and HP for a lesser CR.
Hmmm, that strength is deadly for the lower CR. I would definitely add a barb level and swing it's CR up a point. Alternatively, you could tack on two levels of warrior. You get more accuracy and HP for a lesser CR.Yup, 30 STR with rage, but we do have some stat inflation in our game. +13 with MW falchions. Surprise Accuracy for the rage power.What does their too-hit look like with the falchions? It sounds like you've got their strength way higher than I thought you had. Are they sitting around a 30 str with the rage?
What kind of stat array and feats are you looking at, though? That could make all the difference.With stat mods they are at 38HP, AC19, and 2d4+18 with falchions when raging with PA. They also get the DR5 cold and fire with SR12. I upped their natural armor by 2 and SR to 12. CR2 seems pretty low to me. CR3 is making more sense than last night. Power attack and toughness for feats and a a flaw that drops their speed.
I use the half fiend template on some Orcs for bosses and spell casters, but the wings don't work for regular Tanarukk.
So either +1 barbarian level or +2 warrior levels and CR4?
The 2 warrior levels seem about right. AC19, 65 HP, +14 hit and 2d4 +21 with the falchion. Furious Focus for the level 3 feat.
Bad luck: bumping your threads right as Vic starts an announcement blitz.
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Hmmm, that strength is deadly for the lower CR. I would definitely add a barb level and swing it's CR up a point. Alternatively, you could tack on two levels of warrior. You get more accuracy and HP for a lesser CR.Yup, 30 STR with rage, but we do have some stat inflation in our game. +13 with MW falchions. Surprise Accuracy for the rage power.What does their too-hit look like with the falchions? It sounds like you've got their strength way higher than I thought you had. Are they sitting around a 30 str with the rage?
What kind of stat array and feats are you looking at, though? That could make all the difference.With stat mods they are at 38HP, AC19, and 2d4+18 with falchions when raging with PA. They also get the DR5 cold and fire with SR12. I upped their natural armor by 2 and SR to 12. CR2 seems pretty low to me. CR3 is making more sense than last night. Power attack and toughness for feats and a a flaw that drops their speed.
I use the half fiend template on some Orcs for bosses and spell casters, but the wings don't work for regular Tanarukk.
So either +1 barbarian level or +2 warrior levels and CR4?
The 2 warrior levels seem about right. AC19, 65 HP, +14 hit and 2d4 +21 with the falchion. Furious Focus for the level 3 feat.
I was wondering if you were okay with adding levels. Probably warrior levels.
I was wondering if you were okay with adding levels. Probably warrior levels.Hmmm, that strength is deadly for the lower CR. I would definitely add a barb level and swing it's CR up a point. Alternatively, you could tack on two levels of warrior. You get more accuracy and HP for a lesser CR.Yup, 30 STR with rage, but we do have some stat inflation in our game. +13 with MW falchions. Surprise Accuracy for the rage power.What does their too-hit look like with the falchions? It sounds like you've got their strength way higher than I thought you had. Are they sitting around a 30 str with the rage?
What kind of stat array and feats are you looking at, though? That could make all the difference.With stat mods they are at 38HP, AC19, and 2d4+18 with falchions when raging with PA. They also get the DR5 cold and fire with SR12. I upped their natural armor by 2 and SR to 12. CR2 seems pretty low to me. CR3 is making more sense than last night. Power attack and toughness for feats and a a flaw that drops their speed.
I use the half fiend template on some Orcs for bosses and spell casters, but the wings don't work for regular Tanarukk.
So either +1 barbarian level or +2 warrior levels and CR4?
The 2 warrior levels seem about right. AC19, 65 HP, +14 hit and 2d4 +21 with the falchion. Furious Focus for the level 3 feat.
It wasn't my first choice but it seems to work.
EDIT: +16 to hit with furious focus.
*click*
Focus just got more useful.
You, sir, are a prince.
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It wasn't my first choice but it seems to work.I was wondering if you were okay with adding levels. Probably warrior levels.Hmmm, that strength is deadly for the lower CR. I would definitely add a barb level and swing it's CR up a point. Alternatively, you could tack on two levels of warrior. You get more accuracy and HP for a lesser CR.Yup, 30 STR with rage, but we do have some stat inflation in our game. +13 with MW falchions. Surprise Accuracy for the rage power.What does their too-hit look like with the falchions? It sounds like you've got their strength way higher than I thought you had. Are they sitting around a 30 str with the rage?
What kind of stat array and feats are you looking at, though? That could make all the difference.With stat mods they are at 38HP, AC19, and 2d4+18 with falchions when raging with PA. They also get the DR5 cold and fire with SR12. I upped their natural armor by 2 and SR to 12. CR2 seems pretty low to me. CR3 is making more sense than last night. Power attack and toughness for feats and a a flaw that drops their speed.
I use the half fiend template on some Orcs for bosses and spell casters, but the wings don't work for regular Tanarukk.
So either +1 barbarian level or +2 warrior levels and CR4?
The 2 warrior levels seem about right. AC19, 65 HP, +14 hit and 2d4 +21 with the falchion. Furious Focus for the level 3 feat.
