
scranford |

Kythvanath wrote:So trying to figure out what to take (assuming I still have s/w spells) would take burning hands for "crowd control" but since Kyth is scared of fire it will probably be shield since mage armor won't stack with the class bonus, and magic missile, shocking grasp, chill touch, or magic weapon any ideas on which. Also toying with gravity bow possibly probably not though.Okay, this is what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna limit your school access. You must choose four schools of magic to which you have access to. The rest of the class stays the same. Does this suit you?
Scranford?
Let do this thing!!!

Kythvanath |

I've noticed that though the elements are supposed to be in balance and yet fire always has the pointy end of the stick while the other elements have a couple of spells here and there and fire has a spell on every level or at least it looks that way am I wrong? (Curious since Kyth won't use fire to harm anyone yet want him to be able to damage with more spells than just shocking grasp and magic missle.)

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I've noticed that though the elements are supposed to be in balance and yet fire always has the pointy end of the stick while the other elements have a couple of spells here and there and fire has a spell on every level or at least it looks that way am I wrong? (Curious since Kyth won't use fire to harm anyone yet want him to be able to damage with more spells than just shocking grasp and magic missle.)
I'll look into it.

Kythvanath |

Is there anyone uncomfortable with Kyth being a Vanguard if so check the Magus and see if they want him changed personally I'd like to leave well enough alone but I remember Scranford being worried and some others slightly. So as I said I'd rather leave it as.
Also is it just me or at the moment does the Magus look a bit over powered? It gets weapon channel at 1 and the twf with spells can anyone say first attack shocking grasp through weapon and then another shocking grasp with off hand or burning hands....

Kythvanath |

Ok 1. Never said I want everything have I 2. Asking for ideas no reason to get pissed off 3. I believe we agreed that you keep your first class defense nothing taken later. So I don't understand your reasons for being so hostile everything I have done has been with the consent of the group, and I have even said if it is to much of an issue with the Vanguard class I could stay as a bard or now take the magus class. So I'd appreciate it if you'd quit with the attitude its unappreciated. Are we not all in this game to have fun? So I say we just have fun, only reason asked about any type of ac bonus is because I need to be in melee for the class to work the way its supposed to.
Edit: You seem to have the idea that I want to play a god class this is not the case I have no problem with a 16 ac but since I will spend most of my time in melee I was hoping to bump it up 1 or 2 points. In fact I might just waste 100 gold pieces and buy chain armor to get a 17 ac.

Kristophe |

Ok 1. Never said I want everything have I 2. Asking for ideas no reason to get pissed off 3. I believe we agreed that you keep your first class defense nothing taken later. So I don't understand your reasons for being so hostile everything I have done has been with the consent of the group, and I have even said if it is to much of an issue with the Vanguard class I could stay as a bard or now take the magus class. So I'd appreciate it if you'd quit with the attitude its unappreciated. Are we not all in this game to have fun? So I say we just have fun, only reason asked about any type of ac bonus is because I need to be in melee for the class to work the way its supposed to.
Edit: You seem to have the idea that I want to play a god class this is not the case I have no problem with a 16 ac but since I will spend most of my time in melee I was hoping to bump it up 1 or 2 points. In fact I might just waste 100 gold pieces and buy chain armor to get a 17 ac.
But all your posts are about making your character better, and have nothing to do with making the game better for everybody. And I'm not pissed off...just see warning signs of things that have destroyed games I've been in in the past. Sorry if you took offense, but if you don't want an opinion...don't ask for one.

Kythvanath |

Hey its fine real life takes priority or a game any day just sorry to hear about the problems.
Also I want to apologize to the whole party if it seemed as if I was trying to make a god character that was never my intent and I am sorry.
And I never said I didn't want an opinion I said the way you said it I didn't like, but I'm no better once was in a game with a gnome half-dragon who used a large great axe with no penalties and could kill 8 enemies in a single round not a fun game when all your swashbuckler does is stand around and watch a 3 foot thing kill everything.

