
Caedwyr |
A few more cards.
Elemental Body III
Magic Missle
Modify Memory
Shadow Conjuration, Greater
Shadow Walk
Weird - Pablo Picasso

jorgecthulhu |

jorgecthulhu wrote:Welcome to the boards, Jorgecthulhu.Although I love what you've done with the spell cards, it's going to take an awful lot of ink when printed. Are you going to publish the cards in b/w with no backgroud art to save on printing costs (for us, I mean)!!
Kudos on your work!!!!
Thanks!!!

Caedwyr |
I can't load the "planar Ally" spell card. Has any one eles had problems with this one?
I was just able to view Planar Ally after clicking on the link, so it still works for me. Earlier imageshack seemed to be having some network issues, so you may have encountered that.
In the meantime, here are a few other cards:
Crushing Hand Slightly different layout and more complete text that includes the forceful hand spell relevant sections as well.
Flame Blade
Pyrotechnics - Falling Rockets by James Whistler
Weird - Picasso
Fabricate - The lacemaker by Jan Vermeer

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First off - Caedwyr well done these are very nice indeed.
Is the idea to print the jpg that you have linked to the forum or will there be a high resolution version available?
imho - the white background has detracted a little from the card. Whilst now more readable, the beautiful artwork is obscured. Maybe try a san serif font?

Caedwyr |
First off - Caedwyr well done these are very nice indeed.
Is the idea to print the jpg that you have linked to the forum or will there be a high resolution version available?
imho - the white background has detracted a little from the card. Whilst now more readable, the beautiful artwork is obscured. Maybe try a san serif font?
Higher resolution images will be provided in .pdf form, and I will possibly try to find some place to host the .psd files as well.

Caedwyr |
I'd like some opinions on which spell text/card is preferred.
Form of the Dragon II - 8pt Times New Roman font, 3pt 50% transparency white shadow
Form of the Dragon II (Alt1) - 8pt Times New Roman font, 1pt 50% transparency white shadow
Form of the Dragon II (Alt2) - 8pt Times New Roman font
Form of the Dragon II (Alt7) - 8pt Times New Roman font, 1pt 75% transparency white shadow
Form of the Dragon II (Alt3) - 7.5pt Arial font, 3pt 50% transparency white shadow
Form of the Dragon II (Alt4) - 7.5pt Arial font, 1pt 50% transparency white shadow
Form of the Dragon II (Alt5) - 7.5pt Arial font
Form of the Dragon II (Alt6) - 7.5pt Arial font, 1pt 75% transparency white shadow
Remember, what is important is how these look when printed, not so much how they look on the computer screen.

Caedwyr |
I actually chose Form of the Dragon II as it was one of the darker card backgrounds
Here are a couple other cards
Deep Slumber (Alt1) - 8pt Times New Roman font, 1pt 75% white transparency
Deep Slumber (Alt2) - 8pt Times New Roman font
Pyrotechnics (Alt1) - 8pt Times New Roman font, 1pt 75% white transparency
Pyrotechnics (Alt2) - 8pt Times New Roman font

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Hate to put demands on your very, very awesome work here, but could you please, pretty please, focus on first lvl spells first?
I know that it's difficult to find the right artwork, and that you're doing this for free, and I love you, man, but I'd love to show up with spell cards for my new lvl 1 cleric next monday.

Caedwyr |
Hate to put demands on your very, very awesome work here, but could you please, pretty please, focus on first lvl spells first?
I know that it's difficult to find the right artwork, and that you're doing this for free, and I love you, man, but I'd love to show up with spell cards for my new lvl 1 cleric next monday.
I'd love to be able to have the cards ready for you, but since I've been mostly just obtaining large groups of public domain/CC/GNU artwork that I can use without licensing issues and then going through the artwork and assigning them to appropriate spells I may not be able to find appropriate artwork for all the level 0 and level 1 cleric spells by next Monday. I'll try, but chances are I won't get them all done by then.
Cards finished since my last post are listed below:
Bleed
Breath of Life
Maze
Overland Flight
Spell Turning
Giant Vermin

