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I'm just getting back into playing PFS, after playing a bit during Season 0, and am interested in seeing what options are out there for software for creating a character and character sheet. (FYI, my intent is to create the character on my computer, and print out a hard-copy character sheet for play.)
I've been a big fan of Heroforge for my 3.5 games, and found two different Pathfinder "sheets" on the Heroforge site. I downloaded both of them, but wasn't thrilled with either of those. Are there other options out there that folks like?
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For my PFS characters I create "archive" versions on PCGen in case I loose my paper copy (thsi comes after loosing my paper copy and finally finding it). I also plan on scanning my Chronicle sheets sometime, just in case.
Honestly, have not even looked at the character sheets for PCGen as far as Pathfinder goes... no idea if there is a Society sheet or not.
mmmm I DO have a useful PDF you can use to save your info in. My site is down at the moment... I will see if I can find it again if you are interested.
email me at oclark86 (at) gmail (dot) com if you are.
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I'm just getting back into playing PFS, after playing a bit during Season 0, and am interested in seeing what options are out there for software for creating a character and character sheet. (FYI, my intent is to create the character on my computer, and print out a hard-copy character sheet for play.)
I've been a big fan of Heroforge for my 3.5 games, and found two different Pathfinder "sheets" on the Heroforge site. I downloaded both of them, but wasn't thrilled with either of those. Are there other options out there that folks like?
Macray's Keep offer PFS character management and print facilities. The URL is: http://www.macrayskeep.com/ You can sign up for free and use the Character Portfolio to create, store, update and print as many characters as you like.
Further, we will be, shortly, opening PFS play by post games.
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IMHO, you can't beat PCGen.
They have PFRPG support, including the bestiary, character traits, etc.
It's pretty easy to use, although a few things are somewhat hidden (it took me a while to figure out how to get it let me put traits on my character).
It supports pdf output inherently, as well as .html output.
It also has capabilities for running at the table, with buttons to do things like apply the effects of raging, or bull's strength.
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HeroLab has complete support for PFS play. In the opening options window, just check the "Pathfinder Society Character" box and it automatically excludes things not legal for play. It also handles XP and Prestige normally. It doesn't have every trait from every splatbook, but I believe most of that is available from users on Lone Wolf's forums.
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I use a spreadsheet called sCoreGen. Fairly good, updated fairly often, although it is currently mainly a single creator's project, so dependent on his free time...
Download site: http://chargen.motime.com/
Discussion boards: http://chargen.proboards.com/index.cgi#chargen
There are folks available, besides the programmer, who can answer questions on things like adding new feats and traits, and using some of the subsheets in the program.
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I use a spreadsheet called sCoreGen. Fairly good, updated fairly often, although it is currently mainly a single creator's project, so dependent on his free time...
Download site: http://chargen.motime.com/
Discussion boards: http://chargen.proboards.com/index.cgi#chargen
There are folks available, besides the programmer, who can answer questions on things like adding new feats and traits, and using some of the subsheets in the program.
This is my favorite program to use. I like how everything I need is on two sheets.
Venture-Captain, Michigan—Mt. Pleasant
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It took me a bit to figure it out as well. If you go to journal, you can fill in the scenarios that you play. Unfortunately it is divided between XP/GP and PP, so you basically have to enter in each scenario twice, once for XP/GP, once for PP. You enter in the number then click earn. it will go to 0 again, but in the greyed out area it will list your xp/gp/pp
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It took me a bit to figure it out as well. If you go to journal, you can fill in the scenarios that you play. Unfortunately it is divided between XP/GP and PP, so you basically have to enter in each scenario twice, once for XP/GP, once for PP. You enter in the number then click earn. it will go to 0 again, but in the greyed out area it will list your xp/gp/pp
There should be a better way to do this, but I haven't found it yet.
Even with this, I'd still recommend HeroLab 100%.
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That does get me a bit. People who decided to bring laptop and herolab to the table and then we have to wait while they bring their laptop back online and 'quickly' locate the sheet.I use Herolab as of very recently and I find it great for Society. I do however not bring it on laptop to any game and I print out character sheets before I go.
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I found a Google docs spreadsheet called Epizephyrii's. Its quite a bit like the excel spreadsheet character sheets, but sync'd by a Google account. This is nice because I can open a view on a phone or tablet. I create a copy each time I level and print out a paper copy. It doesn't guide you through the character creation, but the sync and having a local copy with Drive has been really nice.