I found out that dropping two NPC levels into a build does little to modify it's challenge (beyond the HP). What level is your party? 2d4+21 is going to be some nasty damage. :)
In trouble at work again,apparently shouting "It's not the size of your flight, but how you use it!" after a fellow airman gets an award is innapropriate.
/ragequit
In trouble at work again,apparently shouting "It's not the size of your flight, but how you use it!" after a fellow airman gets an award is innapropriate.
/ragequit
LOL!
Why isn't Concorde service still available? And the Orient Express? Damn, this world is stupid.
Why isn't Concorde service still available? And the Orient Express? Damn, this world is stupid.
Cuz SOME PEOPLE don't care much for picturesque travel options!
Why isn't Concorde service still available? And the Orient Express? Damn, this world is stupid.Cuz SOME PEOPLE don't care much for picturesque travel options!
Yeah...and maybe because folks like you and me don't have buckets of dough layin' around.
Huh. Rone not a Johnny Depp fan? Or you just got burned by that woman? Tempts me to write a Brad Pitt one.
Stupid world is stupid.
Needs Beer. And Boobs (no offense ladies)
Going home to get both.
Stupid Jumbo jets.
Stupid Concorde Service.
Stupid picturesque travel options.
stupid, stupid Joss Whedon.
I found out that dropping two NPC levels into a build does little to modify it's challenge (beyond the HP). What level is your party? 2d4+21 is going to be some nasty damage. :)It wasn't my first choice but it seems to work.I was wondering if you were okay with adding levels. Probably warrior levels.Hmmm, that strength is deadly for the lower CR. I would definitely add a barb level and swing it's CR up a point. Alternatively, you could tack on two levels of warrior. You get more accuracy and HP for a lesser CR.Yup, 30 STR with rage, but we do have some stat inflation in our game. +13 with MW falchions. Surprise Accuracy for the rage power.What does their too-hit look like with the falchions? It sounds like you've got their strength way higher than I thought you had. Are they sitting around a 30 str with the rage?
What kind of stat array and feats are you looking at, though? That could make all the difference.With stat mods they are at 38HP, AC19, and 2d4+18 with falchions when raging with PA. They also get the DR5 cold and fire with SR12. I upped their natural armor by 2 and SR to 12. CR2 seems pretty low to me. CR3 is making more sense than last night. Power attack and toughness for feats and a a flaw that drops their speed.
I use the half fiend template on some Orcs for bosses and spell casters, but the wings don't work for regular Tanarukk.
So either +1 barbarian level or +2 warrior levels and CR4?
The 2 warrior levels seem about right. AC19, 65 HP, +14 hit and 2d4 +21 with the falchion. Furious Focus for the level 3 feat.
7th and 8th. My biggest challenge is knowing who will make any given game. We vary between 3 to 8 players so scale-ability is handy.
The damage is respectable especially with a crit, but the party usually has a very good combat healer and may have 2 sorceresses and a wizard on some nights. They can be a challenging group to GM for sometimes.
Stupid world is stupid.
Needs Beer. And Boobs (no offense ladies)
Going home to get both.Stupid Jumbo jets.
Stupid Concorde Service.
Stupid picturesque travel options.
stupid, stupid Joss Whedon.
Wait, if admitting to this offends ladies, then we are so screwed as to never get unscrewed.
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Wait, if admitting to this offends ladies, then we are so screwed as to never get unscrewed.Stupid world is stupid.
Needs Beer. And Boobs (no offense ladies)
Going home to get both.Stupid Jumbo jets.
Stupid Concorde Service.
Stupid picturesque travel options.
stupid, stupid Joss Whedon.
Does this mean we get to keep screwing? WOO HOO!
Yeah, I knew the polysemous nature of "screw" would get me into trouble. Much as boobs have.
Yeah, I knew the polysemous nature of "screw" would get me into trouble. Much as boobs have.*ponders how he can use the word polysemous to get Mairkurion into trouble*
Thanks for the new word!
I am a river...
FLOWING TO MY PEOPLE!
Why isn't Concorde service still available? And the Orient Express? Damn, this world is stupid.Cuz SOME PEOPLE don't care much for picturesque travel options!Yeah...and maybe because folks like you and me don't have buckets of dough layin' around.
Huh. Rone not a Johnny Depp fan? Or you just got burned by that woman? Tempts me to write a Brad Pitt one.
It's not autobiographical. I just noticed how some folks' significant others have mad crushes on celebs and the song just sang itself in my head, so I wrote it down. Depp is fine by me.
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Yeah, I knew the polysemous nature of "screw" would get me into trouble. Much as boobs have.*ponders how he can use the word polysemous to get Mairkurion into trouble*
Thanks for the new word!
I am a river...
FLOWING TO MY PEOPLE!
I mean it when I say this: NSFW!!!!
It has dirties.
Yeah, I knew the polysemous nature of "screw" would get me into trouble. Much as boobs have.*ponders how he can use the word polysemous to get Mairkurion into trouble*
Thanks for the new word!
I am a river...
FLOWING TO MY PEOPLE!
I mean it when I say this: NSFW!!!!
It has dirties.
Now how choice a link was that for what he said? <applause!>