Kristophe |

Hey nightflier were the traits you have on your profile usable on this game? If so damn I would have loved weapon bond it would have been so much easier to allocate ability points.
I'm not nightflier, and don't mean to speak for him, and I know it seems like I'm being comfrontational with you, but this is a core Pathfinder game. I don't understand why you keep trying to reach out for things not in the core. Nobody else had problems with this. On a personal note, I know Nightflier doesn't have a problem with it, but to me Weapon Bond is a horribly overpowered feat, that removes the only advantage that dedicated fighters have. Not only is your to hit as good as a dedicated fighter, but things like fatigue, and exhaustion that hurt a fighter, don't affect the Weapon bond feat. This type of feat is why I quit playing 3.5 and don't want to see this happen to Pathfinder.
Nightflier's other games are intentionally over the top, but he balances this with over the top challenges. This is a CORE game.

Kythvanath |

Kythvanath wrote:Hey nightflier were the traits you have on your profile usable on this game? If so damn I would have loved weapon bond it would have been so much easier to allocate ability points.I'm not nightflier, and don't mean to speak for him, and I know it seems like I'm being comfrontational with you, but this is a core Pathfinder game. I don't understand why you keep trying to reach out for things not in the core. Nobody else had problems with this. On a personal note, I know Nightflier doesn't have a problem with it, but to me Weapon Bond is a horribly overpowered feat, that removes the only advantage that dedicated fighters have. Not only is your to hit as good as a dedicated fighter, but things like fatigue, and exhaustion that hurt a fighter, don't affect the Weapon bond feat. This type of feat is why I quit playing 3.5 and don't want to see this happen to Pathfinder.
Nightflier's other games are intentionally over the top, but he balances this with over the top challenges. This is a CORE game.
You seem to have an obsession with me though while flattering is annoying. I understand you don't like extra options fine ok, but class armor was allowed before anything I did so I'm not sure where the whole "I don't understand why you keep trying to reach out for things not in the core. Nobody else had problems with this." comes from and is honestly offensive. I did not ask to change Kyth's chosen traits I was asking in hindsight. So before you get all core is core how dare you go out side of it, wait until you find out what's going on before attacking me. I have had no problems with anything anyone has done in fact I asked if anyone wanted me to change Kyth to a magus which is core. All I want is to ask a question of our GM with out you jumping on me like I just threatened to shoot someone.

scranford |

Kristophe wrote:You seem to have an obsession with me though while flattering is annoying. I understand you don't like extra options fine ok, but class armor was allowed before anything I did so I'm not sure where the whole "I don't understand why you keep trying to reach out for things not in the core. Nobody else had problems with this." comes from and is honestly offensive. I did not ask to change Kyth's chosen traits I was asking in hindsight. So before you get all core is core how dare you go out side of it, wait until you find out what's going on before attacking me. I have had no problems with anything anyone has done in fact I asked if anyone wanted me to change Kyth to a magus which is core. All I want is to ask a question of our GM with out you jumping on me like I just threatened to shoot someone.Kythvanath wrote:Hey nightflier were the traits you have on your profile usable on this game? If so damn I would have loved weapon bond it would have been so much easier to allocate ability points.I'm not nightflier, and don't mean to speak for him, and I know it seems like I'm being comfrontational with you, but this is a core Pathfinder game. I don't understand why you keep trying to reach out for things not in the core. Nobody else had problems with this. On a personal note, I know Nightflier doesn't have a problem with it, but to me Weapon Bond is a horribly overpowered feat, that removes the only advantage that dedicated fighters have. Not only is your to hit as good as a dedicated fighter, but things like fatigue, and exhaustion that hurt a fighter, don't affect the Weapon bond feat. This type of feat is why I quit playing 3.5 and don't want to see this happen to Pathfinder.
Nightflier's other games are intentionally over the top, but he balances this with over the top challenges. This is a CORE game.
As stated above I'm not attacking you personally, I just really don't understand why you constantly try for more options, when this was clearly stated to be a Core pathfinder game. Go above and read all your posts. They are always about wanting to do this, and being screwed because of your AC, and ruining your concept by changing feats.
If you want to know about personal attacks...fine. I find your gaming style selfish and offensive.You are as much a min-maxer as anyone I have ever played with, and you wouldn't last 2 sessions in one of my games without both myself, and all my players wanting to throw you out of the group, and you reduce my level of enjoyment of the game. I want to worry about the things happening in the game and not how you can maximize the potential of your character. I'm amazed at Nightfliers ability to deal with your type of player...That my friend is a personal attack.