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That does get me a bit. People who decided to bring laptop and herolab to the table and then we have to wait while they bring their laptop back online and 'quickly' locate the sheet.I use Herolab as of very recently and I find it great for Society. I do however not bring it on laptop to any game and I print out character sheets before I go.
This. I also export from HeroLab to PDF and plop on my iPad for backup.
After a few levels though, do an audit on yourself. HeroLab is not perfect.
This is the one I have been using for nearly 12 years. Here is a post from these boards
The Only SheetAug 3, 2012, 02:54 PM
The Only Sheet+, the powerful, automated Character management tool for Pathfinder RPG/D&D3.5, which also supports Paizo's Advanced Player's Guide, is being updated to supporting the Ultimate books from paizo! (click HERE to see the progress report)
The latest update, v3.700, features the ability to 'skin' (i.e. change font/font size/colors) The Sheet!
Click here for sample image
You can check the release notes for all the details of this new update.
A few of the main features of TOS+:
• Handles all the Math so you can concentrate on playing
• Implementation of the Stacking rules (explanation)
• Dynamic play for LapTop users (explanation, video example)
• High level of customization allowing users to implement their own effects (explanation, video example)
• Friendly community forum with many resources (visit forum)
• Support for both D&D3.5 and Pathfinder RPG, including the APG.
Happy Gaming!!
The Only Sheet
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I'm just getting back into playing PFS, after playing a bit during Season 0, and am interested in seeing what options are out there for software for creating a character and character sheet. (FYI, my intent is to create the character on my computer, and print out a hard-copy character sheet for play.)
I've been a big fan of Heroforge for my 3.5 games, and found two different Pathfinder "sheets" on the Heroforge site. I downloaded both of them, but wasn't thrilled with either of those. Are there other options out there that folks like?
Another vote for Herolab. I'm the DM in our group and I like it so much I have licensed copies on 3 different machines, for PFRPG, D20, CoC, DnD 4E. Absolutely love it!
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I tried PCGen (as I was a huge fan in the 3.x days), but I found that the software just wasn't keeping up with the releases from Paizo. HeroLab does much better about keeping up with it. I've been exporting my character sheets to PDF and bringing them to the table in my iPad, which also holds all my books and scenarios.
I'm very excited about the iPad version that is in beta right now, as it will perform in-game adjustments for you.
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I tried PCGen (as I was a huge fan in the 3.x days), but I found that the software just wasn't keeping up with the releases from Paizo. HeroLab does much better about keeping up with it. I've been exporting my character sheets to PDF and bringing them to the table in my iPad, which also holds all my books and scenarios.
I'm very excited about the iPad version that is in beta right now, as it will perform in-game adjustments for you.
is this available somewhere? my google-fu is failing me. I have full/up to date hero lab so I'm super excited for the ability to track adjustments on the iPad
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I'm very excited about the iPad version that is in beta right now, as it will perform in-game adjustments for you.is this available somewhere? my google-fu is failing me. I have full/up to date hero lab so I'm super excited for the ability to track adjustments on the iPad
The iPad version of Hero Lab is currently in development. However, it is not yet in Beta. We showed off an early preview at GenCon, but that's it. Please stay tuned to our monthly newsletter and/or forums/twitter/facebook for announcements about Beta testing and actual release. :)
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I use hero lab as well, and as much as I like it, there are still bugs in it. You have to be very careful about using it. Some of the bugs I have personally reported include: it does not calculate eidolon hp correctly, in either regular form or if you take certain archtypes. It also assigns armor proficiencies to animal companions without them take the feats needed. Lone Wolf development does do a good job of keeping up with new material paizo publishes. Herolab can also be kind of expensive depending on how much you buy for it.
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I use and like Herolab, but it is pricey if you purchase everything. (I only purchase the major books and any specific items I happen to need). It does have some quirks, I recently learned that it defaults to not applying Furious Focus to the calculated power attack values to avoid confusion on attacks of opportunity. (Which isn't the way I would have done it because I make many more attacks that AoO).
I tried PCGen (as I was a huge fan in the 3.x days), but I found that the software just wasn't keeping up with the releases from Paizo. HeroLab does much better about keeping up with it.
Yea, Lone Wolf has a leg up on us in that they a) get early access to the books (AFAIK, correct me if I'm wrong Rob) and b) they can pay a data monkey to work on creating the datasets.
We're all just volunteers, and if you've seen this commercial it's JUST like that. :)
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I also use HeroLab. After recently being introduced to it I love it. It does have some quirks, but the only thing I really don't like is how it handles some of the output. There's no flurry of blows out put (and a 3rd party add-on only partially fixes this) and things like Power Attack and Combat Expertise are all or nothing (with no secondary output to display to default). Granted if you play with it open on a laptop you can just toggle during play, but I prefer a printed sheet.
