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Fromper wrote:Although I love that Mr. Scruffy still went to check on Bloodfeast and make sure he was okay. Meoww? Hurrrr.I love how the lizard is barely damaged, while the other animals are in terrible shape. He may have the body of a lizard, but he still has the hit dice and HP of a T-Rex.
I'm even more convinced now that Scruffy's a companion animal. He's got pretty good HP, too. The familiar would have lower HP, even though he's slightly higher level (Belkar multi-classed, while V is pure wizard). And the tiger, despite looking the toughest, is just a pet, so he's actually got the lowest HP of the 4 animals, which makes perfect sense.

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I love how the lizard is barely damaged, while the other animals are in terrible shape. He may have the body of a lizard, but he still has the hit dice and HP of a T-Rex.
In 1st Edition Dessert of Desolation series my Magic-User Polymorph Other a Purple Worm into a Warhorse.
The Warhorse was near indestructible but always tried to swallow the party Halfling Thief whole or burrow through the ground.

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You would lose XP for losing a familiar in 3.5?
If the familiar dies or is dismissed by the sorcerer, the sorcerer
must attempt a DC 15 Fortitude saving throw. Failure means he
loses 200 experience points per sorcerer level; success reduces the
loss to one-half that amount. However, a sorcerer’s experience
point total can never go below 0 as the result of a familiar’s demise
or dismissal. For example, suppose that Hennet is a 3rd-level sorcerer with 3,230 XP when his owl familiar is killed by a bugbear.
Hennet makes a successful saving throw, so he loses 300 XP, dropping him below 3,000 XP and back to 2nd level (see the Dungeon
Master’s Guide for rules for losing levels). A slain or dismissed
familiar cannot be replaced for a year and day. A slain familiar can
be raised from the dead just as a character can be, and it does not
lose a level or a Constitution point when this happy event occurs.

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baron arem heshvaun wrote:You would lose XP for losing a familiar in 3.5?PHB, pg. 54 wrote:If the familiar dies or is dismissed by the sorcerer, the sorcerer
must attempt a DC 15 Fortitude saving throw. Failure means he
loses 200 experience points per sorcerer level; success reduces the
loss to one-half that amount. However, a sorcerer’s experience
point total can never go below 0 as the result of a familiar’s demise
or dismissal. For example, suppose that Hennet is a 3rd-level sorcerer with 3,230 XP when his owl familiar is killed by a bugbear.
Hennet makes a successful saving throw, so he loses 300 XP, dropping him below 3,000 XP and back to 2nd level (see the Dungeon
Master’s Guide for rules for losing levels). A slain or dismissed
familiar cannot be replaced for a year and day. A slain familiar can
be raised from the dead just as a character can be, and it does not
lose a level or a Constitution point when this happy event occurs.
Pity that wrinkle was dropped from Pathfinder. :(

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137ben wrote:Pity that wrinkle was dropped from Pathfinder. :(baron arem heshvaun wrote:You would lose XP for losing a familiar in 3.5?PHB, pg. 54 wrote:If the familiar dies or is dismissed by the sorcerer, the sorcerer
must attempt a DC 15 Fortitude saving throw. Failure means he
loses 200 experience points per sorcerer level; success reduces the
loss to one-half that amount. However, a sorcerer’s experience
point total can never go below 0 as the result of a familiar’s demise
or dismissal. For example, suppose that Hennet is a 3rd-level sorcerer with 3,230 XP when his owl familiar is killed by a bugbear.
Hennet makes a successful saving throw, so he loses 300 XP, dropping him below 3,000 XP and back to 2nd level (see the Dungeon
Master’s Guide for rules for losing levels). A slain or dismissed
familiar cannot be replaced for a year and day. A slain familiar can
be raised from the dead just as a character can be, and it does not
lose a level or a Constitution point when this happy event occurs.
I disagree. Removing flat xp costs from crafting and the death of familiars was one of the best changes pathfinder made.

