Aaron Bitman |
Another word: Our definitions of Smnrfing probably also vary greatly. If you're a hater of the little blue guys, then any appearance of them qualifies. But by practitioners of the art, it is not the mere appearance of, let us call it an S-post, but their swarming that constitutes a smnrfing. A functional smnrfing may aim to douse the flamey thread. In this case, their appearance, which hardly qualifies as a smnrfing, was to remind folks of another option besides the existing flag system and the attempt to enable ignoring.
Okay, that last post makes me think that, for all my posting about the word "S----," I didn't know what I was talking about. I just looked up "S----ing" in the wikipedia, and read three definitions of it, and none of those definitions fit. What does it mean here?
Also, I'm aware that what I'm about to say runs counter to the point I've been trying to make on this thread, but...
I have memorized a certain avatar, and trained myself to skip over it every time it appears without reading what is said, unless I am in the mood to practice resistance or inquire if it might be one of its minority users. One can make oneself very adept at this, I assure.
Are you sure that's a good idea? There are only so many avatars, and they're all used by multiple people.
For instance, there was once a user here - I won't mention the name - who, well-educated though he was, was infamous for trolling. That user eventually left, but every time I see someone, such as zylphryx, post here using that avatar, I instinctively think "Oh no, not HIM again!" I immediately realize that it's NOT him, of course, but I've been conditioned. Maybe training yourself by avatar might not be such a good idea.
Dr. Double Honors, Ph.D. |
<problems>
Yeah, it's a little more difficult to train yourself to skip names, but it can be done. So the real problem is, why aren't you reading the messageboard more often to fine hone these skills, Jreyst? You should start with my meditations on Gygaxian Naturalism, and choose one of my respondents* to practice ignoring as you read through the thread.
*Just kidding, respondents. You had some great (wrong) replies.
Zoidberg, M.D. |
For instance, there was once a user here - I won't mention the name - who, well-educated though he was, was infamous for trolling. That user eventually left, but every time I see someone, such as zylphryx, post here using that avatar, I instinctively think "Oh no, not HIM again!" I immediately realize that it's NOT him, of course, but I've been conditioned. Maybe training yourself by avatar might not be such a good idea.
What?!?!?
Nobody loves Zoidberg!
d20pfsrd.com |
Yeah, it's a little more difficult to train yourself to skip names, but it can be done.
Someone mentioned previously the idea of creating a Greasemonkey script to do this. Does anyone know enough about GM to attempt something like that? I'd even throw some $ into a Paypal account if someone were to develop such a script. I have another script I'd like developed that I'd also pay $ for if anyone were so inclined.
Dr. Double Honors, Ph.D. |
Dr. Double Honors, Ph.D. wrote:Another word: Our definitions of Smnrfing probably also vary greatly. If you're a hater of the little blue guys, then any appearance of them qualifies. But by practitioners of the art, it is not the mere appearance of, let us call it an S-post, but their swarming that constitutes a smnrfing. A functional smnrfing may aim to douse the flamey thread. In this case, their appearance, which hardly qualifies as a smnrfing, was to remind folks of another option besides the existing flag system and the attempt to enable ignoring.Okay, that last post makes me think that, for all my posting about the word "S----," I didn't know what I was talking about. I just looked up "S----ing" in the wikipedia, and read three definitions of it, and none of those definitions fit. What does it mean here?
Also, I'm aware that what I'm about to say runs counter to the point I've been trying to make on this thread, but...
Dr. Double Honors, Ph.D. wrote:I have memorized a certain avatar, and trained myself to skip over it every time it appears without reading what is said, unless I am in the mood to practice resistance or inquire if it might be one of its minority users. One can make oneself very adept at this, I assure.Are you sure that's a good idea? There are only so many avatars, and they're all used by multiple people.
For instance, there was once a user here - I won't mention the name - who, well-educated though he was, was infamous for trolling. That user eventually left, but every time I see someone, such as zylphryx, post here using that avatar, I instinctively think "Oh no, not HIM again!" I immediately realize that it's NOT him, of course, but I've been conditioned. Maybe training yourself by avatar might not be such a good idea.