Other than that small thing, it's great!
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I don't like the output for spontaneous casters.
The listing of spells known with basically nothing else going on is fairly awkward. The output already exists for daily use check boxes, adding one of those that says "First Level Sorcerer Spells" then another line for 2nd, ect would be really nice.
I would make a page of output for spellcasting. partition the page so things line up.
First level spells known: Magic missile, Obscuring mist - "boxes for used"
and for prepared casters
Magic missle Box Box
obscuring mist Box
Grease(save DC) Box
Also totally agree with the power attack thing, it would be nice in the program to make attacks under specific circumstances and have it output all of them, just like "common metamagic'd spells"
I have been printing out the half page statblock exports for common spell effects. Like Enlarged, and Polymorphed. I also printed those off for summoned monsters.
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I've tried both and I prefer PCGen because of its open source nature and its focus on Android (Herolab is planning to support iPad first) for mobile support, but its dependant on volunteers to help write new modules.
Generally I would recommend PCGen if you have more time than money.
I would recommend Hero Lab if you have more money than time.
Either way both apps have a bit of a learning curve, but they are completely worth the time and effort.
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I use hero lab as well, and as much as I like it, there are still bugs in it. You have to be very careful about using it. Some of the bugs I have personally reported include: it does not calculate eidolon hp correctly, in either regular form or if you take certain archtypes. It also assigns armor proficiencies to animal companions without them take the feats needed. Lone Wolf development does do a good job of keeping up with new material paizo publishes. Herolab can also be kind of expensive depending on how much you buy for it.
Granted, there are certainly bugs, and it definitely is a good idea to be careful. But that said, the quality of Hero Lab is phenomenal considering the sheer amount of material they support. I would be very surprised if any of the free offerings could come close to the amount of material in Hero Lab, and flabbergasted if they could do so with fewer errors.
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HeroLab...you get what you pay for. Very happy customer. Many of the issues described above can be fixed with custom .user files (e.g. Flurry of Blows). If you go to their forums you can find them or check d20pfsrd's download section for HeroLab.
What I don't get is why GMs won't let you play with it at the table. Wait, can they stop you from playing with it? As long as you have all the resources (PDFs/books), then it should be ok, right?
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Also a big fan of HeroLab. I particular like the ability to generate multiple versions of the character and try out different choices when building a new character or leveling up.
From a PFS perspective, the trickiest part for me is keeping track of my money. There's not currently a way to record "bought" and "sold" by journal entry to match it up with your chronicle sheets. I've been trying to add my bought and sold to the journal notes, but I have to actually do the bookkeeping externally. (Actually, I'd love to be able to tie all changes on a character to specific journal entries or "save points". That way, I could easily roll back two levels when the character dies and add them back in as I can afford the restorations...)
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That way, I could easily roll back two levels when the character dies and add them back in as I can afford the restorations
You never lose levels in Pathfinder (PFS or no). You gain a debuff called a negative level. It's basically -5 HP, -1 to all d20 rolls (and -1 CMD), and treated as one level lower for level-dependent variables. But your actual level (and number of hit dice!) never actually goes down.
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That way, I could easily roll back two levels when the character dies and add them back in as I can afford the restorationsYou never lose levels in Pathfinder (PFS or no). You gain a debuff called a negative level. It's basically -5 HP, -1 to all d20 rolls (and -1 CMD), and treated as one level lower for level-dependent variables. But your actual level (and number of hit dice!) never actually goes down.
I guess I was thinking of the level-dependent variables as "losing levels" instead of "temporary adjustment"...thanks for clearing that up.
(BTW, if you haven't checked out the "Adjust" tab yet in HeroLab, I highly recommend it.)
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I'll note that one of the areas that HeroLab is buggy is applying the archetype rules from APG72.
Could you be more specific in hohw it is buggy? I haven't had any issues on my PCs with archetypes in HeroLab, and I usually cross-check them with the Paizo documentation, to make sure I understand what is going on with them.
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I'll note that one of the areas that HeroLab is buggy is applying the archetype rules from APG72.Could you be more specific in hohw it is buggy? I haven't had any issues on my PCs with archetypes in HeroLab, and I usually cross-check them with the Paizo documentation, to make sure I understand what is going on with them.
It doesn't seem to enforce the rule that you can only take one archetype that changes or replaces a given class feature or ability.
For example, you can't take two archetypes that both modify the ranger's Hunter's Bond, but I believe the software will let you do that.