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Lord Fyre wrote:I disagree. Removing flat xp costs from crafting and the death of familiars was one of the best changes pathfinder made.137ben wrote:Pity that wrinkle was dropped from Pathfinder. :(baron arem heshvaun wrote:You would lose XP for losing a familiar in 3.5?PHB, pg. 54 wrote:If the familiar dies or is dismissed by the sorcerer, the sorcerer
must attempt a DC 15 Fortitude saving throw. Failure means he
loses 200 experience points per sorcerer level; success reduces the
loss to one-half that amount. However, a sorcerer’s experience
point total can never go below 0 as the result of a familiar’s demise
or dismissal. For example, suppose that Hennet is a 3rd-level sorcerer with 3,230 XP when his owl familiar is killed by a bugbear.
Hennet makes a successful saving throw, so he loses 300 XP, dropping him below 3,000 XP and back to 2nd level (see the Dungeon
Master’s Guide for rules for losing levels). A slain or dismissed
familiar cannot be replaced for a year and day. A slain familiar can
be raised from the dead just as a character can be, and it does not
lose a level or a Constitution point when this happy event occurs.
Seconded. My players never touched crafting and would essentially lock their familiars in boxes never to be seen again after level 3 in 3.5. PF has allowed them to make use of both without feeling like they'll be ganked in the XP at any moment.

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Imbicatus wrote:Although I love that Mr. Scruffy still went to check on Bloodfeast and make sure he was okay.
Meoww? Hurrrr.Even in war, True Love can be found.
I would buy a small tie in comic book featuring just the Animal Companions.
And Elan. His intelligence makes him an honorary member.
Ironically, this reminded me of a line from an earlier comic:
Roy: "Where were you?"Belkar: "Taking the biggest dump since Elan assigned his intelligence score."
Then I thought about it, and realized that was actually when Belkar met Bloodfeast for the first time.

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TriOmegaZero wrote:The GitP forums are mostly composed of WotC message board members last I heard.Is it? I'll admit I've never actually used the WotC forum, so I have no idea which GitP forumites also used to visit the WotC forum.
It's only based on my personal observation of the same names and content. But then, I was giving a warning for my first or second post on GitP and never went back.

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Imbicatus wrote:Although I love that Mr. Scruffy still went to check on Bloodfeast and make sure he was okay.
Meoww? Hurrrr.Even in war, True Love can be found.
I would buy a small tie in comic book featuring just the Animal Companions.
And Elan. His intelligence makes him an honorary member.
What do you have against animal companions?

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Imbicatus wrote:Seconded. My players never touched crafting and would essentially lock their familiars in boxes never to be seen again after level 3 in 3.5. PF has allowed them to make use of both without feeling like they'll be ganked in the XP at any moment.Lord Fyre wrote:Pity that wrinkle was dropped from Pathfinder. :(I disagree. Removing flat xp costs from crafting and the death of familiars was one of the best changes pathfinder made.
Also makes it viable to drop XP entirely and level by fiat, which I sometimes prefer.
Definitely a good design decision, as much as I like the basic concept burning XP for such things.

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Familiar stuff
I actually see the game logic in losing XP for losing a Familiar.
Thanks.
The only time I had PC with a Familiar was when my Half Elf had a Faerie Dragon way back in 1st Edition, based off this iconic artwork. She (the Faerie Dragon) called herself, Princess Valentina Precious Smaug, (six times removed from the Lonely Mountain Smaugs) and had a fondness for layered cinnamon and vanilla cakes.

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I just realized V messed up. You'd think the smartest member of the team would remember that there IS a healer on board the ship. Elan might not be a high level cleric, but he can cast Mass Cure Light Wounds a few times on all the wounded animals, which would make sense to do before heading in to find the tiger's mistress.
In fact, with Durkula's betrayal revealed, Elan just became the sole party healer.