I guess I've been lucky here. The two or three posters I ignore here have avvies that seem to be infrequently used. I'm only aware of one person I want to read who shares an avatar with one of these people, and that's why after training myself by image, I started to add the name in to see if I could train myself to do that quickly.
Sebastian Bella Sara Charter Superscriber |
Sebastian wrote:All this discussion of improper smurf use makes me wonder - what exactly would be the proper use of them? Making gold?What would they have thought of good, old V.G.?
I think they would've appreciated the joke after 2-3 pages full of his commentary. He's a diplomat, scholar, and gentleman.
Sebastian Bella Sara Charter Superscriber |
Sebastian wrote:All this discussion of improper smnrf use makes me wonder - what exactly would be the proper use of them? Making gold?STOP IGNORING ME, DEMMIT!!!!!!
I'm not ignoring you, but every time I read your avatar name, it registers as "Dr. Double D's". Then, I see the bearded dude avatar and feel ripped off.
Aberzombie |
Dr. Double Honors, Ph.D. wrote:I'm not ignoring you, but every time I read your avatar name, it registers as "Dr. Double D's". Then, I see the bearded dude avatar and feel ripped off.Sebastian wrote:All this discussion of improper smnrf use makes me wonder - what exactly would be the proper use of them? Making gold?STOP IGNORING ME, DEMMIT!!!!!!
Mmmmm....Double D's
Gene 95 |
I guess I've been lucky here. The two or three posters I ignore here have avvies that seem to be infrequently used. I'm only aware of one person I want to read who shares an avatar with one of...
I knew you were ignoring me! And I thought we had something special! *swoons*
Smurfurion |
to SMURF, v. trans. & intrans.
21st Century.
The purposeful activation of the Smurf code on the Paizo messageboard by many posters for multiple posts for either benevolent social control or mutual goofy amusement. Especially the persistent and programmatic action of the same. Back-formation of the noun, smurf, from the eponymous children's cartoon.
Vomit Guy |
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Aberzombie wrote:I think they would've appreciated the joke after 2-3 pages full of his commentary. He's a diplomat, scholar, and gentleman.Sebastian wrote:All this discussion of improper smurf use makes me wonder - what exactly would be the proper use of them? Making gold?What would they have thought of good, old V.G.?
Please, kind sir, you are embarassing me. I am but a humble servant of the people, and completely unworthy of such praise.
Dr. Double Honors, Ph.D. |
Dr. Double Honors, Ph.D. wrote:I guess I've been lucky here. The two or three posters I ignore here have avvies that seem to be infrequently used. I'm only aware of one person I want to read who shares an avatar with one of...I knew you were ignoring me! And I thought we had something special! *swoons*
PUH-LEASE. I have to practically beg to get you posting nowadays.
Sebastian Bella Sara Charter Superscriber |
Urizen |
Urizen wrote:Damnit. DON'T OPPRESS ME. *shakes fist*Sorry, old woman. I mean, Dennis. It's Dennis, isn't it? Bah, names confuse and infuriate me, so I suppose I'll have to resort to the violence inherent in the system.
I always did thought Shinmizu translated to chin music. So, when you're resorting to violence and swinging your fists furiously, you're delivering some sweet chin music, correct?
Dr. Double Honors, Ph.D. |
Gary Teter wrote:Auxmaulous wrote:I don't think Paizo cares enough about their boardsWait, what? Really? Honestly?
I think I will choose to believe that you are kidding.
LOL, yeah I was just kidding.
Paizo really does care about its boards and its customers!
I'm not surprised. All those spines in your avvy draw the eyes away from the LOLs.
Treppa |
Dr. Double Honors, Ph.D. wrote:I'm not ignoring you, but every time I read your avatar name, it registers as "Dr. Double D's". Then, I see the bearded dude avatar and feel ripped off.Sebastian wrote:All this discussion of improper smnrf use makes me wonder - what exactly would be the proper use of them? Making gold?STOP IGNORING ME, DEMMIT!!!!!!
I read that alias EXACTLY the same way! Then I'm too embarassed to reply to the post. I avert my eyes and blush modestly.