Northman |

Greetings all!
Great work you're doing here. I would also eventually be interested in the photoshop files - or even be able to help out (I'd have to see how my workload becomes this week before I promise anything, but I like to do stuff like finding art and playing around with photoshop, etc).
I agree to several of the points that's been mentioned. There is a readability issue and also an issue related to card sizes. I also have a design issue, or perhaps more of a suggestion, when it comes to the border around the text.
So, first off there's the text. With background images I agree that the plain black text is hard to read, so I like the various types of shading you have done with these later cards. However, I'm not really sure either of the alternatives is what I would've tested (at least not once being presented those alternatives).
The 3pt shadow looks too big. It's fairly easy to read, so no problem there. but I think it makes the text look mushed together. The 1pt (50%) on the other hand doesn't enhance the text enough. But the 75% opacity looks ok (and of the choices given, I'd prefer this), but it makes the text look rather sharp. So, I would like to propose a 66% opacity on either 1pt or 2pt (50% might look ok with 2pt, as well).
For the absolutely reader-friendly version someone's expressed interest in (normally I'd be polite and quote you guys, but having just read through some 100+ posts it's been hard to follow what's been said by who and such). I'd suggest simply having the spell school's color fill the whole card's background (ie. where the picture would've been), and keep the white layer that brightens the background/picture (possibly increasing its opacity). Or, going even further, simply a white text-background (as I believe has been suggested). Those cards would also serve as the B/W alternatives (saving a little ink without those pictures.
As for card sizes I agree to that the big cards looks cool, but also that it would overall be better to have only one card size. On the other hand, the spells with long descriptions are often spells you don't always use in combat (though I noticed that so far most of the large spell-cards are...). But it's a question about what's more practical than not. I do agree that it would look best to keep the text on only one side, but I think the backside should be spell-specific. It should have a standard background (like, say drawn/painted wooden floor-planks or chainmail links or dragonscales etc) and hold the spell's short information (as presented early in the spell chapter). This would include name, short effect description and possibly school and level as well. That way a player could at a glance see if that or this level could be apropriate for the situation (despite the fact that, yes, you would already know what the spell does since you had it prepared in the first place).
I also mentioned the borders around the text-box on the cards (and by that also the background for the level) earlier. These have the same bright blue/silver color on every card. May I suggest that it should instead have a bright version of the spell school's color instead? Doing so wouldn't take away the overall consistency you get by having it in one color for all cards; it would simply add a different form of consistency. To exemplify: Pyrotechnics (A transmutation spell using blue) looks better than Deep Slumber (an enchantment spell using green) in that respect. (That is, save for the fact that Deep Slumber has art with a lot of blue in it and Pyrotechnics with lot of green in it, but that's beside my point).
Well, I think that was my two cents (and they seemed to last pretty long as well!). I'll drop you a note when/if I have some time to spare and I'll give you a hand.
(Speaking of which, I got the impression from an earlier post that you were looking into possibly making cards for class abilities as well?)

Caedwyr |
Can someone remind me why the index card size entered the design for these? I understand needing more room, but how are folks planning on using these?
I would think having them all "card size" would suffice, so can someone help me understand what the set might look like with different sizes?
Here is animate dead at playing card size: Animate Dead
On the computer whenever I use a small size card it ends up appearing illegible. As I've mentioned before I'd like to be able to use smaller cards, but so far it appears they aren't very usable at smaller sizes. After experimenting with some printed copies it may be that smaller sized cards are usable.

kyrt-ryder |
Hey Caedwyr, great work, these look amazing. But I was wondering, are you working on setting up/prepping the site to host these at?
As beautiful as they are, it's really hard trying to print them when their scatterred a few here and a few there over 3 pages of posts ya know.
Just wondering is all, no rush man. Your doing amazing work.

Caedwyr |
Hey Caedwyr, great work, these look amazing. But I was wondering, are you working on setting up/prepping the site to host these at?
As beautiful as they are, it's really hard trying to print them when their scatterred a few here and a few there over 3 pages of posts ya know.
Just wondering is all, no rush man. Your doing amazing work.
The cards I'm posting here are not the final versions. My plan is to release a .pdf file for the different class spell lists along with an alphabetical organized list for all the spells that is formatted correctly for printing with slightly higher quality card images. I've just been posting the cards as I finish them as several people have expressed interest in me doing so, to let people know that work is still progressing, and to get feedback. There have been a number of changes made to the card layouts/formatting while this thread has existed and not all of the latest changes have been posted for all cards.