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Hi,
I was reading through the Summoner description and on page 6 under the Evolution Pool section there is mention of a transmogriphy spell, though it does not appear in the spell list for the Summoner. Any details on this, as it appears that the spell would allow for a summoner to change the eidolon's evolutions more frequently than just at level boundaries.
Thanks.
/Paul
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Hi,
I was reading through the Summoner description and on page 6 under the Evolution Pool section there is mention of a transmogriphy spell, though it does not appear in the spell list for the Summoner. Any details on this, as it appears that the spell would allow for a summoner to change the eidolon's evolutions more frequently than just at level boundaries.
Thanks.
/Paul
+1
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Aaron Scott 139 |
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PaulK wrote:Any chance we could find out what level it's planned on being?
Thanks.
/Paul
Still working on it.. but tentatively.. it is around 3.
Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing
Without that spell I'm not sure we can completely test out the Eidolon to full affect. Will we get to see it soon to try it out?
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Jason Bulmahn wrote:Without that spell I'm not sure we can completely test out the Eidolon to full affect. Will we get to see it soon to try it out?PaulK wrote:Any chance we could find out what level it's planned on being?
Thanks.
/Paul
Still working on it.. but tentatively.. it is around 3.
Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing
There are a lot of spells that I would like to add to this class, and I may have time to polish them off before the playtest ends, but right now, I have bigger priorities.
Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing
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Given the prominence the spell is given in the text, and how it can significantly effect an Eidolon's performance, do you feel we can adequately play the Eidolons or is it not as powerful as I'm thinking it is?
Its not as powerful as you think it is and it is not really something that you would ever use in combat. The material component price will be significant.
Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing
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Aaron Scott 139 |
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Why do you absolutely NEED the spell... it's a playtest. If the Summoner is an NPC change the Eidolon as you see fit for each encounter. K.I.S.S. If it's a player let them blow a wad of cash if they want it changed... say 1,000gp (similar to Reincarnate).
--Vrocking around the Christmas Tree!
I'm not saying I absolutely need it, hence the question. The text to me read like it was possibly more significant then it was and I wanted to clarify the point. Thanks Jason for clearing that up.
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The material component cost should scale with level. it shouldn't be too prohibitively expensive, but it also shouldn't be something the player does every day or before every encounter. I mainly see it as a just in case spell for when you really need to tailor it for a specific Adventure or when you hit 20th level and are like "Damn... That last respec I did on my Eidolon made him totally suck. I wish I had the epic level handbook..."
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I'm loving it!
"But you said yesterday he was on a ship! I gave my beast gills and flippers and everything. Now you say he's in the Darklands?
<Sigh.> Right. I'll need 1500 in gold dust, two hamsters, some turtle wax and a feather. I don't know, any kind of feather!"
Made of Win!
--Vrocket Wrench sets make good guy gifts!
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I'm loving it!
"But you said yesterday he was on a ship! I gave my beast gills and flippers and everything. Now you say he's in the Darklands?
<Sigh.> Right. I'll need 1500 in gold dust, two hamsters, some turtle wax and a feather. I don't know, any kind of feather!"
Good idea to plan ahead and throw in two items to keep the rest of the party amused while the summoner is using the remainder for the spell, given the long casting time. ;)