Crimson Jester |
Sebastian wrote:I read that alias EXACTLY the same way! Then I'm too embarassed to reply to the post. I avert my eyes and blush modestly.Dr. Double Honors, Ph.D. wrote:I'm not ignoring you, but every time I read your avatar name, it registers as "Dr. Double D's". Then, I see the bearded dude avatar and feel ripped off.Sebastian wrote:All this discussion of improper smnrf use makes me wonder - what exactly would be the proper use of them? Making gold?STOP IGNORING ME, DEMMIT!!!!!!
Oh come on you know you want to reply to him!
Treppa |
Treppa wrote:Oh come on you know you want to reply to him!Sebastian wrote:I read that alias EXACTLY the same way! Then I'm too embarassed to reply to the post. I avert my eyes and blush modestly.Dr. Double Honors, Ph.D. wrote:I'm not ignoring you, but every time I read your avatar name, it registers as "Dr. Double D's". Then, I see the bearded dude avatar and feel ripped off.Sebastian wrote:All this discussion of improper smnrf use makes me wonder - what exactly would be the proper use of them? Making gold?STOP IGNORING ME, DEMMIT!!!!!!
I find DD guys intimidating. They efeminate me.
Studpuffin |
Crimson Jester wrote:I find DD guys intimidating. They efeminate me.Treppa wrote:Oh come on you know you want to reply to him!Sebastian wrote:I read that alias EXACTLY the same way! Then I'm too embarassed to reply to the post. I avert my eyes and blush modestly.Dr. Double Honors, Ph.D. wrote:I'm not ignoring you, but every time I read your avatar name, it registers as "Dr. Double D's". Then, I see the bearded dude avatar and feel ripped off.Sebastian wrote:All this discussion of improper smnrf use makes me wonder - what exactly would be the proper use of them? Making gold?STOP IGNORING ME, DEMMIT!!!!!!
Hehe, moobs.
noretoc |
Perfect example of what we were discussing. Imagine this being an on topic post with useful information. If you are able to pick it out, in the two pages of crap that you had to go to then you have more time and patience then me. I am posting this as an example, mostly I would have just moved on no matter what the original thread was or how interested in the topic I may have been.
For people who are worried that a feature may allow me to ignore thier posts, well, the kind of posting seen here would have made me ignore all of the posts in the thread, if this wasn't a good place to make a point. If anyone actually reads this in the mess.
Sebastian Bella Sara Charter Superscriber |
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Ya know, I rarely, if ever, play any type of seniority card because, well, it's pretty stupid and meaningless and there is no correlation between the value of what someone has to say and how long they've been posting here at Paizo.
But, when it comes to whinging about off-topic posts, and smfing, and the general silliness of the Paizo regulars, all I've got to say is we were here first, we established a culture we liked, and that's the way it currently is.
Good luck changing it by trying to get the mods to crack down on us. I suspect they like the silliness we cultivate at its present (fairly reasonable) levels. Yes, it may deny you the chance to have that oh-so-important 10 page thread about why killing puppies is not a lawful good act or why we should kill whales for jesus, but somehow I suspect you will survive.
And, if not, I'd like to note that there are literally millions of other online communities out there, maybe one of which you may find more to your taste.
Me? I like Paizo the way it is. I like the smfs, I like the silly asides and funny avatars, I like coming to this virtual Cheers and having a good time with my drinking buddies. You're more than welcome to pull up a stool, but don't expect us to change to accomodate whatever you think is appropriate and proper in an online community.
Paul Ryan |
And, if not, I'd like to note that there are literally millions of other online communities out there, maybe one of which you may find more to your taste.
For that alone I'd have used a hypothetical ignore function.
Sebastian Bella Sara Charter Superscriber |
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Sebastian wrote:For that alone I'd have used a hypothetical ignore function.And, if not, I'd like to note that there are literally millions of other online communities out there, maybe one of which you may find more to your taste.
For that alone, I'd have used a hypothetical "I give a f#~@" function.