Kythvanath |

Ok I have an idea, you go on and have your game I came to this game because I like Nightflier's style of GMing I love what he has done in the Midnight games. In fact I was very excited when I saw so many people I have seen in other rps I had read you included. But since apparently I am such a selfish gamer I will be dropping from this game you can have Kyth get killed how ever you want hell since you hate how I play and everything I do you can kill him yourself. Do enjoy this game everyone I am sorry I have been such a disruption.

scranford |

Ok I have an idea, you go on and have your game I came to this game because I like Nightflier's style of GMing I love what he has done in the Midnight games. In fact I was very excited when I saw so many people I have seen in other rps I had read you included. But since apparently I am such a selfish gamer I will be dropping from this game you can have Kyth get killed how ever you want hell since you hate how I play and everything I do you can kill him yourself. Do enjoy this game everyone I am sorry I have been such a disruption.
I was simply debating the options. You took it to personal level.

Kythvanath |

No, I am not going to let your attitude ruin the game I was having fun and still want to have fun. I am sorry for anything I have done. I have never wanted to lessen anyone's enjoyment, but I still want to play I like my character I put a lot of time into his background and everything about him. I put a piece of my self into every character I make. So I am going to stay in this unless Nightflier comes in and asks me to leave. Kythvanath Vanguard of the 1st tier is here until an enemies blade lays him to rest.

Zariah |

Y'know I've tried really hard to stay out of this but frankly it's infuriating. Everytime I've been in a game where someone is attacked for thheir character design choices or made to feel as if they're doing something whong just because they want to have fun it happens to revolve around the same thing.
You.
You and your refusal to accept anything other than the options you consider acceptable.
When you DM a game, feel free to state in big bold letters CORE ONLY DON'T EVEN ASK OTHERWISE!!! and refuse any other option to your heart's content.
Otherwise character creation is between the player and the DM unless they ask for help. If it isn't your character stay out of it. If an option upsets the whole game, fine everyone will note the issue and the DM will make a ruling. I you're the only one upset either deal or move on.
I've seen too many people have their enjoyment ruined by this crap to stay quiet. Back off, let people enjoy themselves and quit backseat DM'ing.
Nightflyer said:
Okay then.
Scranford, are you okay with this?
I'm sorry but no DM should ever have to post this question about another player's character because of one person.

scranford |

Y'know I've tried really hard to stay out of this but frankly it's infuriating. Everytime I've been in a game where someone is attacked for thheir character design choices or made to feel as if they're doing something whong just because they want to have fun it happens to revolve around the same thing.
You.
You and your refusal to accept anything other than the options you consider acceptable.
When you DM a game, feel free to state in big bold letters CORE ONLY DON'T EVEN ASK OTHERWISE!!! and refuse any other option to your heart's content.
Otherwise character creation is between the player and the DM unless they ask for help. If it isn't your character stay out of it. If an option upsets the whole game, fine everyone will note the issue and the DM will make a ruling. I you're the only one upset either deal or move on.
I've seen too many people have their enjoyment ruined by this crap to stay quiet. Back off, let people enjoy themselves and quit backseat DM'ing.
Nightflyer said:
Okay then.
Scranford, are you okay with this?
I'm sorry but no DM should ever have to post this question about another player's character because of one person.
Gotcha. And i agree that I should have stayed out of it, and will from this time forward...However this as all role-playing games is not only Nightflier's game but all the PC's game. In this case I went to the effort to create a character that followed the rules layed out by the DM in advance. I will speak of it no more. And if I have issues I will address them with the DM only.
havoc iii...I apologize for taking this public.

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Uhm..excuse me for butting in... I take it this game is full? I'm looking to play a Pathfinder World Game..PbP...open or Pathfinder Society.
I'd like to play my PFS Character Asherick 'Ashe' Whiteplume [Human{half-Chelaxian}, male - Paladin 6{IOMEDAE} / Bard 1]... he is posted at this very site. My story is that he is from Korvosa... but has been away for some time on tasks for the Pathfinder Society. If you have room I'd like to be considered for this game.
Thank you.

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Uhm..excuse me for butting in... I take it this game is full? I'm looking to play a Pathfinder World Game..PbP...open or Pathfinder Society.
I'd like to play my PFS Character Asherick 'Ashe' Whiteplume [Human{half-Chelaxian}, male - Paladin 6{IOMEDAE} / Bard 1]... he is posted at this very site. My story is that he is from Korvosa... but has been away for some time on tasks for the Pathfinder Society. If you have room I'd like to be considered for this game.
Thank you.
I'm just restarting this game after some issues with my ISP. Stick around. If somebody left the game while it was on a brake, you can jump in.