Treppa |
Berate me if you like, gang, but I don't see anything wrong with an ignore function. It won't be terribly effective on individual posters because of quote inclusions and because some people alternate between dead serious and utterly goofy posts, but that choice would be up to the ignorers. Is it worth the effort? That's for Gary to say. <shrug>
houstonderek |
Paul Ryan wrote:For that alone, I'd have used a hypothetical "I give a f#~&" function.Sebastian wrote:For that alone I'd have used a hypothetical ignore function.And, if not, I'd like to note that there are literally millions of other online communities out there, maybe one of which you may find more to your taste.
+1
Patrick Curtin |
Me? I like Paizo the way it is. I like the smfs, I like the silly asides and funny avatars, I like coming to this virtual Cheers and having a good time with my drinking buddies. You're more than welcome to pull up a stool, but don't expect us to change to accomodate whatever you think is appropriate and proper in an online community.
Starts Eighties slow clap
Studpuffin |
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Berate me if you like, gang, but I don't see anything wrong with an ignore function. It won't be terribly effective on individual posters because of quote inclusions and because some people alternate between dead serious and utterly goofy posts, but that choice would be up to the ignorers. Is it worth the effort? That's for Gary to say. <shrug>
Consider yourself ignored!
Spanky the Leprechaun |
Berate me if you like, gang, but I don't see anything wrong with an ignore function. It won't be terribly effective on individual posters because of quote inclusions and because some people alternate between dead serious and utterly goofy posts, but that choice would be up to the ignorers. Is it worth the effort? That's for Gary to say. <shrug>
I'd like one too, frankly.
I asted for one, though, a while ago, and Gary or Vic or somebody said, "survey says......."X" JUST like famly fude.So,.......
ask again, so he can go survey says,......"XX."
Then maybe your crazy Uncle Floyd who hears pretty well but just doesn't interact with the rest of us can ask for one.
"X." "X." "X."
No new car.
No trip to the Bikiny Islands.
Just
"X." "X." "X."
noretoc |
Me? I like Paizo the way it is. I like the smfs, I like the silly asides and funny avatars, I like coming to this virtual Cheers and having a good time with my drinking buddies. You're more than welcome to pull up a stool, but don't expect us to change to accomodate whatever you think is appropriate and proper in an online community.
I agree, I usually like it too. The silliness is not so bad as the three poople arguing over who can twist the same sentence the best to show it represent thier view, but there is also a time when a thread has a good and valid discussion going and it gets crapped in by people just looking to get attention for themselves. There is a time for silliness and a time for real talk, and yea, I may not have been here as long, but I should get to decide when I want to have a real discussion. Again, no one is asking anyone to change. The whole point of this thread is to allow a person to pick what he reads. If someone ignores you, you can still be silly with your friends and no one gets hurt.
Ambrosia Slaad |
Perfect example of what we were discussing. Imagine this being an on topic post with useful information. If you are able to pick it out, in the two pages of crap that you had to go to then you have more time and patience then me. I am posting this as an example, mostly I would have just moved on no matter what the original thread was or how interested in the topic I may have been.
For people who are worried that a feature may allow me to ignore thier posts, well, the kind of posting seen here would have made me ignore all of the posts in the thread, if this wasn't a good place to make a point. If anyone actually reads this in the mess.
It's the Internet. One skill I've learned (offline, sitting through conference calls) is how to selectively block out or skim through the "noise" to get through to the nuggets of useful info. Does anyone really have that much trouble quickly skipping over the non-useful stuff in a thread? Even in threads that manage to stay ontopic, not every single post is golden; I'm sure people just skip past the ones that aren't helpful.
And sometimes we all (myself definitely included) can take our own opinions on a topic or ourselves too seriously. It's nice to be able to defuse the situation with a little humor; if two disagreeing people can find common ground in a joke, it reminds them they have more in common than not.
Edit: and Smurf!
KnightErrantJR |
I like the smfs
You Smurf contractor. Would it really kill you to give up the pony for one post . . . ;)
Also, a disclaimer for any centaurs that might be reading the boards:
d20pfsrd.com |
Berate me if you like, gang, but I don't see anything wrong with an ignore function. It won't be terribly effective on individual posters because of quote inclusions and because some people alternate between dead serious and utterly goofy posts, but that choice would be up to the ignorers. Is it worth the effort? That's for Gary to say.<shrug>
I won't berate you because I'm 100% with you.